Cont: The Trials of Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito: Part 32

[Vixen]

Rudy Hermann Guede, Basketball Player, News, Stats - Eurobasket

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According to the above site, Rudy Hermann Guede is an Ivorian-Italian basketball player born in 1986. He is a 5'11" guard* who most recently played for a team in the Italian C2 league.

* Two of the 5 traditional positions on a basketball team are called "guards".

184 centimeters, Panella's height (according to posters here) is equal to 72.441 inches. There are 12 inches in 1 foot. 72.441/12 = 6.037 feet, which is essentially 6 feet and certainly not 6 feet 2 inches. (2 inches = 1/6 foot = 0.1666 feet, to 4 decimal places.) Note that 6'0" - 5'11" = 1" (where ' indicates feet and " indicates inches).

Vixen, your post is either intentionally false or there is a significant problem with your arithmetic.

Fair enough.


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[TomG]

Here is a picture of how easy it is for someone from the roadside to see Filomena's window.

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Source: Kermit/Raper

Hmmm!

 

[Vixen]

Hmmm!View attachment 60227

Sure, once you've passed it!

 

[TruthCalls]

So how come Delfo Baretti didn't have much luck when he tried - for the defence - to demonstrate how easy it was to get in by that method (bearing in mind that is the easy part, with the difficult part being what happens next).View attachment 60224

Any crime expert will tell you that an experienced burglar's Modi Operandi is to:

• check out the cost is clear
• the entry point is not visible to others whilst you are doing it. Hence, the burglary at the lawyers offices two weeks before was broken into at the back of the building via a balcony and the alarm system deactivated.
• So, by entering at Filomena's window you are drawing attention to yourself by anybody passing:
  1. seeing you going in via the window in full view
  2. and by the LOUD noise of a 9lb boulder smashing the glass, alerting anybody who might be at home.
• The next key thing a burglar will note is how they will exit.
• Burglars are in a state of intense fear whilst they are in the act of intruding on someone's property with a real prospect of being caught in the act or trapped.
• So, if Guede was an experienced burglar, for a start, he would have chosen the totally secluded entry point around the back of the building and far easier to access via the low balcony, with similar shutters on the window to Filomena's. Violá! He's in Knox' room, Knox being the one he fancies.View attachment 60223
• We see after the hazing of Mez, Guede's shoeprints in her blood lead directly out of her room and to the front door and out.
• Had Guede gone there to burgle, there were much richer pickings in the boys' flat below, stereo and hifi equipment, laptops, etc and everybody away for the Bank Holiday weekend with no fear of being disturbed.
• As for drugs, the marijuana plants were being cultivated in the downstairs flat if it was drugs Guede was after.
• All Guede needed to do was ring the doorbell, which it appears is how he got in. He was bored. He met Knox in Plaza Grimana and they decided to hang out together. As witnessed by Kokamanni.
• Knox was seething about being snubbed by Mez over Halloween. Sollecito, he just wanted kicks and 'extreme experiences'.
• What was missing? Only Mez' stuff. It was personal.

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The back balcony is easily visible from the road, far more so than Filomena's window. And it's not "far easier", you still have to make a climb.

The plants downstairs were small.. if he even knew they were there, he'd know they were not mature and would have no THC yet.

No, breaking in is how it appears he got in. Since no one was home at 20:30, the last time we see Guede approaching the cottage, ringing the doorbell wouldn't have gotten him into the home.

Oh, FFS, for seventeen years we've been hearing this BS line. Meredith did NOT "snub" Amanda. She was invited to dinner with her friends and she accepted.

Yes, stuff that would be kept in her handbag. And who's DNA was found on the handbag?.... yepper, Guede's. Hmmmm

 

[TruthCalls]

Sure, once you've passed it!

Well, you've got to get past the tree before you'd have any chance of seeing Filomena's window, and that pretty much gets you to where this photo was taken.

 

[Numbers]

This passage from the M/R is interesting:



So it seems that the Supreme Court don't regard the ECHR considerations that the memoriale and prison intercept were retractions a "binding". I can't imagine them making that sort of clamorous error, so maybe they know something that we don't. It might be worth investigating.

I suspect that the CSC is taking the liberty of misinterpreting the meaning of the ECHR judgment. There are ECHR cases where the ECHR has stated very clearly and explicitly that the domestic courts are not to give any meaning or interpretation to an ECHR judgment that is not consistent with that judgment.

