Cont: The Trials of Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito: Part 32

[TruthCalls]

The bra clasp - a key item - was just ONE of 500 exhibits that made up the evidence against the duo. Sollecito's father paid a top forensic scientist to witness Stefanoni's testing and he passed on no complaint or concern about the methodology of the testing or collecting whatsoever.

The bra clasp was the only thing tying Raffaele to the crime. Your ONE of 500 comment is complete BS and you know it.

NO defense witness was present when the clasp was collected, but thankfully the SP were kind enough to film it for us so we could all see they failed to follow even basic procedures to minimize the risk of contamination. No one said there was a problem with the testing, though she did lie about the additional alleles indicating at least two additional male profiles. But the testing wasn't the problem, the collection was.

Now, are you going to address the list of eight things they did wrong. Are you ever going to admit they screwed up. Vegas sets the odds insanely low, but I can ask.

 

[Vixen]

Blood is an excellent source of DNA, yet 28 of 31 samples did NOT contain Meredith's blood. I dare you to find one credible forensic expert who would claim it's possible to track someone's blood to three different physical locations, leaving 31 samples, and 28 of them will have no detectable DNA. It's not possible.

Sure, if I swab some likely locations and find no DNA, that doesn't mean the suspect wasn't there. But that's not what we're talking about. You want to claim Luminol was reacting to Meredith's blood. So it's an absence of DNA in a sample you claim is blood. THAT is a very different discussion.

He wasn't hopping, he only had wet blood on the sole of one shoe.

He did.

Yeah, and they had plenty of evidence of Guede, who like Kohberger, was sloppy enough to leave enough evidence behind to get caught.

Look. If there was a clean up, as reasonably hypothesised by the forensic experts, then it explains the reason the luminol was caused to light up during the chemiluminescence. To recap:

Luminol chemiluminescence can also be triggered by a number of substances such as copper or copper-containing chemical compounds,[13] and certain bleaches; and, as a result, if a crime scene is thoroughly cleaned with a bleach solution, residual cleaner will cause the entire crime scene to produce the typical blue glow, effectively camouflaging any organic evidence, such as blood.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luminol

You claim there was no clean up, but that can only be conjecture as luminol can only detect a bleach clean-up reaction to luminol within eight hours of the clean up. Kercher's body was not found for at least fourteen hours (give or take an hour), so there is no way of ruling this out conclusively. The police carried out the luminol testing 18 Dec 2007. The footsteps would only be smeared/swirled if still wet or damp. Blood dries notoriously quickly, due to its clotting agents. A dried footstep in blood might be bleached over (assuming it's sodium hypochlorite*) and be invisible to the naked eye, but luminol will pick up the ferric elements within the haemoglobin causing it to glow and this chemoluminescence can be photographed. *However we know ACE bleach is an oxygen-based bleach, which would obliterate the blood all together. This is the bleach police discovered at Sollecito's abode. This would explain the unexpected one-sided set of footprints, as though someone had hopped along on one foot and the lack of any footprints leading up to the bloody footprint on the bath mat. Police entering Sollecito's apartment reported a strong smell of bleach. Under his sink they found large bottles of ACE.
ACE Bleach ingredients:

Ingredients

5-15% Oxygen-Based Bleaching Agents,
<5% Anionic Surfactants, Non-Ionic Surfactants, Phosphonates,
Perfumes,
Benzyl Salicylate,
Butylphenyl Methylpropional,
Hexyl Cinnamal
Manufacturer

Fater S.P.A.,
Via A. Volta, 10,
65129 Pescara.
(Italia).

http://www.sainsburys.co.uk/shop/gb/groceries/ace-laundry-bleach--colour-safe-1l

Oxygenation of blood eliminates the iron-based haemoglobin, or, rather its ferric element because of the chemical reaction.

1: The bleach ruptures any red blood cells that haven't been ruptured already. The membranes are saponified immediately and spill their hemoglobin everywhere.

2: The hemoglobin denatures and hydrolyses into free amino acids. These free amino acids are chlorinated, or just wash off. Either way, they wash away.

3: The chlorine in the bleach turns the disembodied iron from the hemoglobin into iron chloride, which washes off. QUORA

So, back to your question as to why 28 of the 31 luminol samples do not contain Mez' DNA. The answer is: oxygen-based bleach also destroys DNA.

