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Cont: Musk, SpaceX and future of Tesla II

Only if they get full self drive working, only if people don't mind their cars being unavailable to them for significant periods of time, only if they don't mind large mileages being racked up and only if they don't mind complete strangers using their cars unsupervised.

Another Musk fantasy. Why isn't he called out on this garbage?
 
dirtywick said:
lol what is going on in the world
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It's ◊◊◊◊◊◊, we've deified greed, ◊◊◊◊◊◊ the planet, handed power to facists and created a world full of misinformation.

If we don't all end up dead from climate change, we'll all be in poorhouses by the 2050s.

Have a lovely day! :D
 
3point14 said:
It's ◊◊◊◊◊◊, we've deified greed, ◊◊◊◊◊◊ the planet, handed power to facists and created a world full of misinformation.

If we don't all end up dead from climate change, we'll all be in poorhouses by the 2050s.

Have a lovely day! :D
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S'OK, I'll almost certainly be dead by then anyway....
 
arthwollipot said:
Robotaxis have been on the cards for ages anyway. He's not announcing anything new or original.
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You could do that deal with a human driver right now.

"I'll buy you a car to use as a cab, pay for fuel/charge and service it, and you just drive. Treat it as "my" cab so I'm always priority 1 passenger but after that you can take all the fares you want and we split the money. Yes, sure, you can work shifts with your wife and brother in law and run it 24/7."
 
The Don said:
Only if they get full self drive working, only if people don't mind their cars being unavailable to them for significant periods of time, only if they don't mind large mileages being racked up and only if they don't mind complete strangers using their cars unsupervised.

Another Musk fantasy. Why isn't he called out on this garbage?
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And a big part of the fantasy is that the car owners will be happy to give Tesla a big chunk of the fares earned for the use of their cars.
 
Gulliver Foyle said:
And a big part of the fantasy is that the car owners will be happy to give Tesla a big chunk of the fares earned for the use of their cars.
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what choice do they have?
Tesla tracks their movements and can disable their cars.
If you use a Tesla to make money, better be ready to pay your tithe to Musk.
 
Elon says Crewed aircraft will be destroyed instantly by cheap drone swarms.

And Lockheed-Martin and the F-35 are a Woke Fiasco betraying taxpayers apparently

Elon Musk
@elonmusk
Crewed aircraft will be destroyed instantly by cheap drone swarms

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Laura Loomer
@LauraLoomer
🚨NEW🚨

The F-35 Fiasco: Lockheed Martin’s Woke Agenda & The Betrayal of American Taxpayers

It’s time to shine a spotlight on a scandal that’s been quietly draining our nation’s resources while compromising our military readiness. Every single day, @LockHeedMartin, a company increasingly obsessed with pushing a woke agenda, is delivering F-35 fighter jets that are simply not ready for combat. This isn’t just a minor hiccup—it’s a multi-billion-dollar betrayal of the American taxpayer & our national security. This should be getting way more attention & scrutiny than it currently is.

The F-35 program, one of the most expensive weapons programs in history, is plagued by delays, defects, & downright incompetence. The U.S. Air Force is being forced to accept jets that lack functional radar systems—yes, you read that right, NO RADAR!

According to reports from @insidedefense, and Air & Space Forces Magazine, the F-35 program has shown “no improvement” in software development & testing, with critical systems still lagging behind schedule. The Pentagon’s own assessments confirm that these jets are not combat-ready, yet they’re being rolled out as if everything is fine. How can we trust a company that delivers half-baked fighter jets to our brave men & women in uniform?

Source: Inside Defense https://insidedefense.com/daily-new...-improvement-software-development-and-testing
Source: Air & Space Forces Magazine https://airandspaceforces.com/new-pentagon-report-f-35-test-progress-readiness/

If you thought jets with no radar was bad, here’s the kicker: about 1 month before President @realDonaldTrump took office for his 2nd term, & right before the busy Christmas & holiday season, Lockheed Martin somehow managed to secure a massive $11.8 billion contract under the Biden administration. This deal, rushed through under the Biden Admin, reeks of cronyism & deception.

Air Force Secretary Frank Kendall, a key figure in the outgoing admin, appears to have done a favor for his buddy, Lockheed Martin CEO Jim Taiclet. Instead of holding Lockheed Martin accountable for their failures, the Biden admin rewarded them with billions of dollars more of your hard-earned tax dollars. Is this what “leadership” looks like?