Here's a summary from the ECHR Knowledge Source Guide on Article 46, Binding Force of Judgments, paragraph 1 (inline citations omitted for clarity; my bolding):

...[T]he Court further underlined that the whole structure of the Convention rests on the general assumption that public authorities in the member States act in good faith. That structure includes the supervision procedure, and the execution of judgments should also involve good faith and take place in a manner compatible with the “conclusions and spirit” of the judgment. The failure to implement a final, binding judicial decision would be likely to lead to situations incompatible with the principle of the rule of law which the Contracting States undertook to respect when they ratified the Convention....

https://ks.echr.coe.int/documents/d/echr-ks/guide_art_46_eng

 

[TomG]

Sure, once you've passed it!

Well, I think it gives a pretty good car's eye view of the cottage. A few yards further back isn't going to make much difference.

 

[SpitfireIX]

Great logic! "Guede is African so of course, he is a natural athlete and surely has extraordinarily long arms, so of course he is better at scaling twelve-and-half-feet walls than any accomplished rock climber four inches taller. Stands to reason, don't it? Case closed, M'Lud."


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Thank you so much for perfectly illustrating for everyone reading this thread what I meant about your attempting to use faux controversies as red herrings.

First, how did you not read, or not comprehend, the first two sentences of my post?? Do you have a pair of Joo Janta 200 Super-Chromatic Fact Sensitive Reading Glasses to protect you from any information that might disturb your preconceived conspiracy theories?

Second, and this should have been obvious to anyone who wasn't making a bad-faith effort to intentionally misread what I wrote, my point was that even if Guede is 1.5in shorter than Panella, they probably both have about the same vertical reach.

There is no reasonable reading of my post that supports your interpretation. You are simply making an extremely lame attempt to distract from the fact that your insinuation that comparing Panella's and Gueda's climbing ability is unfair has been refuted while scoring a few cheap rhetorical points.

 

[SpitfireIX]

I am guessing anything to stay in the public spotlight.

Your continual, unevidenced attempts at assassinating Knox's character say far more about you than they do about her.

 

[SpitfireIX]

Oh please, not the 'wicked prosecutor' act again.

The evidence of Mignini's misconduct and incompetence (again, as confirmed by the ECHR), in this and other cases, is overwhelming and incontrovertible. The fact that you are unwilling or unable to see this can only be due to willful blindness.

 

[Welshman]

The evidence of Mignini's misconduct and incompetence (again, as confirmed by the ECHR), in this and other cases, is overwhelming and incontrovertible. The fact that you are unwilling or unable to see this can only be due to willful blindness.

It is important to acknowledge that guilters have consistently acted as boot lickers and mouthpieces for the prosecution and because of this they can never acknowledge any wrongdoing on the part of the prosecution.

 

[Stacyhs]

It is on an incline. Your headlights are immediately in front of the house, not from a few metres further back approaching it.


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OK...I here are the stills taken from the same video from several feet farther back approaching it:


The white arrow on the left indicates the window.


The circled area on the right indicates the headlights' light first appearance in the video from the approaching car.



On the right is the first appearance of the car.
Go on and tell me that FR's window is illuminated by those headlights or any light. As I said, the light on the parking parapet near her window were not there in 2007.

Next excuse!

 

[Stacyhs]

"it most likely is the result of small pieces of paper being moved through the air when the murder room door was quickly opened or closed".


Thanks for the best laugh I have had all week!

What? He didn't have any shattered window pane shards to cling onto...?


If the video is not heavily doctored, let's see the whole thing and not just highly selected highlights designed by the defence.




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So you're still claiming that CH 5 video was 'doctored' by the defense with zero evidence. That somehow, the defense got ahold of a British television production and changed it to make it look like the climber was successful and put THAT version on YT.



I haven't had that good a laugh since your claim that Kercher was laid on top a sheet and was moved on around on it.

 

[Stacyhs]

I am guessing anything to stay in the public spotlight.



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Of course you would.

 

[Stacyhs]

"I cannot lie. I was there. " ~ Knox wiretap talking to her mother Edda in private.


"That's fine by us!" ~ The PIP.

