The Truth about RFK Jr

The Don said:
Done right there's some merit to this. Employing "nudge" methods to encourage people to adopt a more healthy lifestyle; increasing routine testing to catch diseases earlier and/or before medication is required; taking an holistic approach to health so that medication isn't the sole option (mental health springs to mind on this one).

The thing is that Dr Oz isn't proposing this, instead he'll be shilling for snake oil treatments and pseudoscience
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He has a vested interest in that "industry". So he is, technically, highly unqualified for that government job - Hatch Act and all that. Or as Trump would say, "a perfect fit".
 
There is a hint of Terrain Theory in Dr. Oz's comments. What about immunocompromised patients? What about evolving pathogens?
 
He's not entirely wrong; losing weight, eating healthy, quitting smoking, drinking less alcohol or none at all . . . all of these things contribute to better health, but there are still chronic conditions that require medication. For example. I've always had high blood pressure, even when I was young and athletic, but as I got older, gained weight, etc, it worsened until I needed medication. Even now, after I turned things around, lost a ◊◊◊◊ ton of weight, I still need medication, but at a lower dose. Ditto cholesterol meds. High cholesterol seems to run in my family, but my meds, combined with a heart healthier diet, keeps my numbers beneath the recommended levels for someone with heart disease.

The problem with Oz is that he is often full of ◊◊◊◊, peddling psuedoscience as The Don pointed out. Like RFK Jr, he should be nowhere near our public health systems, but here we are.
 
The Don said:
Done right there's some merit to this. Employing "nudge" methods to encourage people to adopt a more healthy lifestyle; increasing routine testing to catch diseases earlier and/or before medication is required; taking an holistic approach to health so that medication isn't the sole option (mental health springs to mind on this one).

The thing is that Dr Oz isn't proposing this, instead he'll be shilling for snake oil treatments and pseudoscience
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Other things that are barriers to national health: not requiring employers to allow sick leave, not requiring paid sick leave, allowing pharmaceutical price gouging, and of course all the cuts to public health agencies. Advising people to "eat more vegetables" (which are now more likely to be contaminated with disease-causing agents thanks to FDA cuts) while gutting Medicaid is not nudging towards health, it's an attempt to distract the public from the outrages being committed upon it.
 
TragicMonkey said:
Other things that are barriers to national health: not requiring employers to allow sick leave, not requiring paid sick leave, allowing pharmaceutical price gouging, and of course all the cuts to public health agencies. Advising people to "eat more vegetables" (which are now more likely to be contaminated with disease-causing agents thanks to FDA cuts) while gutting Medicaid is not nudging towards health, it's an attempt to distract the public from the outrages being committed upon it.
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Exactly! He's doing few or none of the things which could lead to a healthier populace requiring less routine medication.
 
Resume said:
He's not entirely wrong; losing weight, eating healthy, quitting smoking, drinking less alcohol or none at all . . . all of these things contribute to better health, but there are still chronic conditions that require medication. For example. I've always had high blood pressure, even when I was young and athletic, but as I got older, gained weight, etc, it worsened until I needed medication. Even now, after I turned things around, lost a ◊◊◊◊ ton of weight, I still need medication, but at a lower dose. Ditto cholesterol meds. High cholesterol seems to run in my family, but my meds, combined with a heart healthier diet, keeps my numbers beneath the recommended levels for someone with heart disease.

The problem with Oz is that he is often full of ◊◊◊◊, peddling psuedoscience as The Don pointed out. Like RFK Jr, he should be nowhere near our public health systems, but here we are.
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If one listens to Dr. Oz or Secretary Kennedy with half an ear, one hears some pleasantries with which it is easy to agree. But cholesterol is a good example of how Terrain Theory goes badly wrong. Many people are heterozygous for defects in the Low Density Lipoprotein receptor protein, giving them a higher concentration of LDL particles in the bloodstream. Statins indirectly raise the number of LDL receptors; this plus improved diet (IIRC) lowers serum LDL levels. It is not that diet is completely irrelevant, but neither can it affect the genetic defect.
 
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Oz (America's Quack as Gorski has been calling him for years) should know fine well that some of us have conditions which all the healthy living you like would not have prevented and need a heap of meds which are totally necessary to keep us alive.

Y'know, who I was perfectly healthy and active until I suddenly wasn't...
 
Chris_Halkides said:
If one listens to Dr. Oz or Secretary Kennedy with half an ear, one hears some pleasantries with which it is easy to agree. But cholesterol is a good example of how Terrain Theory goes badly wrong. Many people are heterozygous for defects in the Low Density Lipoprotein receptor protein, giving them a higher concentration of LDL particles in the bloodstream. Statins indirectly raise the number of LDL receptors; this plus improved diet (IIRC) lowers serum LDL levels. It is not that diet is completely irrelevant, but neither can it affect the genetic defect.
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Indeed. Due to skeletal muscle pain, we tried lowering the dosage of my statin, and changed it from daily to three times a week. Unfotunately, my LDL levels ticked up a few points beyond what is considered safe for someone like me*, so we're back to daily, but still low dosage and we'll see what happens.

* LDL is still low but doc wants it under 100
 
Carrot Flower King said:
Oz (America's Quack as Gorski has been calling him for years) should know fine well that some of us have conditions which all the healthy living you like would not have prevented and need a heap of meds which are totally necessary to keep us alive.

Y'know, who I was perfectly healthy and active until I suddenly wasn't...
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The Trump Healthcare Plan: The strong survive and the weak fall by the wayside.
 
In 2022 at SBM David Gorski wrote, "Those of us who promote science-based medicine and try to counter quackery and antivaccine misinformation have long lamented how Dr. Oz, despite promoting misinformation about health for over a decade, maintained his positions at Columbia University as professor and vice-chair of surgery at Columbia University College of Physicians and Surgeons, as well as the medical director of the Integrative Medicine Program (i.e., Columbia’s quackademic medicine) program at New York-Presbyterian Hospital. It’s a lament that we tended to repeat almost any time Dr. Oz hit a new low in promoting quackery (which was depressingly not infrequent). We kept wondering why Columbia would continue to employ him in such high level leadership positions for so many years, despite his increasingly awful reputation in medicine for promoting quacks like Joe Mercola and even Mike Adams."
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Dr. Gorski quoted Professor Caplan regarding Dr. Oz and Columbia University: "“My question becomes, ‘What took so long?’ He’s been a huge danger to public health in the US and around the world for a long time with respect to quack cures for Covid and touting quackery to treat diseases."
 
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Norman Alexander said:
Hey Oz: Maybe the tax money being spent on pointless physical jerks festivals just for poor people (are these going to be mandatory?) could be better spent on health insurance for all Americans. Better outcomes for all, you know?

And also, go ◊◊◊◊ yourself in the ear.
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Why do you hate America?
 
Dr. Oz is a literal brain surgeon. Unfortunately he knows absolutely nothing about anything else.
My late mother-in-law once needed brain surgery after a fall. When we talked to the surgeon afterward we asked him a more general question and he said "Whoa, I'm just a brain mechanic. You need to talk to a doctor about that."
Oz is not that bright nor as aware.
 
Trebuchet said:
Dr. Oz is a literal brain surgeon. Unfortunately he knows absolutely nothing about anything else.
My late mother-in-law once needed brain surgery after a fall. When we talked to the surgeon afterward we asked him a more general question and he said "Whoa, I'm just a brain mechanic. You need to talk to a doctor about that."
Oz is not that bright nor as aware.
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His wife is a "reiki master," another example of the vomit-worthy woo he peddles.
 
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