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Does the Shroud of Turin Show Expected Elongation of the Head in 2D?"

zooterkin said:
Oh, not quite true. He's still waiting for you to give him the go-ahead. :D
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Okay, so Jabba awaits my second coming. Ordinary Christian procedure. What's the big deal? Or even the medium deal?

The kids-meal-size deal? With free toy, I trust.
 
bobdroege7 said:
I don't need to argue with name-callers.
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I take it that flounce means that you can't manage to refute the posts about the Codex and the stats, in the same way you couldn't refute the debunking of your limestone claims?
And we're still waiting for your herringbone weave evidence.
 
bobdroege7 said:
I don't need to argue with name-callers.
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Just a short second there. Are you implying that I or any of my disciples have called you "Jabba?" Is your vanity that overwhelming? Your audacity?

Or your ambition? Here, in the sacrosanctity of the Library of the Shroud? Oh! Sir! At last, have you no decency? Have you no shame?

Have you got a 20-spot to see me through to my next welfare check? Say, even 5 bucks would feel pretty good.
 
Every article supporting the True Shroud narrative comes with a catch-22. For instance, the linen deteriorates in temperature and humidity extremes. So even the x-ray boys say:

"Scientists say that the shroud can conclusively be said to be 20 centuries old only if there is further evidence showing the relic was kept safely at an average temperature of about 22C and relative humidity of around 55 per cent for 13 centuries before it emerged."

Which, based on what we know of medieval climate control, is not really possible.
 
Thermal said:
Every article supporting the True Shroud narrative comes with a catch-22. For instance, the linen deteriorates in temperature and humidity extremes. So even the x-ray boys say:

"Scientists say that the shroud can conclusively be said to be 20 centuries old only if there is further evidence showing the relic was kept safely at an average temperature of about 22C and relative humidity of around 55 per cent for 13 centuries before it emerged."

Which, based on what we know of medieval climate control, is not really possible.
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Especially given it was kept in the open in cold, draughty, chapels for centuries.
 
KAJ said:
I really don't have time to go into it, but looking for overlapping confidence intervals (not simple sd multiples) is sometimes, somewhat, related to tests for difference. There's lots on the web about it, try reading (slowly and repeatedly) this link
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Thank you.
 
Mojo said:
This was actually Jabba's claimed position: he didn't believe, but he wanted to, so he was trying to prove that the shroud was genuine (and, elsewhere, that he was immortal).
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And Jabba's "position" was shown to be a lie when we found his website
 
sackett said:
Just a short second there. Are you implying that I or any of my disciples have called you "Jabba?" Is your vanity that overwhelming? Your audacity?

Or your ambition? Here, in the sacrosanctity of the Library of the Shroud? Oh! Sir! At last, have you no decency? Have you no shame?

Have you got a 20-spot to see me through to my next welfare check? Say, even 5 bucks would feel pretty good.
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Nope, not Jabba.

There is still a problem with the heterogeneity of the shroud samples.


And the shroud appeared in 1355, but the range of the radiocarbon dates are 1260 to 1390.

So it's inconclusive.
 
bobdroege7 said:
Nope, not Jabba.

There is still a problem with the heterogeneity of the shroud samples.


And the shroud appeared in 1355, but the range of the radiocarbon dates are 1260 to 1390.

So it's inconclusive.
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I think it's highly indicative, that the samples cluster around the date it's held to have first appeared.

Anyway, what makes you think there was ever any body, alive or dead, inside the shroud?
 
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