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Trump's Second Term

Safe-Keeper said:
It'd be hilarious if Musk changed their username to Bruce.
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Careful, now!
No, it wouldn't be hilarious. Not really. One of the problems with the FAFO Schadenfreude is that it doesn't do much to make people understand what's happening.
I saw one FAFO post - I think it was on Twitter* - where a Mexican immigrant, a Trump fan, in Texas complained that his brown children were being harassed by white kids, and people rejoiced that it was happening even though the immigrant's kids were the real victims, and they didn't (couldn't even) vote for Trump.
Help people like Jenner understand what they've been doing wrong.
The immigrant in Texas was just about to discover that he had actually FAFO'ed. Make them part of the resistance instead of enemies.

People like this are allies: Convicted US Capitol rioter turns down Trump pardon (BBC, Jan 22, 2025) She FAFO'ed and knows that the did.
Help them make the transition from naïve and now disillusioned Trump victims to enemies of Trump.
I don't have much hope for Jenner in this respect, but the vast majority of transsexuals won't be in the privileged position Jenner is in.

* ETA: It occurs to me that it may have been a Dark Brandon video with several FAFO stories. Or it may have been MeidasTouch.
 
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Speaker of the House Mike Johnson launched a new congressional subcommittee today to investigate what led to the 6 January attack on the US Capitol in 2021.

"House Republicans are proud of our work exposing the false narratives peddled by the politically motivated Jan. 6 Select Committee, but there's more to be done," Johnson said on social media.

Johnson said the subcommittee will "continue our efforts to uncover the full truth".
 
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Trump orders troops to US-Mexico border as part of immigration crackdown.

He's signed a new EO to instruct the Justice Department, State Department and Homeland Security - to "immediately repel, repatriate and remove illegal aliens" across the southern border.
 
Andy_Ross said:
Trump's order on Birth right Citizenship orders agencies not to recognize babies as citizens if their mothers were "unlawfully present" at the time of birth and their father was not a U.S. citizen or a lawful permanent resident.
It also applies to children born to mothers who were lawful, temporary residents and fathers who were not citizens or lawful permanent residents.
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Doesn't this violate the Constitution? I'm thinking of Amendment 14 s. 1

"Section. 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."
 
Andy_Ross said:
Speaker of the House Mike Johnson launched a new congressional subcommittee today to investigate what led to the 6 January attack on the US Capitol in 2021.

"House Republicans are proud of our work exposing the false narratives peddled by the politically motivated Jan. 6 Select Committee, but there's more to be done," Johnson said on social media.

Johnson said the subcommittee will "continue our efforts to uncover the full truth".
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So it will soon have been Antifa, after all. Except that ... Who are the 1,500 pardoned prisoners, then?! They must all have been the naïve victims of the Antifa woman mentioned in post 2,342.
 
Pacal said:
Doesn't this violate the Constitution? I'm thinking of Amendment 14 s. 1

"Section. 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."
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That was the old Constitution! Not the new and improved Trump Constitution.
 
dann said:
Careful, now!
No, it wouldn't be hilarious. Not really. One of the problems with the FAFO Schadenfreude is that it doesn't do much to make people understand what's happening.
I saw one FAFO post - I think it was on Twitter - where a Mexican immigrant, a Trump fan, in Texas complained that his brown children were being harassed by white kids, and people rejoiced that it was happening even though the immigrant's kids were the real victims, and they didn't (couldn't even) vote for Trump.
Help people like Jenner understand what they've been doing wrong.
The immigrant in Texas was just about to discover that he had actually FAFO'ed. Make them part of the resistance instead of enemies.

People like this are allies: Convicted US Capitol rioter turns down Trump pardon (BBC, Jan 22, 2025) She FAFO'ed and knows that the did.
Help them make the transition from naïve and now disillusioned Trump victims to enemies of Trump.
I don't have much hope for Jenner in this respect, but the vast majority of transsexuals won't be in the privileged position Jenner is in.
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Possibly? I was in the process of typing a post that basically said "no ◊◊◊◊ them they chose this", but now that we increasingly look at them as a cult, I don't know, what do sect members do when their cult turns on them? Do they get disillusioned or do they double down to regain the good favour of their Leader? Maybe reaching out to them with a gentle 'see, they don't really care about you, come to the light side' works better than ridicule and Schadenfreude? That requires a level of patience and compassion I don't have with them right now, but maybe further down the road.

