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Trump's Second Term

Dr.Sid said:
To be fair, there totally are cars burning in the streets ..
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It's Tragic. Up until now the protests were peaceful and lawful but a few idiots got out of control in LA and gave Trump his excuse.
It is oftens idiots on your side that do the most damage.
 
This kind of thing is probably caused by a few dozen morons, but the optics are horrificly bad and perfect for MAGA narratives...
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Norman Alexander said:
Think you just proved my point! People dressed in black with masks throwing rocks. Notice no ICE cops stop and arrest them for throwing rocks at the cars all the time? Could it be...they are their people? Also, those rocks seem awfully pissweak. Don't even leave a dint in the cars. Are they rubber?

Also, your video shows plenty of robocops with teargas and batons and shields, charging unarmed people.
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I know eh? Throwing these "rocks" at windshields and door panels rather than lining up a shot designed to shatter the driver's side window, spray glass into the drivers face, cause a loss of control and a collision which would create an opportunity to rescue the hostages.
 
Dr.Sid said:
Come on ..
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Serious question. Who actually set the cars on fire? Were they genuine protesters?

I'm not saying no protesters set cars on fire. But there's plenty of precedent for right-wing troublemakers to do this sort of stuff to create an excuse for police actions. There's also the crazy arsonists who will torch anything given a sliver of a chance. And even people looking to do a little car insurance fraud, or even neighbour-on-neighbour payback, while the atmosphere is right. Plus lots of other non-protester scenarios.

So that question again: Who set these cars on fire, and why?
 
Stout said:
I know eh? Throwing these "rocks" at windshields and door panels rather than lining up a shot designed to shatter the driver's side window, spray glass into the drivers face, cause a loss of control and a collision which would create an opportunity to rescue the hostages.
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I have no idea what the actual ◊◊◊◊ you are talking about here. I suspect neither do you. You have your operative fairy-tale and you are sticking with it. Good for you.
 
angrysoba said:
This kind of thing is probably caused by a few dozen morons, but the optics are horrificly bad and perfect for MAGA narratives...
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The optics are a long telephoto shot of some masked guy far in the distance, taken across a burning vehicle close up in the foreground. I'm estimating he is several hundred yards away. That's a long way to throw a Molotov cocktail.
 
Norman Alexander said:
The optics are a long telephoto shot of some masked guy far in the distance, taken across a burning vehicle close up in the foreground. I'm estimating he is several hundred yards away. That's a long way to throw a Molotov cocktail.
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He's standing on another car that he has smashed in...

uk.news.yahoo.com

Self-driving cars set on fire during LA protests

CNN’s Kyung Lah reports on Waymo’s self-driving cars being set on fire and vandalized during protests against immigration raids in Los Angeles.
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Safe-Keeper said:
I'm already seeing the trumpkins portray this as an 'attack on democracy' (oh, the irony) and the kind of out of control revolution-esque situation that requires the marines and the National Guard.

And yes, this definitely won't end well. I'm sure I'm not the only one who keeps thinking of the Kent State shootings.
Also, I'm sure that when innocents are hurt and killed, Dump will be praising the killings and the usual suspects will be seal clapping and parroting his lies that they were dangerous armed foreign terrorists :( .
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They're right. Sending in the army to quell peaceful protests against illegal arrests is an attack on democracy.
 
angrysoba said:
He's standing on another car that he has smashed in...

uk.news.yahoo.com

Self-driving cars set on fire during LA protests

CNN’s Kyung Lah reports on Waymo’s self-driving cars being set on fire and vandalized during protests against immigration raids in Los Angeles.
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Did you listen to the reporter? She says they are clearly different people vandalising the cars to those protesting. So who are the vandals?

ETA. I have no time for vandals. Prosecute them. But make sure the actual vandals are the ones arrested, not innocent bystanders.
 
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Norman Alexander said:
The optics are a long telephoto shot of some masked guy far in the distance, taken across a burning vehicle close up in the foreground. I'm estimating he is several hundred yards away. That's a long way to throw a Molotov cocktail.
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angrysoba said:
He's standing on another car that he has smashed in...
uk.news.yahoo.com

Self-driving cars set on fire during LA protests

CNN’s Kyung Lah reports on Waymo’s self-driving cars being set on fire and vandalized during protests against immigration raids in Los Angeles.
uk.news.yahoo.com uk.news.yahoo.com
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Norman Alexander said:
Did you listen to the reporter? She says they are clearly different people vandalising the cars to those protesting. So who are the vandals?

ETA. I have no time for vandals. Prosecute them. But make sure the actual vandals are the ones arrested, not innocent bystanders.
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I know! I am saying that the guy in the original photo was one of the vandals. I said that he probably represents little more than a few dozen morons as opposed to the regular protesters. I said that here:
angrysoba said:
This kind of thing is probably caused by a few dozen morons, but the optics are horrificly bad and perfect for MAGA narratives... View attachment 61728
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And I said it didn't look good!

The fact is that the guy you doubted was responsible for damage WAS one of the vandals, and that it does NOT look good with him waving a Mexican flag. That's all I am saying.
 
dudalb said:
Up unti l now the protests have been peaceful and lawful, but a few idiots decided to get violent, and gave Trump the chance he was looking for.
They played right into his hands.
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This is of course the poisoned dillemma.
On the one hand large crowds tend to attract a core of troublemakers, and especially ones as emotionally laden as this, where the authorities also actively seek to escalate.
On the other hand you have masked jackboots running trough your cities, abducting and dissapearing anyone they don't like the looks of without any due process or even chance to prove their innocence. Not protesting does not make them go away.
 
Around 500 Marines are on a "prepared to deploy" status in response to demonstrations in Los Angeles, according to a statement issued by the US Northern Command.

The Marines are from the 2nd Battalion, 7th Marines at Twentynine Palms, California, around 230km east of Los Angeles.

The statement said that the Marines would be deployed "should they be necessary to augment and support the DoD's [Department of Defense] protection of federal property and personnel efforts".

www.bbc.co.uk

Trump sends another 2,000 National Guards and 700 Marines to LA on fourth day of unrest

California Governor Gavin Newsom, who is suing the Trump administration, calls the president "dictatorial" and "deranged".
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