Resistance Twitter 2.0

Where will the resistance end up posting, mostly?

  • Bluesky

    Votes: 16 72.7%

  • Threads

    Votes: 1 4.5%

  • Mastodon

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Other (please specify in comments)

    Votes: 2 9.1%

  • On Planet X, we resist telepathically

    Votes: 3 13.6%
  • Total voters
    22
  • Poll closed .
Yeah a blocklist that blocked everyone following a certain media company is considerably too far. But consider this. You have been blocked by people who think The Economist is extremist. Do you care, really?
 
arthwollipot said:
Yeah a blocklist that blocked everyone following a certain media company is considerably too far. But consider this. You have been blocked by people who think The Economist is extremist. Do you care, really?
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Yes and no. I think the only way to counter hate is with respectful disagreement and discussion. OTOH, people who are already that far gone down the rabbit hole are probably not worth the effort.

The upshot is that these hateful people will cloister themselves into their own little incubators of hate while the rest of the community moves on. They are not helping their cause or drawing anyone to it with their actions which is sad because although trans rights are not a major concern of mine, I do find myself mostly on the same side of the aisle as they are.
 
Orphia Nay said:
Really? Is that all they said?
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Apparently they also briefly suspended the author and then reinstated his account and have now removed the intolerant labels after more consideration.

Bsky is at an inflection point I think. The major influx of new users has overwhelmed their moderation teams and being funded by angel investors with a mission to be a public interest company, they will have difficulty scaling moderation up fast enough. Hopefully they can figure it out on the fly before more considered voices like mine just decide to pack it in. It already seems like the momentum is seriously slowing down.
 
LiteBright said:
Bsky is at an inflection point I think. The major influx of new users has overwhelmed their moderation teams and being funded by angel investors with a mission to be a public interest company, they will have difficulty scaling moderation up fast enough.
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Much of old guard don't want the influx of new users; they want to conserve the safe space they built.

https://bsky.app/profile/transcinderella.com/post/3lc7uzc4c3227

https://bsky.app/profile/thedoomshine.social/post/3lco2bguanc2e

https://bsky.app/profile/limeyemily.bsky.social/post/3lcpstvh37227

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Hopefully they can figure it out on the fly before more considered voices like mine just decide to pack it in.
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I'm good either way.
 
Well that escalated quickly. It seems like people simply copy and paste users from one block list to another, essentially weaponizing them. 24 hours later, I am now being blocked by over 1500 accounts and am on no less than 57 different block lists on Bsky.

Including, but not limited to...
  • Dog Brains and Piss Drinkers - Don't think I qualify as either but opinions may vary
  • Gamer Gaters - I'm aware of gamer gate but never posted about it or anything remotely related
  • British Bigots - I am neither British nor a bigot
  • Debate Me Bros - I have posted <20 times and never asked anyone to discuss or debate anything
  • Bigoted Freaks and Centerists - Bigoted? No. Centerist? No. Freak? Debatable.
  • Capitalism apologists - I have posted a few times regarding economic issues so maybe this is deserved? I don't know.
  • Transphobes and Bigots - I am neither
  • Twitter Trolls - not a very good troll with only 20 posts
  • Hate Enablers
  • Known Pedophiles
All this for *checks notes* following 'the Economist'.

Now its not that I mind people blocking me or curating their own feed in any way they please. In fact, I'd prefer that these hateful animals block me so I don't have to be subjected to their nonsense. But adding me to a list of "known pedophiles" simply for following a media organization that published an article they don't like? That's a bridge too far.

I've noticed several of the beat reporters I follow that are important to my work initially joined BSky but have since stopped posting or left altogether. I am going to join them. I'm not comfortable posting on a platform where I am also on a curated list of pedophiles. Thank goodness I didn't put anything personally identifying in my profile.
 
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LiteBright said:
Well that escalated quickly. It seems like people simply copy and paste users from one block list to another, essentially weaponizing them. 24 hours later, I am now being blocked by over 1500 accounts and am on no less than 57 different block lists on Bsky.

Including, but not limited to...
  • Dog Brains and Piss Drinkers - Don't think I qualify as either but opinions may vary
  • Gamer Gaters - I'm aware of gamer gate but never posted about it or anything remotely related
  • British Bigots - I am neither British nor a bigot
  • Debate Me Bros - I have posted <20 times and never asked anyone to discuss or debate anything
  • Bigoted Freaks and Centerists - Bigoted? No. Centerist? No. Freak? Debatable.
  • Capitalism apologists - I have posted a few times regarding economic issues so maybe this is deserved? I don't know.
  • Transphobes and Bigots - I am neither
  • Twitter Trolls - not a very good troll with only 20 posts
  • Hate Enablers
  • Known Pedophiles
All this for *checks notes* following 'the Economist'.