Among various chemicals used for the treatment of samples, bleach has the most adverse effect on the DNA, as it tends to degrade the DNA more rapidly as compared to the others being the strong oxidizing agent (Passi et al.,2012 ,Harris et al.

A deliberate attempt to remove biological material (using a variety of cleaning agents) is a problem faced by forensic scientists routinely. The substrates on which the blood is supported can also have an inhibitory role. This study aimed to investigate the potential contribution that these factors have on DNA analysis. In addition, time between deposition and collection of trace evidence was also considered. Blood samples were applied to a number of different substrates. After drying, the stains were cleaned with chlorinated bleach, soap or disinfectant until no visible trace remained. Researchgate

Chlorine-based bleach:

sodium hypochlorite

Household/commercial bleach (6% NaOCl, sodium hypochlorite) degrades DNA through oxidative damage, production of chlorinated base products, and cleavage of DNA strands (breaking it into smaller and smaller fragments). digital commons/ https://digitalcommons.newhaven.edu/honorstheses/29/#:~:text=Household/commercial bleach (6%,into smaller and smaller fragments).

So, Q.E.D :: as to why DNA was not found as expected in presumed blood at the cottage, yet a test for blood was positive at Guede's apartment (Guede didn't clean up with bleach!). Police suspected Sollecito searched the term 'bleach' on his computer. At least, this was an early story. Bear in mind, his apartment was cleaned by a cleaning lady and she only used disinfectant-type cleaner, as instructed by Dr. Sollecito, RS' father.

A1 Overview:

Yes, Ace bleach products, such as Ace For Whites and Ace Classic Bleach, contain sodium hypochlorite. This ingredient is a key component for its bleaching and disinfecting properties. While Ace also utilizes other ingredients like hydrogen peroxide and soil suspension polymers, sodium hypochlorite is a primary active ingredient in many of their bleach products.

 

[AmyStrange]

What a load of crap.


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[Numbers]

But the prosecution did show Stefanoni's methods were sound. Nencini did curl his lip at the defence's pathetic case and upheld the murder convictions as absolutely soundly established, in particular via the DNA results. The defence DNA expert, Gino, was so inept, she claimed at Guede's hearing that Mez had been stabbed 33 times. _DOH!

1. Stating something without proof is "conclusory": consisting of or relating to a conclusion or assertion for which no supporting evidence is given.

Your statement claiming that the prosecution showed that "Stefanoni's methods were sound" lacks all credibility because you offer no evidence, and the prosecution "showing", if it is in the record' is contradicted by the contradictions and lapses in Stefanoni's lab records and methods as recorded by police videos and testimony.

2. Nencini's facial tics are not relevant, but the lengthy MR from the Nencini Court of Appeal was full of nonsensical statements: for example, that the DNA evidence of Knox and Sollecito in Kercher's room had been selectively removed by them and that the contamination on Kercher's bra clasp was from her girl friends touching them or wearing the bra - nonsensical because the contamination was from male DNA (male DNA has a distinct locus detectable in STR DNA profiling - see, for example, https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5418305/).

 

[Welshman]

Look. If there was a clean up, as reasonably hypothesised by the forensic experts, then it explains the reason the luminol was caused to light up during the chemiluminescence. To recap:



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luminol

You claim there was no clean up, but that can only be conjecture as luminol can only detect a bleach clean-up reaction to luminol within eight hours of the clean up. Kercher's body was not found for at least fourteen hours (give or take an hour), so there is no way of ruling this out conclusively. The police carried out the luminol testing 18 Dec 2007. The footsteps would only be smeared/swirled if still wet or damp. Blood dries notoriously quickly, due to its clotting agents. A dried footstep in blood might be bleached over (assuming it's sodium hypochlorite*) and be invisible to the naked eye, but luminol will pick up the ferric elements within the haemoglobin causing it to glow and this chemoluminescence can be photographed. *However we know ACE bleach is an oxygen-based bleach, which would obliterate the blood all together. This is the bleach police discovered at Sollecito's abode. This would explain the unexpected one-sided set of footprints, as though someone had hopped along on one foot and the lack of any footprints leading up to the bloody footprint on the bath mat. Police entering Sollecito's apartment reported a strong smell of bleach. Under his sink they found large bottles of ACE.
ACE Bleach ingredients:

Ingredients

5-15% Oxygen-Based Bleaching Agents,
<5% Anionic Surfactants, Non-Ionic Surfactants, Phosphonates,
Perfumes,
Benzyl Salicylate,
Butylphenyl Methylpropional,
Hexyl Cinnamal
Manufacturer

Fater S.P.A.,
Via A. Volta, 10,
65129 Pescara.
(Italia).

http://www.sainsburys.co.uk/shop/gb/groceries/ace-laundry-bleach--colour-safe-1l

Oxygenation of blood eliminates the iron-based haemoglobin, or, rather its ferric element because of the chemical reaction.

1: The bleach ruptures any red blood cells that haven't been ruptured already. The membranes are saponified immediately and spill their hemoglobin everywhere.

2: The hemoglobin denatures and hydrolyses into free amino acids. These free amino acids are chlorinated, or just wash off. Either way, they wash away.

3: The chlorine in the bleach turns the disembodied iron from the hemoglobin into iron chloride, which washes off. QUORA

So, back to your question as to why 28 of the 31 luminol samples do not contain Mez' DNA. The answer is: oxygen-based bleach also destroys DNA.




Chlorine-based bleach:



So, Q.E.D :: as to why DNA was not found as expected in presumed blood at the cottage, yet a test for blood was positive at Guede's apartment (Guede didn't clean up with bleach!). Police suspected Sollecito searched the term 'bleach' on his computer. At least, this was an early story. Bear in mind, his apartment was cleaned by a cleaning lady and she only used disinfectant-type cleaner, as instructed by Dr. Sollecito, RS' father.

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Vixen for some reason ignores the negative TMB result.

 

[AmyStrange]

Vixen for some reason ignores the negative TMB result.

He's an egoist. and they very rarely ever admit when they're wrong.

Some will even go so far as to make stupid statements that are not based on facts.


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[SpitfireIX]

Alketbi was seen with a US$500,000 Lamborghini. Explain that away.

What's your evidence for this? And even if he was, what do you think it proves? Exactly how big is this conspiracy of yours to subvert forensic science for the benefit of Amanda and Raffaele?

 

[TruthCalls]

Look. If there was a clean up, as reasonably hypothesised by the forensic experts

No, it's not reasonably hypothesized as there is zero evidence to support such a conclusion. I'm fine with someone having a theory - everyone has one - but you then need to show the evidence or it never becomes anything more than an unsubstantiated theory, otherwise known as useless.

, then it explains the reason the luminol was caused to light up during the chemiluminescence. To recap:



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luminol

You claim there was no clean up, but that can only be conjecture as luminol can only detect a bleach clean-up reaction to luminol within eight hours of the clean up. Kercher's body was not found for at least fourteen hours (give or take an hour), so there is no way of ruling this out conclusively. The police carried out the luminol testing 18 Dec 2007. The footsteps would only be smeared/swirled if still wet or damp. Blood dries notoriously quickly, due to its clotting agents.

I can't tell if you're actually this uninformed or if this is deliberate. Let's be clear... if you mop an area that contains blood, and you do not remove 100% of it, what will remain is a faint trace of blood, not visible to the naked eye, that is in the pattern of the mopping. When Luminol is applied, the streaks and swirl marks created by the cleaning light up. It's really very easy to do a search for examples of Luminol highlighting crime scenes that were cleaned. But you don't even need to see that, common sense would tell you that's what will remain.

But let me ask another question... where/what was cleaned up? We know there are bloody prints down the full length of the hall, so no cleaning there. There are Luminol revealed prints in Amanda's room, so no cleaning there. The bathroom had multiple diluted blood drops, a drop of Amanda's blood on the faucet, a bloody footprint on the mat, and blood smears on the door, so no cleaning there. So where the hell did they clean, and if they cleaned, why was 99.4% of the cottage not clean?

A dried footstep in blood might be bleached over (assuming it's sodium hypochlorite*) and be invisible to the naked eye, but luminol will pick up the ferric elements within the haemoglobin causing it to glow and this chemoluminescence can be photographed. *However we know ACE bleach is an oxygen-based bleach, which would obliterate the blood all together. This is the bleach police discovered at Sollecito's abode. This would explain the unexpected one-sided set of footprints, as though someone had hopped along on one foot

Having wet blood on only one sole also explains this... duh!

