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Funny how sometimes race suddenly matters and sometimes it doesn't!
Cuomo defeated in NYC Democratic Mayoral Primary
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Hercules56
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African-American is synonymous with black. If you claim to be black for admissions purposes and are not you're committing fraud and it's very wrong.
People of Indian and Pakistani descent, are not African-American and are not black.
Just as Elon Musk is not black even though he was born in Africa. Just like Mamdani.
Only people of black African ancestry have any business claiming to be black or African for admissions purposes when applying for college, scholarships, etc.
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EHocking
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Skin colour seems to be very important to you.
EHocking
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If Republicans support phrenology, I’m sure we’ll also see it here.
I have to assume the obtusness is deliberate.
1. The question is mostly for tracking demographics.
2. In the united states, black and African American are generally synonymous with African American descendants of slaves.
3. The US owes a specific debt to AADOS.
4. Some programs are meant to address that debt.
It's remarkably odd to think that answering a question about race and ethnicity with I am black or African American makes sense if you are not AADOS.
It's remarkably ignorant to think that question isn't intended to determine if you ar an African American descendant of slaves.
1. The question is mostly for tracking demographics.
2. In the united states, black and African American are generally synonymous with African American descendants of slaves.
3. The US owes a specific debt to AADOS.
4. Some programs are meant to address that debt.
It's remarkably odd to think that answering a question about race and ethnicity with I am black or African American makes sense if you are not AADOS.
It's remarkably ignorant to think that question isn't intended to determine if you ar an African American descendant of slaves.
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Shows incredible disrespect towards black persons and the suffering they went through in this country, to falsely claim to be one of them so as to get preferential treatment on a college application.
I believe in Affirmative Action and paying our debt to black American society for what we did to them. Taking advantage of such a program by falsely claiming black African heritage, is horrible.
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It's all quite childish. Racist to notice the difference except when it's racist to not.
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There is nothing childish about wanting to repair 400 years of syatemic racial discrimination, and using preferences in college admissions as a way to help that process.
Missed the point I think. It's childish to act as though the attempt to rectify that 400 years should distinguish between African American descents of slaves and descendants of South Asians from a Africa. Or that laws meant to do so weren't intended to make that distinction.
I was agreeing with you.
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Earlier this week, Mayor Eric Adams, who is black, called Mamdani’s college-application claim “deeply offensive.
“The African American identity is not a checkbox of convenience,” the mayor griped of his foe. “It’s a history, a struggle and a lived experience. For someone to exploit that for personal gain is deeply offensive.”
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Mr. Adams, who is running as an independent, mocked Mr. Mamdani on social media, posting a cartoon depicting Mr. Mamdani having checked two boxes.
Todd Shapiro, a spokesman for the Adams campaign, said that Mr. Mamdani had “misrepresented his racial identity to gain admission to Columbia University,” adding: “This is not just dishonest — it’s possibly fraudulent. It may have taken a place away from a qualified African American applicant and misused a process designed to correct real, systemic inequities.”
“The African American identity is not a checkbox of convenience,” the mayor griped of his foe. “It’s a history, a struggle and a lived experience. For someone to exploit that for personal gain is deeply offensive.”
Black New Yorkers rage over Zohran Mamdani’s ‘African American’ claim: ‘He’s a fraud’
A slew of black Big Apple residents fumed Friday over mayoral front-runner Zohran Mamdani’s claim on an Ivy League college application that he is African American.
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Mr. Adams, who is running as an independent, mocked Mr. Mamdani on social media, posting a cartoon depicting Mr. Mamdani having checked two boxes.
Todd Shapiro, a spokesman for the Adams campaign, said that Mr. Mamdani had “misrepresented his racial identity to gain admission to Columbia University,” adding: “This is not just dishonest — it’s possibly fraudulent. It may have taken a place away from a qualified African American applicant and misused a process designed to correct real, systemic inequities.”
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EHocking
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Uh, nup. Up until 1967 in your country, Anti-miscegenation laws definitely deemed Asian Indians to be non-white.
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Also, a number were brought over by the British as indenturerd labour, so some SE Indians in America can indeed claim to be descendents of slaves.
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Ergo, some Indian-Americans from Africa (Uganda) can claim to be descendents of non-white slaves.
Why should they not deserve the same rights as descendents of African black slaves?
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He was born in Africa and moved to the USA. No, he's not a DOS, but neither is Barack Obama. Does 44 qualify as African-American? His dad was African and his mom was American.
Both you and Herc have leapt to the assumption that not only was he intentionally misrepresenting himself but that he was gaining an advantage by so doing. We don't know his intentions but we know that it didn't succeed with Columbia. Note also that by ticking the Asian box as well, Mamdani was probably hurting his chances, as Asians are considered overrepresented at the Ivy League schools.
Don't like the guy's politics, but this is a nothingburger.
EHocking
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Hercules56 probably thinks he's black enough to qualify.
Ya gotta SJW about "black" to cover up your Republican preferences somehow . . .
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Yes, let's focus on his skin color and whether or not he or his parents were the correct kind of non white.
Because clearly that is more important than the threat of the US president of stripping him of his rights and deporting him should he look like winning.
Because clearly that is more important than the threat of the US president of stripping him of his rights and deporting him should he look like winning.
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Adams thinks he can play the Race Card whilst running on a platform of being the puppet of the the most racist organizations in NY (ICE and NYPD) ?
It's fascinating how people think that certain words are magical.
It's fascinating how people think that certain words are magical.
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Only when it suits the right-wing.
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Mamdani's mom and dad were both born in India.
Its deceitful, dishonest, racist fraud to claim they are African-American, especially if hoping for admissions preferences for college.
He definitely owes African-Americans and Columbia and NYC an apology for the fraud he committed, and admit he is NOT of African decent.
That would put this story to rest, as long as he has not committed OTHER racist fraud regarding his heritage.
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