BUT WAIT! THERE’S MORE!

It actually gets worse. You’re probably asking yourself, why are these jets failing so spectacularly? Could it be that Lockheed has been too busy prioritizing Diversity, Equity, & Inclusion (DEI) initiatives& hiring anti-Trump lobbyists instead of focusing on building reliable aircraft? According to a scathing report from Breitbart, Shelly O’Neill Stoneman, Lockheed’s Senior VP of Government Affairs has been described as a “Trump-hating woke warrior.” When a company is more concerned with political posturing than engineering excellence, is it any surprise their jets are rusting at sea?

Yes, *RUSTING*.

The War Zone reported that the F-35C’s radar-absorbent skin is deteriorating after just months at sea, rendering these multi-million-dollar jets even less effective.

Source: Breitbart https://breitbart.com/politics/2025...nment-affairs-as-a-trump-hating-woke-warrior/

Source: The War Zone https://twz.com/44067/the-f-35cs-radar-absorbent-skin-is-looking-pretty-rough-after-months-at-sea

Let’s talk about the cost.

The F-35 program has ballooned to a staggering **$2 TRILLION** over its lifetime. That’s not a typo—trillion with a T!

This is government and taxpayer WASTE on an unimaginable scale, & it’s coming out of our pockets! Meanwhile, Lockheed Martin’s CEO, Jim Taiclet is living large, reportedly racking up $928,000 in corporate jet expenses last year alone. If he wants to live like a king, maybe he should stop fleecing taxpayers & start delivering jets that actually work.

Are we, the American people, footing the bill for his lavish lifestyle while our military gets stuck with defective equipment?

Source: Lockheed Martin 2025 Proxy Statement https://lockheedmartin.com/content/...ments/annual-reports/2025-proxy-statement.pdf

This is a wake-up call. Why are we continuing to pour tens of billions of $ into a program that delivers rust buckets instead of reliable fighter jets? Our adversaries aren’t waiting for Lockheed to get their act together, & neither should we.
@elonmusk @PeteHegseth
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And yet, the Israelis have been successfully using them in combat since 2018, including deep strikes into Iran.
 
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The full self drive program, one of the most expensive car addons in history, is plagued by delays, defects, & downright incompetence. The U.S. Air Force is being forced to accept cars that lack functional radar systems—yes, you read that right, NO RADAR!​
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According to reports from @insidedefense, and Air & Space Forces Magazine, the full self drive program has shown “no improvement” in software development & testing, with critical systems still lagging behind schedule. ….​
 
Andy_Ross said:
Elon says Crewed aircraft will be destroyed instantly by cheap drone swarms.
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As usual, Elon Musk doesn't know what he's talking about. Drones are still quite apparent to radar. Many airports already have drone detection and interdiction systems in place. These can tell the difference between drones and birds, for example. If you can see them, you can avoid them.

Andy_Ross said:
And Lockheed-Martin and the F-35 are a Woke Fiasco betraying taxpayers apparently
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There's some teeth to that. My aerodynamicist a while back came to us from the F-35 program at Lockheed Martin. He had all kinds of horror stories about the F-35 development. It's kind of the space shuttle or Swiss Army knife of fighters, designed not by committee but by three committees. However, it's not a "woke fiasco." There's nothing "woke" about it. The goal was to make everything simpler and cheaper by having only one major fighter design for everyone instead of a whole bunch of different, incompatible technologies. The problems came from unwisely believing one could cheaply and simply serve many different masters.
 
JayUtah said:
As usual, Elon Musk doesn't know what he's talking about. Drones are still quite apparent to radar. Many airports already have drone detection and interdiction systems in place. These can tell the difference between drones and birds, for example. If you can see them, you can avoid them.


There's some teeth to that. My aerodynamicist a while back came to us from the F-35 program at Lockheed Martin. He had all kinds of horror stories about the F-35 development. It's kind of the space shuttle or Swiss Army knife of fighters, designed not by committee but by three committees. However, it's not a "woke fiasco." There's nothing "woke" about it. The goal was to make everything simpler and cheaper by having only one major fighter design for everyone instead of a whole bunch of different, incompatible technologies. The problems came from unwisely believing one could cheaply and simply serve many different masters.
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That idea didn't work for the F-111 either.
 
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