Oh, wait... so you think she cleaned Guede's right shoe prints only, leaving his left shoe prints intact?

and the lack of any footprints leading up to the bloody footprint on the bath mat.

Walking to the bathroom with shoes on which had no blood on the soles, removing one shoe/sock, and rinsing blood of his pants leg before stepping lightly on the mat to maintain balance as he put his sock/shoe back on also explains this.

Police entering Sollecito's apartment reported a strong smell of bleach.

They entered his house after he was already arrested. Further, the house had been cleaned by his house cleaner the day before and she used Lysoform, which does not smell like bleach. So please explain WHO used bleach, and why did it still smell like bleach more than a day after Raffaele was last in the apartment. And while you're at it, perhaps you could advise WHAT they were cleaning with bleach 4 days after the murder.

Under his sink they found large bottles of ACE.
ACE Bleach ingredients:

Ingredients

5-15% Oxygen-Based Bleaching Agents,
<5% Anionic Surfactants, Non-Ionic Surfactants, Phosphonates,
Perfumes,
Benzyl Salicylate,
Butylphenyl Methylpropional,
Hexyl Cinnamal
Manufacturer

Fater S.P.A.,
Via A. Volta, 10,
65129 Pescara.
(Italia).

http://www.sainsburys.co.uk/shop/gb/groceries/ace-laundry-bleach--colour-safe-1l

Oxygenation of blood eliminates the iron-based haemoglobin, or, rather its ferric element because of the chemical reaction.

1: The bleach ruptures any red blood cells that haven't been ruptured already. The membranes are saponified immediately and spill their hemoglobin everywhere.

2: The hemoglobin denatures and hydrolyses into free amino acids. These free amino acids are chlorinated, or just wash off. Either way, they wash away.

3: The chlorine in the bleach turns the disembodied iron from the hemoglobin into iron chloride, which washes off. QUORA

So, back to your question as to why 28 of the 31 luminol samples do not contain Mez' DNA. The answer is: oxygen-based bleach also destroys DNA.

So why then are there 11 samples which did contain DNA (but only three of which contained Meredith's)?

Chlorine-based bleach:



So, Q.E.D :: as to why DNA was not found as expected in presumed blood at the cottage, yet a test for blood was positive at Guede's apartment (Guede didn't clean up with bleach!).

There were a total of six Luminol revealed samples from Guede's apartment. One tested positive, the other five tested negative. Oops! Now what?

Police suspected Sollecito searched the term 'bleach' on his computer. At least, this was an early story.

Who cares what they suspected. There was no search for bleach made so what's the point of claiming this?

Bear in mind, his apartment was cleaned by a cleaning lady and she only used disinfectant-type cleaner, as instructed by Dr. Sollecito, RS' father.

Yep, we know that. What's the point? The bleach found under the sink was proven to be very old.

 

[AmyStrange]

Yep, we know that. What's the point? The bleach found under the sink was proven to be very old.

I have bleach under my sink, so does that mean I'm a murderer too?

There must be millions (if not billions) of people who do the same, so does that mean they're all murderers?

Such rubbish is why I believe many (if not all) egoists are as stupid as the maga weirdoes.


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[Stacyhs]

Alketbi was seen with a US$500,000 Lamborghini. Explain that away.

Hahahaha. So a wealthy Emirati is seen driving a Lamborghini? Stop the presses!

 

[TruthCalls]

.....

You claim there was no clean up, but that can only be conjecture as luminol can only detect a bleach clean-up reaction to luminol within eight hours of the clean up. Kercher's body was not found for at least fourteen hours (give or take an hour), so there is no way of ruling this out conclusively. The police carried out the luminol testing 18 Dec 2007. The footsteps would only be smeared/swirled if still wet or damp. Blood dries notoriously quickly, due to its clotting agents. A dried footstep in blood might be bleached over (assuming it's sodium hypochlorite*) and be invisible to the naked eye, but luminol will pick up the ferric elements within the haemoglobin causing it to glow and this chemoluminescence can be photographed. *However we know ACE bleach is an oxygen-based bleach, which would obliterate the blood all together. This is the bleach police discovered at Sollecito's abode. This would explain the unexpected one-sided set of footprints, as though someone had hopped along on one foot and the lack of any footprints leading up to the bloody footprint on the bath mat. Police entering Sollecito's apartment reported a strong smell of bleach. Under his sink they found large bottles of ACE.
ACE Bleach ingredients:

I failed to address this earlier, but it has to be pointed out.