Why do you insist on repeating lies that have been debunked years ago? Even Massei understood Knox was referring to Sollecito's apartment, NOT the cottage. From the Massei MR:

Then, with regard to the intercepted conversation with her mother and father, in which she said ‚ "I was there I have no interest in lying, I’m not afraid of the truth" and ‚ "It’s stupid, I can’t say anything but the truth, because I know I was there, I mean, I can’t lie there’s no reason to [62] do it," she explained that the reference to the fact that ‚'she was there‛ meant that she was in Raffaele’s apartment.

Try reading the conversation in context instead of cherry-picking the parts you can spin.

 

[Stacyhs]

Er, the difference between 6'2" and 5'10" is four inches, rounded up from the equivalent centimetres.

Er...according to you, Panella is 1.84 m which equals 6 FT, not 6'2".
Geude is 1.80m which equals 5'11".

I don't know about your math, but in my math the difference between 6' and 5'11" is NOT "four inches".

 

[Stacyhs]

I can understand how Amanda's family felt about Mignini as Mignini is a thoroughly nasty piece of work as his track record proves. If I was in Amanda's position I don't think I would want any contact with him. Amanda suffered enormously due to Mignini. He decided straight away after Meredith's body was discovered that Amanda was guilty with no evidence to support this view. Numerous abuses were committed under Mignini denying access to lawyers in the interrogation, feeding false information to the media, lying to Amanda she had HIV, lying in court and suppressing evidence and carrying out fraud. Amanda lost four years of her life and could have spent her life in prison due to Mignini. The last thing I would want to do is reach out to this scumbag.

You're succumbing to the same fallacy I see PGP do: assume what YOU would do is the only normal way to respond or react.
Personally, I can see why she did what she did. She needed to better understand the man who prosecuted her for years, who presented her as an evil killer. She had so many questions she needed answers to that only he could provide. She also needed to lose her fear of him and see that he no longer had that power over her.

 

[Stacyhs]

This passage from the M/R is interesting:



So it seems that the Supreme Court don't regard the ECHR considerations that the memoriale and prison intercept were retractions a "binding". I can't imagine them making that sort of clamorous error, so maybe they know something that we don't. It might be worth investigating.

The ECHR will be quite pleased to hear that. Not.

 

[Stacyhs]

If the interior shutters were closed, was the rock and all the broken glass found outside?
<edit to add> I'm asking because I don't know and search is broken. I avoided this thread for many years because the topic was just too painful; I was working with Meredith's brother when this happened. So there are a lot of questions-asked-a-thousand-times which I don't know about.

The rock was found on the bedroom floor just to the right of the window (facing into the room). Broken glass was found on the inside and on the window sill. If the rock had been thrown from inside, there would be marks on the closed green shutters from the impact of the rock. There was none. However, a shard of glass was found embedded on the outside facing of the interior white shutters showing the rock came from outside, breaking the glass and forcing a shard into the white shutter. Ballistic expert F. Pasquale re-enacted throwing the rock through an equivalent window and bedroom set up like Kercher's. His 3 re-enactments showed the rock came from outside and shattered the glass in the same way the police photos show.

 

[Numbers]

The ECHR will be quite pleased to hear that. Not.

The CSC statement that they are intentionally misinterpreting or ignoring a point in the ECHR judgment will make the new ECHR judgment really straightforward. Regarding a claim about a violation of Convention Article 46, Knox and her lawyers, IIUC, must first present it to the CoM. The CoM will then, by a vote, determine whether Italy violated Convention Article 46; if so, this may help speed up the new ECHR judgment. The procedure for a claim under Article 46 is given under Article 46, paragraphs 3 and 4. In a direct application to the ECHR, Knox would be entitled to claim a violation of Convention Article 6 for the re-conviction being an unfair trial.

Kavala v. Turkiye is a relevant case relating to Article 46. See:

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169. The whole structure of the Convention rests on the general assumption that public authorities in the member States act in good faith. That structure includes the supervision procedure and the execution of judgments should also involve good faith and take place in a manner compatible with the “conclusions and spirit” of the judgment. Moreover, the importance of the good faith obligation is paramount where the Court has found, as in the present case, a violation of Article 18, the object and purpose of which is to prohibit the misuse of power.

170. The Court reiterates its well-established case-law to the effect that failure to implement a final, binding judicial decision would be likely to lead to situations incompatible with the principle of the rule of law which the Contracting States undertook to respect when they ratified the Convention.