What did Democrats do wrong?

[dirtywick]

Gaetz is just one man. If you think its close then lets see the colour of your money

i already told you i’m not interested. the actual numbers would be interesting but ultimately irrelevant to the point i was making, and i’m not going to pay you to produce them nor look for them myself.

 

[Manger Douse]

If Republican voters value protecting women why did they vote for someone who has been proven to abuse women? It's antithetical to that value.

12 million Harris voters didn't turn out in large part because "We've changed the definition of woman, no we wont be explaining it, problem transphobe!?!?" is not a convincing argument

Fact of the matter is that Trumps stopped clock bill does actually protect women - you need to argue why those protections aren't necessary

 

[Manger Douse]

i already told you i’m not interested. the actual numbers would be interesting but ultimately irrelevant to the point i was making, and i’m not going to pay you to produce them nor look for them myself.

The huge overrepresentation of transwomen in committing sexual assaults in indeed interesting and there's an appropriate thread for that a mere few clicks away

 

[dirtywick]

The huge overrepresentation of transwomen in committing sexual assaults in indeed interesting and there's an appropriate thread for that a mere few clicks away

yeah maybe some other time

 

[Manger Douse]

yeah maybe some other time

If you don't want to hand the Republicans an open goal at the next election I'd do that sooner rather than later

 

[Random]

Trump is in the process of destroying the economy and undermining public safety but these freaks are elated because the less than 1% of the population they are obsessed with are being targeted.

If only Democrats had calibrated their messaging to appeal to these voters.

Absolutely! Only by viciously attacking any members of the Democratic coalition that Republicans complain about can Democrats achieve political dominance!

 

[johnny karate]

12 million Harris voters didn't turn out in large part because "We've changed the definition of woman, no we wont be explaining it, problem transphobe!?!?" is not a convincing argument

Fact of the matter is that Trumps stopped clock bill does actually protect women - you need to argue why those protections aren't necessary

You said "Destroying the same-sex safe-space protections of 51% of the population to satisfy the whims of less that 1% of the population is a big reason why you lost and will continue to lose." Are you backing away that now?

 

[dirtywick]

If you don't want to hand the Republicans an open goal at the next election I'd do that sooner rather than later

oh i'll get right on jumping into that thread then lol

 

[Manger Douse]

You said "Destroying the same-sex safe-space protections of 51% of the population to satisfy the whims of less that 1% of the population is a big reason why you lost and will continue to lose." Are you backing away that now?

No. Trumps bill protects women - are you denying that?

 

[Manger Douse]

oh i'll get right on jumping into that thread then lol

Please - assuming you're eligible to vote in USA elections you would be doing the world a favour in doing all you can to prevent Tump

 

[dirtywick]

Please - assuming you're eligible to vote in USA elections you would be doing the world a favour in doing all you can to prevent Tump

well looks like we're doomed

 

[Manger Douse]

well looks like we're doomed

Better that than people admit they might have got it wrong eh?

 

[TragicMonkey]

"Thank goodness," said the handmaid, "that none of those awful trans people are here with us in the Rape Center!" Then she was beaten for speaking aloud without permission from her owner.

 

[johnny karate]

No. Trumps bill protects women - are you denying that?

Great, then we're back to my previous observation: You’ve acknowledged that Republicans and their voters aren’t interested in protecting women but seem to cling to the idea that Democrats lost those voters because they didn’t do enough to keep women safe. That doesn’t make any sense.

You are free to start another thread about this bill you seem to want to make this one about, but to address the question of women's safety, to argue that Republicans are making women safer is laughable. The best you can argue is that Republicans are endangering women in a way that you personally find more palatable.

 

[dirtywick]

Better that than people admit they might have got it wrong eh?

i fee like you’re just saying things to say them. i’ll make it clear, i don’t care about the topic even a tiny amount. i find it to be a tremendous waste of time and endlessly responding to a bunch of bad faith arguments that are occasionally accidentally correct is stupid. if this is the most important thing in america and we’re all doomed if i don’t personally partake in that foolishness, then so be it.

 

[Tero]

But we did not feel their pain.

 

[Manger Douse]

Great, then we're back to my previous observation: You’ve acknowledged that Republicans and their voters aren’t interested in protecting women but seem to cling to the idea that Democrats lost those voters because they didn’t do enough to keep women safe. That doesn’t make any sense.

You are free to start another thread about this bill you seem to want to make this one about, but to address the question of women's safety, to argue that Republicans are making women safer is laughable. The best you can argue is that Republicans are endangering women in a way that you personally find more palatable.

Once again, I said that Republicans aren't interested in protecting women's rights, they are interested in the open goal the Democrats have left them on this issue and why the Democrats lost is the subject of this thread

Fact of the matter is that Trumps stopped clock bill does actually protect women - you need to argue why those protections aren't necessary

 

[Manger Douse]

i fee like you’re just saying things to say them. i’ll make it clear, i don’t care about the topic even a tiny amount. i find it to be a tremendous waste of time and endlessly responding to a bunch of bad faith arguments that are occasionally accidentally correct is stupid. if this is the most important thing in america and we’re all doomed if i don’t personally partake in that foolishness, then so be it.

Republicans will keep kicking the ball in this open goal you've left them

 

[stanfr]

Republicans will keep kicking the ball in this open goal you've left them

Well it's only open, by your own admission, because 'Harris voters' foolishly cut off their nose to spite their face. Should the Dems goal (pun intended) be to correct stupidity? Perhaps, but it would be a major undertaking, a lot bigger than the fascist takeover that we are seeing unfold in real time.

 

[dirtywick]

i think 6 months of these canadian and mexican trade wars and voters will miss a time when you could afford to spend all your time worrying about the trans