theprestige
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It's not even gonna be that. ICE will come, and the resistance will do nothing, because it can do nothing.
So what form does the resistance take?
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TragicMonkey
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ICE? You think it's all about immigration? That's not even in the top ten reasons it might happen.
arthwollipot
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You're kidding me. Raising taxes has always been political suicide in the Republican party.
theprestige
Penultimate Amazing
It's not going to happen. Rebellion? Who are the rebels? What is their cause? Where will they muster and train? Who will feed and arm them? What decisive blows will they aim to strike, to bring down the regime?
Top ten? What's your number one reason it might happen?
Gulliver Foyle
Philosopher
Yeah and Trampy's problems with Atlantic City were easy to fix too. Just do up and properly maintain his original casino, which was making money until he built competition. But Trampy couldn't resist the chance for graft.
He became famous for being a competent and successful businessman when in reality he was nothing but an incompetent reality star.
His competence was a delusion created by means of media manipulation.
The manipulators themselves have described how they did it:
You not only were conned, you are still being conned.
A pity you have to pay to read all of it.
I do take issue with his claim that nobody was conned when they presented Trump as far more successful than was, because it was just “entertainment”. These media types have no decency.
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You won't like this, but "the form of the resistence" should take, I think you mean "took" was the form of many seperate forks to get him removed from office, and thereafter his loss, prevent from running again, and, finally, knocked off the ballot.
These are things that should not be done by one faction against another. Fight against rhetorically. Present a better case. When out of power, fight against unconstitutional actions.
Someone will quickly respond this or that was a legitimate infraction to go after. Well, sort of. They were also exaggerated in service to this goal, were also pursued much harder because he is a political opponent, and the phenomenal number belies it was about punishing an opponent.
These are things that should not be done by one faction against another. Fight against rhetorically. Present a better case. When out of power, fight against unconstitutional actions.
Someone will quickly respond this or that was a legitimate infraction to go after. Well, sort of. They were also exaggerated in service to this goal, were also pursued much harder because he is a political opponent, and the phenomenal number belies it was about punishing an opponent.
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Heritage Foundation President Kevin Roberts / Project 2025, six month before Drumpf took over.
Seems like the left is playing along and keeping it bloodless and successful, so far.
That's the difference between left and right. The right fight like hell and are willing to storm the Capitol when their vision of the country is in danger. The left take the high road, while the pillars keeping the road high up in the air are being demolished with a wrecking ball.
Steve
Penultimate Amazing
Brings to mind a mid European country in the 1930's, doesn't it.
theprestige
Penultimate Amazing
Not really, no.
Nothing is stopping American progressives from owning all the guns they want, forming militias, and fighting the good fight. They would rather just cry about how oppressed they are. Even the Jews of the Warsaw ghetto had more spine than this.
The sad truth is nobody believes your "nazi" rhetoric. Not even the ones spouting it.
esquel
Collector of Meteorites
There are a lot of Nazi-adjacent and sympathizers here that are *holds fingertips half a centimeter apart* this far from ending up on my blocked list. However, I find them useful for keeping track of what the alt-Reich are thinking.
I believe it.
The similarities to how the state is taken over is startling, even if there are significant differences.
theprestige
Penultimate Amazing
You know what the German Socialists did, when they saw this happening to their country? They took to the streets, with bricks and clubs. They fought for real. You don't fight for real, because you don't really believe.
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theprestige
Penultimate Amazing
I'm Gen X, the OG slacker.
Absolute nonsense. There had been brawls between socialists/communists and rightists even before the takeover. When the takeover actually happened, Göring was made minister of interior in Brandenburg (which is where Berlin is), and he promised the police immunity if they killed the socialists, and the massive police violence stopped the demonstrators in their tracks.
It has nothing to do with beliefs. The modern world is shaped by a belief in peaceful protests that simply did not exist in Germany in the 1930’es, and nobody, not the police, and not even Trump’s stormtroopers are actively killing their opposition.
But the way of taking over the state, and undermining the justice system, seeking control of the military, is very much the same.
Trump is promising immunity for federal crimes in his name; he ensures that racists like himself will preside over state employees and grants. His forces are ignoring the rule of law, and his new public attorney has promised to go after his enemies, and will not enforce laws that Trump wants ignored.
Trump is also going to take control of the voting system, so even if there will be new elections, sufficient votes will be found this time to secure Trump all the terms he would like.
And then there is his aggressive foreign policy that is designed to make America great again by stealing lands from weaker states.
Nazi all the way through. Musk seems to have realised it by his “I rip my heart out for the Reich” gesture.
The only thing that can stop him is if he really botches the economy as much as his businesses.
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theprestige
Penultimate Amazing
Exactly. Because American progressives don't believe in rising up and fighting the good fight.
At no point in this story did you actually believe that peaceful protest would stop Trump. And at no point in this story did you make arrangements for the other thing. It was all just empty rhetoric and wishful thinking.
And where are you in the story? Cheering on Trump, cheering on a rebellion, sniping at the rebellion, or cheering on a dystopian future?
I don’t see the value of your argument. Do you think that Trump’s takeover is not similar to the Nazi takeover because progressives are not violent?
You obviously believe in violence, and the progressives do not. In what way does this mean “nobody” believes that Trump’s takeover is similar to Hitler’s? You could argue that Trump has an easier run because of his largely peaceful opposition. Does that make him less Nazi.
I am surprised that you did not mention that antisemitism was an important part of Hitler’s ideology. Obviously, this is not the case for Trumpism, but other internal enemies have been found to be the cause of every problem in the U.S., as you well know: blacks, and women in charge, and illegal immigrants who’ll need papers as extensive as the Aryan passes to prove that they are legally in the U.S.
Funnily enough, Trump is also moving against art that he doesn’t like, exactly like his predecessor in Germany.