Those poor Irish-Americans, sadly unable to properly celebrate their heritage without a federal holiday and decorations in every federal office. /s
If someone has a history of acting in bad faith, I'm not going to care what they have to say on any given topic.
Trump has threatened to pull Federal funding from ANY college that has ethnic affinity clubs.
Those poor Irish-Americans, unable to properly celebrate their heritage, without taxpayer dollars in their pockets. /s
So you think its ok to crack down on people celebrating their heritage. Because you think somehow acknowledging and celebrating one's heritage is a bad thing, and we should punish students for doing this.
Nobody is cracking down on this. Nobody is punishing students for this. Students are not entitled to have the federal government fund their ethnic celebrations.
You're confusing the issue with an unrealistic framing. If, hypothetically, a school gets funding from the state for student clubs, and one of those clubs is the African American Student Alliance, it would be a textbook case of viewpoint discrimination to say that "ethnic affinity" clubs aren't entitled to funding.
You don't like the framing talk to @Hercules56
It's your framing, not his.
No. I've been responding to his framing all along.
Here's what you were responding to:
I question your dual premise that these are the only ways to recognize "cultural and ethnic diversity" and that this is the only thing such programs did. Also, the headline is clickbait. The programs in question were paused for review, they may or may not get shut down. If they were engaged in racial discrimination (as many such programs are), then that's not just celebrating diversity. That's engaging in racial discrimination, and it is right and proper that such clubs be shut down. If they are not, then a review will show that they are not and I have no problem with them starting up again.And this
West Point shuts down clubs for minorities, women amid DEI purge
The U.S. Military Academy has disbanded a dozen West Point cadet clubs centered on ethnicity, gender, race and sexuality.www.militarytimes.com
So i ask again, what is so wrong with celebrating and recognizing our nation's cultural and ethnic diversity???
LMFTFY: If you don't like what someone has to say, you (like Arth) can conveniently claim that they are a bad faith actor to justify not having tio consider their arguments.
Edit: found the source of that quote in this thread.
You haven't fixed anything. You're just falsely imputing motivations.
Post #1,928, on this page.Ziggurat said:
How about religious celebrations? Xmas is a national holiday for government workers.
This is more or less irrelevant, and has no legal force. What's relevant is the effect of the executive orders they have issued.
Executive orders have no legal force on anyone who isn't part of the executive branch. But if you're concerned about an executive order rather than the relevant agency position, then you should cite the relevant text of the executive order you think matters. In no case are third party characterizations of agency positions or executive orders more determinative than the actual positions or orders themselves.
That isn't particularly true, due to delegated power. It's also kind of irrelevant. Like I said--what's relevant is the effect of the executive orders. You might want to consider who sued to enjoin these orders, and why they had standing.
Who said it was "more determinative"? It was broadly accurate, and was then mischaracterized.