I'd still love for Twitter to change their username, though.
 
Norman Alexander said:
It's the Babylon Bee, so meh.

Looks like an inverse confabulation. There were people chanting "Death to Israel!". So they were labelled as liberals. But we're they really liberals?
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Well, they may have been. There were certainly people in protests who consider themselves 'liberals' who were making chants like that--a small minority who believe all Jews have been tainted by the 'evil of Zionism' The problem with the (il)logic in Sir-drinks alot's meme is that same minority most definitely would not be screaming 'Nazi' at Musk--they would fully support Musk's anti-semetic views about Jews controlling various institutions.
 
I think I owe an apology to Brainster.

I mocked them for making up a "figuratively rip out your heart and toss it to the crowd" gesture to deny Elon Musk's very clear and obvious Nazi salute.

However, I did a little research and found examples of everyday, hard-working Americans performing that exact same gesture and must now admit I was wrong. Apparently, the "figuratively rip out your heart and toss it to the crowd" gesture is particularly common among men's social clubs who wear delightful matching outfits. It's merely an expression of goodwill and kinship, exactly like what Elon Musk did at Trump's inauguration.

Sorry about that, Brainster!
 
johnny karate said:
I think I owe an apology to Brainster.

I mocked them for making up a "figuratively rip out your heart and toss it to the crowd" gesture to deny Elon Musk's very clear and obvious Nazi salute.

However, I did a little research and found examples of everyday, hard-working Americans performing that exact same gesture and must now admit I was wrong. Apparently, the "figuratively rip out your heart and toss it to the crowd" gesture is particularly common among men's social clubs who wear delightful matching outfits. It's merely an expression of goodwill and kinship, exactly like what Elon Musk did at Trump's inauguration.

Sorry about that, Brainster!
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Thanks. Good to have those videos to link to.
 
Pacal said:
Doesn't this violate the Constitution? I'm thinking of Amendment 14 s. 1

"Section. 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws
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Every expert has said you need to amend the constiutuion to end "Anchor Citizenship". And I think Trump probably knows this. But it sounds good to his cult members.
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No, they get paid a flat salary. But it helps them to look like they are doing something useful by appearing on camera and asking questions. It's pretty rare that these sorts of hearings actually change anything though.
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And if are on some commitees, it makes it easier to get federal money for your disteict. Good old Pork.
 
Pacal said:
Doesn't this violate the Constitution? I'm thinking of Amendment 14 s. 1

"Section. 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."
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It would, except that the ruling monarch can over-ride the constitution by issuing executive orders.
 
I don't like Musk very much, but I really think the Nazi Salute was unintentional. He is given to wild gestures when ot a platform.
BTW more signs that the Trump/Musk bromance will not be long lived.
IMHO< he will get bored with DOGE, and move on to something else.
 
Elon posted

What can I say? I got caught up in the moment. But it wasn't a "seig heil." Why would I pledge allegiance to a nation 80 years dead? Why would I lionize a subdued and failed state? MAGA is the future, and will, in fact, succeed in all the ways Nazi Germany failed to
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Succeed in all the ways Nazi Germany failed to?


MAGA's 4th Reich will 'succeed' where the Nazi's failed
 
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i agree that a sig heil is a pretty wild gesture.

idk why you guys constantly roll out the red benefit of the doubt carpet to these sociopathic dorks that are constantly doing the worst stuff with absolutely no shame or remorse. musk has done equally bad stuff dozens of times.

and who doesn’t know what a sig heil is anyway. the guys supposed to be a genius and he’s marching around sig heiling after spending the last few years making sure nazis felt respected on twitter and you’re just like “well idk maybe he has some kind of palsy” just stop it
 
dudalb said:
I don't like Musk very much, but I really think the Nazi Salute was unintentional. He is given to wild gestures when ot a platform.
BTW more signs that the Trump/Musk bromance will not be long lived.
IMHO< he will get bored with DOGE, and move on to something else.
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Even if it was 'unintentional'--and I highly doubt it, given his track record of 'unintentionally' posting outright lies and misinformation, and the fact that he was literally shamed into visiting Auschwitz only to promptly return to his string of anti-semetic posts--it was so far beyond tone deaf that he deserves as much scorn and condemnation as he would deserve if entirely intentional.
 
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