Ed Applying luma curve to photos and footage

[steenkh]

So no, I don't think he has Andy on ignore. I think he has anything he doesn't he want to see on ignore.

Yes, another kind of ignore.

 

[nt1]

The halo effect. The white line around the figure. Is not created by an unaltered photo.

Claim: history should contain unaltered footage. Or. Footage with effects used declared.

The famous photo of falling man is worse. Complete halo.

Coming next

 

[nt1]

Not natural light. DC impact.
fabricated or altered.
For what reason? Idk.


How about the DC helicopter/plane. A plane explosion creates the same light pattern as a street light. I am not asking for a single person in this firum to answer to it. If you are to the level of expert to answer. You need to have yourself or a peer at the institutional level release an analysis.


Falling man coming next.

Remember. There are hundreds.

 

[The Great Zaganza]

Of course, one could just ask if anyone in New York on 9/11 saw anything.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

All of the images you use have been changed by being copied from their original medium and format to another, possibly multiple times.

None are unaltered.

You already know your technique creates bright lines along edges in upscaled pictures. So you are only detecting evidence these pictures may have been upscaled from a lower resolution.

So what?

 

[nt1]

All of the images you use have been changed by being copied from their original medium and format to another, possibly multiple times.

None are unaltered.

You already know your technique creates bright lines along edges in upscaled pictures. So you are only detecting evidence these pictures may have been upscaled from a lower resolution.

So what?

Hi jack.

I can show these results in multi generation or as close to originals publicly possible.

I can show the results are baked into the photo. The results are the same.




Please state your claim and position on the event and what are your accepted and unacceptable questions, observations, and opinions of the event and footage.

I cant answer scrutiny if the person is immovable regardless.


These are observations that are recreatable by others for their own personal consideration. In their own hands. For free.

You should try it. Alter photos with luma curve and speak to an AI language model.

Try it as many times as you have asked me if i try multiple sources.

I would enjoy the input

 

[nt1]

I have a hundred examples. Ill supply multiple examples of each individual sample.

Please hold and observe. Comment constructively and direct to examples.

 

[nt1]

You already know your technique creates bright lines along edges in upscaled pictures. So you are only detecting evidence these pictures may have been upscaled from a lower resolution.

So what?

this is not accurate. It is so far off, that ill address it during other examples.

No. Not every photo displays a halo effect.

Yes. All poorly constructed composite photos with inferior programs display artifacts edges that are unnatural.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

I have a hundred examples.

They all presumably show the same thing, which has already been explained.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

this is not accurate.

Explain in what way it is not accurate please.

 

[nt1]

Starting a new thread and repeating stuff you have already presented is not going convince anyone here of the credibility of your claims.

At this point the only way you could do so are to either (a) take JayUtah off ignore and read and respond to his expert criticism or (b) put your technique to the test as you agreed to do in your previous thread. Preferably both.

Starting a thread on my own accord about my own subject that isnt CREATED BY ANOTHER USER CALLING ME TO ANSWER THEM.

Question.
If i start a thread that is calling out another users opinion. They either cannot answer it or they cannot start their own?

If anything. I was polite by entertaining it for as long as i did and not ignoring it and starting my own in the beginning.

 

[P.J. Denyer]

You've run away from legitimate questioning, no-one is fooled. Address JayUtah's comprehensive explanation of how the luminescence tool works & his mathematical proof of how your misuse of this tool is producing an entirely explicable effect you are misinterpreting.

 

[nt1]

Explain in what way it is not accurate please.

Impact and collapse.

There is footage i will examine outside of that.

Luma curve. The headwr doesnt address the method.

Footage outside the event to compare.

My title. Was invlusive of the overall subject.


Thanks jack for the question.

 

[nt1]

You've run away from legitimate questioning, no-one is fooled. Address JayUtah's comprehensive explanation of how the luminescence tool works & his mathematical proof of how your misuse of this tool is producing an entirely explicable effect you are misinterpreting.

I disagree with you.

 

[nt1]

They all presumably show the same thing, which has already been explained.

Incorrect.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

Impact and collapse.

There is footage i will examine outside of that.

Luma curve. The headwr doesnt address the method.

Footage outside the event to compare.

My title. Was invlusive of the overall subject.


Thanks jack for the question.

I'm not sure what useful information you think this imparts but it doesn't address the post it repies to.

 

[arthwollipot]

And how about Andy's six photos then?

 

[nt1]

Using the luma curve exposes altered and composite footage that is not genuine in images.

Simple as that.

Wait until we do people. Footage during. Footage made after. Footage made long after. Wait until we do many areas of the event.

I think you will enjoy seeing how much of this footage needs to be reevaluated as possibly being completely fabricated.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

Incorrect.

Go back and address JayUtah's two posts explaining mathematically and showing by example why your technique merely creates bright lines along edges in pictures which have been oversampled to upscale them from low resolution to a higher resolution.

You are wasting your time otherwise. We know why your technique draws bright borders around objects, and that it is not evidence the pictures have been faked.

 

[Pixel42]

Starting a thread on my own accord about my own subject that isnt CREATED BY ANOTHER USER CALLING ME TO ANSWER THEM.

The thread was created for you (presumably by a moderator) because your posts were not really on topic where you originally posted them, but were considered worthy of their own thread rather than being sent to AAH. Posts in one thread are split off into their own thread for this reason all the time on this forum. If anything it's a compliment. If you don't like the title that was chosen for it, try reporting the OP and requesting a different one.