Once again we stumble over the problem of having more than enough legitimate complaints to raise, but somehow being compelled to make stuff up anyway.
Nah, what I like about our side is we care about what's true and untrue. Apparently some professor somewhere heard a rumour and jumped the gun. Maybe some student misunderstood something and went to one of their faculty members for support and she passed it on before she should have. Either way we asked for sources, got none, and moved on. If it's confirmed at some later time, fine. If not, great, it's a nothingburger and we can breathe a sigh of relief.
What is "the issue"? Can you sum it up in less than a couple sentences or less, but maybe more than a three word slogan?
Not enough people liked the slogans.
Thats exactly why this bothers me (maybe more than it should). You can't really complain about the other side spreading partisan disinformation... while you are mindlessly spreading your own partisan disinformation.
Thats definitely what I'm thinking. A teacher basically having a little social media chat about something that surely has some basis in fact, yet forgetting that... the world... is watching her chat, and might hold her to a higher factual standard than her intent was to be held.
Well... sort of. It's a matter of integrity for our fellow members here, for which we hold a high standard. When you spread a lie, and it becomes clear you did, you address that. You don't slink away or change the subject, especially if you insult another member while discussing the lie you were helping spread. You gotta cop to that ◊◊◊◊.
Exactly my point. If we care about truth, we confront mistruth directly, even if it means a little temporary egg on our face. To me, it's worse to leave the rotten egg on your face and ignore it while you try to evade honesty. .
I can see that. And, at least indirectly, I think that was the point Marian Call was making, although her suggestion was perhaps fruitless if you accept her original argument. "Black Lives Matter" for example, was turned into "All Lives Matter"--which resonated with MAGA, but it resonated because the Maggats were/are too shallow/ignorant to understand the point of "Black* lives matter" partly because they themselves have never been the target of blatant racism.
I disagree, for some it was but many people who adopted that phrase simply are clueless about ongoing racism. If they don't experience it personally it doesn't exist; it's made up by the libs. Same way they dismiss any attempt to level the playing field with DEI, they assume if a woman/minority/LGBQT candidate doesn't get a job it is because they are less qualified, not due to any bias. You can call that racist or bigoted, and in some cases it is, but a lot if it is simple ignorance.
I'll grant you that! In the context of this thread, I'm trying to differentiate those who can be reached through education, and those who are lost causes, who will remain racist SOBs to their graves. The former could change their mind about Trumpism, the latter have to be minimized and thwarted.
Street takeovers?
Is that what they say at your meetings?
I asked google instead. Seems no one anywhere, save this lone social media poster, is aware of this. She says 89 students are affected by the scholarship reversal and payback of the scholarship funds. Not only has no one else noticed this, but the program itself says (in an article dated about a week ago) that only16 students total received any kind of scholarship. The program itself is geared towards poor kids who want to get into a career in teaching in Nebraska, where they are woefully short on teachers.
Husker-led project is building the next generation of teachers | Nebraska Today
The pilot program will help recruit, retain and diversify the next generation of teachers. Led by University of Nebraska–Lincoln scholar Amanda Morales, the project is focusing initially on six districts dealing with teacher shortages and demographic shifts.news.unl.edu
I looked. Seems this one teacher is repeating something she thinks she heard from one student the day before. There have been no other reports, or any of these alleged 89 students presenting the letter they received, even with personal info redacted. Nothing from the school, or program, or students, or parents. Nothing at all.
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Honestly, I took all that as bull ◊◊◊◊ speak for "hey our white Nebraska asses don't quite know what to do with all these newfangled subcultures and need to recruit fresh blood directly out of their population because they are so foreign to us". The name of the program looks like a reverse engineered acronym.that spells out RAICES, which is Spanish for roots, so I'm guessing that a heavily Spanish subculture is gaining ground and they are doing what they can to get those kids the best education they can provide them.
I think you're both taking the simple way out so you don't have to think about it.
Have you not seen a street takeover? It's one of the most "black lives don't matter for ◊◊◊◊" things that modern American black culture has produced so far. You haven't truly lived until you've seen a black man doing donuts in an intersection, knocking another black man sprawling unconscious with his car as he swings by, and then two more black men rush up to the victim to smack him around and empty his pockets. This activity seems to be one of the forms the resistance has been taking.
Having lived in Nebraska, there was actually a fairly decent sized hispanic, predominantly mexican, population. Not as high as states that share a border, of course, but far more than Washington or Oregon or Minnesota. Also, Omaha has an extremely large and very important military base, which brings an immense amount of diversity. UN Lincoln, UN Omaha, and Creighton all had robust international student programs; I was in the minority in my master's program at Creighton - the majority of the students were some shade of brown (and the ones from Sudan and Senegal were actually black), and nobody had any problems with it. Nebraska, especially Omaha, is actually pretty diverse, with about 40% of the population not being white.
I don't think this was an instance of making stuff up. I think it was pure confirmation bias. A story (rumor, really) had the right narrative and while not even bothering to check on its truth, it was halfway around the world while Twain was looking for the other boot.
I thought BLM protests were just shooting galleries for you people.
Huh. Your insight is appreciated. I did in fact assume Nebraska was mostly cornfields and white farmers (exceptions, of course, especially near cities). Mostly it was the wording in the RAICES program.that reinforced my perception, but it may be less Hispanic central than I assumed.