When you mop blood, even dried blood, the blood rehydrates and gets smeared around. It will also get on the fibers of the mop, which further spreads things around. If sufficient bleach is used, all traces can be removed. In that case, Luminol will not light. So if there is enough for Luminol to react to, then it will show up in the streaks and swirls that were created as the blood was being mopped.

I can't believe you don't understand this. What did Bill used to say... wow, just wow!

 

[SpitfireIX]

Hahahaha. So a wealthy Emirati is seen driving a Lamborghini? Stop the presses!

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I'm still waiting for proof this even happened.

 

[Numbers]

Alketbi was seen with a US$500,000 Lamborghini. Explain that away.

Some of Salem Alketbi's 32 publications"

The role of DNA in forensic science: A comprehensive review
Authors
Salem K Alketbi

https://clok.uclan.ac.uk/id/eprint/46154/1/Analysis%20of%20Touch%20DNA%20-%20Corrected%20Version.pdf

Maintaining the chain of custody: Anti-contamination measures for trace DNA evidence

 

[Numbers]

Alketbi was seen with a US$500,000 Lamborghini. Explain that away.

Seen by whom? Your statement, unsupported by evidence, is entirely lacking in credibility. The relevance to the topic is also lacking; you are implying that any wealth someone has must originate from some improper source, a false implication or assertion. It should be pointed out that the UAE and the city of Dubai are well-known for their robust and wealthy economy.* However, Dr. Salem K Alketbi of the University of Central Lancashire and Department of Forensic Science and Criminology, Dubai Police is a DNA and forensic science research scientist with 32 publications (including his Ph.D. thesis - doctoral dissertation).** Most of his publications are on the topic of touch DNA, but also include the prevention of DNA contamination in DNA profile testing.

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubai

** https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=t0L3duAAAAAJ&hl=en

 

[Bill Williams]

I failed to address this earlier, but it has to be pointed out.

When you mop blood, even dried blood, the blood rehydrates and gets smeared around. It will also get on the fibers of the mop, which further spreads things around. If sufficient bleach is used, all traces can be removed. In that case, Luminol will not light. So if there is enough for Luminol to react to, then it will show up in the streaks and swirls that were created as the blood was being mopped.

I can't believe you don't understand this. What did Bill used to say... wow, just wow!

Wow. Just wow.

(For the record, I stole the expression, so don't send any trademark payments....)

 

[Myriad]

"Seen with a $500,000 Lamborghini..."

Stuck behind it in traffic?
Crossed a street in front of it at an intersection?
Renting it?
Giving it a parking ticket?
Buffing it dry at a car wash?
Taking a close look at it at a car show?

I was seen with a $30 million Monet masterpiece a few years ago. That must mean I'm a world-class art thief, right?

 

[Numbers]

I failed to address this earlier, but it has to be pointed out.

When you mop blood, even dried blood, the blood rehydrates and gets smeared around. It will also get on the fibers of the mop, which further spreads things around. If sufficient bleach is used, all traces can be removed. In that case, Luminol will not light. So if there is enough for Luminol to react to, then it will show up in the streaks and swirls that were created as the blood was being mopped.

I can't believe you don't understand this. What did Bill used to say... wow, just wow!

That there was no clean-up was proven by there being no swirl marks revealed by the luminol presumptive blood test.

As pointed out by others in earlier posts, not all the luminol hits were blood, since they were negative to TMB (tetramethylbenzidine), another presumptive test for blood.

 

[Vixen]

Seen by whom? Your statement, unsupported by evidence, is entirely lacking in credibility. The relevance to the topic is also lacking; you are implying that any wealth someone has must originate from some improper source, a false implication or assertion. It should be pointed out that the UAE and the city of Dubai are well-known for their robust and wealthy economy.* However, Dr. Salem K Alketbi of the University of Central Lancashire and Department of Forensic Science and Criminology, Dubai Police is a DNA and forensic science research scientist with 32 publications (including his Ph.D. thesis - doctoral dissertation).** Most of his publications are on the topic of touch DNA, but also include the prevention of DNA contamination in DNA profile testing.

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubai

** https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=t0L3duAAAAAJ&hl=en

Calm down. It was an attempt at humour. <fx gets coat, slinks out>

 

[Mojo]

Calm down. It was an attempt at humour. <fx gets coat, slinks out>

You don't need effects for that, the actor could just do it.

 

[Vixen]

No, it's not reasonably hypothesized as there is zero evidence to support such a conclusion. I'm fine with someone having a theory - everyone has one - but you then need to show the evidence or it never becomes anything more than an unsubstantiated theory, otherwise known as useless.

I can't tell if you're actually this uninformed or if this is deliberate. Let's be clear... if you mop an area that contains blood, and you do not remove 100% of it, what will remain is a faint trace of blood, not visible to the naked eye, that is in the pattern of the mopping. When Luminol is applied, the streaks and swirl marks created by the cleaning light up. It's really very easy to do a search for examples of Luminol highlighting crime scenes that were cleaned. But you don't even need to see that, common sense would tell you that's what will remain.

But let me ask another question... where/what was cleaned up? We know there are bloody prints down the full length of the hall, so no cleaning there. There are Luminol revealed prints in Amanda's room, so no cleaning there. The bathroom had multiple diluted blood drops, a drop of Amanda's blood on the faucet, a bloody footprint on the mat, and blood smears on the door, so no cleaning there. So where the hell did they clean, and if they cleaned, why was 99.4% of the cottage not clean?

Having wet blood on only one sole also explains this... duh!

Oh, wait... so you think she cleaned Guede's right shoe prints only, leaving his left shoe prints intact?

Walking to the bathroom with shoes on which had no blood on the soles, removing one shoe/sock, and rinsing blood of his pants leg before stepping lightly on the mat to maintain balance as he put his sock/shoe back on also explains this.

They entered his house after he was already arrested. Further, the house had been cleaned by his house cleaner the day before and she used Lysoform, which does not smell like bleach. So please explain WHO used bleach, and why did it still smell like bleach more than a day after Raffaele was last in the apartment. And while you're at it, perhaps you could advise WHAT they were cleaning with bleach 4 days after the murder.

So why then are there 11 samples which did contain DNA (but only three of which contained Meredith's)?

There were a total of six Luminol revealed samples from Guede's apartment. One tested positive, the other five tested negative. Oops! Now what?

Who cares what they suspected. There was no search for bleach made so what's the point of claiming this?

Yep, we know that. What's the point? The bleach found under the sink was proven to be very old.

I did try to explain that luminol is set up to identify iron in the form Fe2. When bleach is applied to the haemoglobin in red blood cells, which is of the form Fe2, the reaction with the oxygenisation agent in household bleach, such as ACE, turns the Fe2 into Fe3 and can even break down the hema rings completely. The luminol caused various areas of the cottage to light up under chemiluminescence. This not only happens for iron in the form Fe2 but also when bleach has been applied to a crime scene. Here is what Stefanoni testified at the Massei court:

Referring to the traces revealed by Luminol, Dr. Stefanoni testified that these traces were absolutely invisible to the naked eye and [were] meagre/scanty/slight (page 60 of the minutes of the preliminary hearing). Such a test, it was shown, is performed in order to check for the presence of traces of blood, since this substance - Luminol - reveals blood by fluorescence. It also, however, reveals other substances, as Dr. Sarah Gino, in particular, had emphasised, according to what has already been stated (rust, fruit juice, bleach, various vegetables [vegetable matter] and some enamels used for tiles). Moreover, the circumstance under which DNA is found necessarily indicates the presence of biological material in the trace revealed by Luminol.

The traces revealed by Luminol are those labelled 176 to 184 (traces already indicated by the letter L, numbered 1 to 9).

Accordingly, Dr. Stefanoni stated that traces 176 and 177 (L1 and L2) found in the room of Filomena Romanelli had yielded, respectively, the following results: a specimen from Meredith and a mixed specimen from Meredith and Amanda; the traces 178, 179, 180 (L3, L4, L5) all found in Amanda's room had shown Amanda's biological profile; trace 184 (L9), found in the corridor, almost in front of the wall separating Amanda's and Meredith's rooms, had shown a mixed genetic profile attributable to both Meredith and Amanda.

What forensic technicians Boemia and Rinaldi ascertained re the footprint on the bathmat:

With regard to the point of departure of the investigation, the fundamental parameter which, according to technicians Rinaldi and Boemia, distinguishes Sollecito’s right foot from Guede’s, is determined by the width of the big toe and the shape of the metatarsus, to which are added further differences found in the plantar arch, in the f the heel, in the left-side outline of the foot (in table 29, for example, it is shown that, once the left-hand outline of the print on the mat has been traced, when this outline is overlaid on those of the sole-prints of Guede and of Sollecito respectively, an outcome is obtained in which, for Guede’s foot, the left-hand outline drawn overlaps one part of the phalanges of the big toe; in the case of Raffaele Sollecito, on the contrary, this does not occur, and in fact the outlines of the two prints match perfectly) and finally, with regard to the measurement of the bumps (12mm Guede; 8mm Sollecito), as demonstrated by tables 27 and 28 of the report.

The above-mentioned differences led the technicians to conclude that there was compatibility of imprint “A” on the mat with regard to the general characteristics of shape and size with Raffaele Sollecito’s right foot, and this outcome allowed them to express of an opinion of probable identity; at the same time they arrived at a finding of non[366] compatibility of print ‚A‛ with Rudy Hermann Guede’s right foot (page 44 transcripts).

Re the luminol observations:

The presence of the traces revealed by Luminol, whose presence in several points in various rooms of the house [306] cannot be explained by reference to fruit juice, bleach, various vegetables, rust, etc., appear, on the contrary, to be explained if one holds that the Luminol gave off fluorescence because of the presence of blood. In this regard, one cannot simply disregard the fact of the bloodstains that were undeniably abundantly present in Meredith's room, from which easily, or indeed inevitably, they must have been exported to other parts of the house by anyone who, coming out of Meredith's room, went into these other parts. This was seen for the footwear belonging to Rudy Guede which marked their owner’s footsteps along the corridor towards the exit from the house; it was seen for the traces found in the bathroom; it should be considered that also happened for the traces found in Romanelli's room, in Knox's room, in the corridor, and it should be pointed out that two of these traces give a mixed biological profile of Amanda and Meredith, and the others the biological profile of Amanda alone. She, it must therefore be held, with her bare feet washed of Meredith’s blood, but on the soles of which some residue of blood must have remained, went into her own room, into Romanelli's room and passed through the corridor, and in several points in the room where she had passed, she left the traces which were discovered.

Re Amanda Knox: Massei's concluding comments:

Even the traces highlighted by Luminol therefore show the existence of evidence against Amanda, making [the Court] consider that she, having been barefoot in the room where Meredith was killed and having thus stained her feet, had left the traces highlighted by Luminol (which could have resisted the subsequent action of cleaning, on which more will follow) and found in the various parts of the house which she went to for the reasons shown above (her own room, the corridor, Romanelli’s room).

Sollecito admitted to police he had major 'flooding' in his apartment, when initially, he claimed it was a minor leak (first police statement). He also claimed the u-bend under his sink somehow fell off of its own accord. More likely he dismantled it to remove the accumulated debris from his cleaning up operation. Police found a bucket of used latex gloves in his apartment. As well as there being a strong smell of bleach when they arrived. In addition, Sollecito's father made a sworn statement to the police that his son told him per telephone conversation at 8:40pm that they had had dinner and washed up by then. (The time of his conversation.) Knox put back the time of the meal (in which she wrote Sollecito had blood on his hand ['from fish'] to after 10:00 or 11:00 when there was a spontaneous flooding of the apartment. Next morning she claims she went to fetch the mop from the cottage to mop up water on Sollecito's floor. Massei leaned over and said, WAIT! Didn't RS get a delivery of a daily newspaper? Why not just put down the newspaper?! So yes, massive clean up with attempts to conceal its magnitude, time and reason for its occurrence. All on the night Mez was murdered.