Now its not that I mind people blocking me or curating their own feed in any way they please. In fact, I'd prefer that these hateful animals block me so I don't have to be subjected to their nonsense. But adding me to a list of "known pedophiles" simply for following a media organization that published an article they don't like? That's a bridge too far.

I've noticed several of the beat reporters I follow that are important to my work initially joined BSky but have since stopped posting or left altogether. I am going to join them. I'm not comfortable posting on a platform where I am also on a curated list of pedophiles. Thank goodness I didn't put anything personally identifying in my profile.
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How do you find out if you're on a blocklist? And how did you establish it was the following of the Economist that put you on these?
 
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zooterkin said:
How do you find out if you're on a blocklist? And how did you establish it was the following of the Economist that put you on these?
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There is a site called clearsky that you can use to see your block stats on Bsky. It shows you who is blocking you and the block lists you are part of.

I first noticed I was being blocked by a few dozen accounts which I found odd considering I had barely used the platform at that point. So I created a sock account to have a look at some of the accounts who were blocking me and there found a trans woman who was encouraging her followers to block followers of the economist and this writer, Jesse Singal who had angered the TRA community so much. At that point I was following the economist but not Singal himself so I deduced that it was that connection that was getting me blocked by some of her followers. She even created a specific block list for economist followers (since deleted) that was called something to the effect of 'capitalist pigs'.

Then I looked up this Singal person and made the mistake of following him on my main account to get a sense of what the controversy was all about. Following him opened the flood gates and as of this morning I am now blocked by over 2000 accounts and am on 67 block lists even though I stopped following him a few days later.

To be clear, I have never posted one single thing about the trans community, either pro or con. Every one of my posts on BSky has to do with either sports or economics. But according to the hate mob I am a pedophile who is responsible for multiple genocides. I've been told to kill myself numerous times. I'm really at a loss as to how these people think they are helping win hearts and minds to their cause with this sort of behaviour.

At this point, all I can do is laugh. As toxic as twitter can be, the abuse I have had hurled at me on BSky is orders of magnitude worse. I'm not going back to twitter because I can't stomach supporting Musk. As for BSky, I'm torn on whether to stay and try to help create a community that is free from this type of nonsense or just throw my hands up and leave.
 
I think you underestimate how casually people will create blocklists or name blocklists something atrocious. It's a problem if anyone takes the title of some rando's blocklist as anything but someone's expressive whim.

Being on 64 low-effort blocklists mostly means that some people make and collect blocklists as a hobby. What you really want is data on how many people USE these blocklists. ETA oh I missed where you said ~2000. That doesn't really seem like a crazy number considering how easy it is for bored, overengaged social media types to overindulge in plonk. It only takes one mid-popular blogger who hates the Economist's editorial and reccommends a blanket block list to their fans, to do that.

I DO think it's ◊◊◊◊◊◊ and unfortunate how common 'kill yourself' has been normalised over the last decade or so. Kids write it on custom mugs as a joke for their actual friends. It bothers me. People say it over things that my peers would just give a hearty 'f you' about. Yells at cloud
 
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Lithrael said:
I DO think it's ◊◊◊◊◊◊ and unfortunate how common 'kill yourself' has been normalised over the last decade or so. Kids write it on custom mugs as a joke for their actual friends. It bothers me. People say it over things that my peers would just give a hearty 'f you' about. Yells at cloud
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Saying that is an instaban on this forum.
 
It's the same thing with death threats. They used to mean something but they are so commonplace for public figures they lose all meaning. I mean, who isn't getting death threats these days?
 
LiteBright said:
It's the same thing with death threats. They used to mean something but they are so commonplace for public figures they lose all meaning. I mean, who isn't getting death threats these days?
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Ah, but then when someone follows through it fills the news for a whole week! Such a fuss. Babies.
 
LiteBright said:
There is a site called clearsky that you can use to see your block stats on Bsky. It shows you who is blocking you and the block lists you are part of.

I first noticed I was being blocked by a few dozen accounts which I found odd considering I had barely used the platform at that point. So I created a sock account to have a look at some of the accounts who were blocking me and there found a trans woman who was encouraging her followers to block followers of the economist and this writer, Jesse Singal who had angered the TRA community so much. At that point I was following the economist but not Singal himself so I deduced that it was that connection that was getting me blocked by some of her followers. She even created a specific block list for economist followers (since deleted) that was called something to the effect of 'capitalist pigs'.

Then I looked up this Singal person and made the mistake of following him on my main account to get a sense of what the controversy was all about. Following him opened the flood gates and as of this morning I am now blocked by over 2000 accounts and am on 67 block lists even though I stopped following him a few days later.

To be clear, I have never posted one single thing about the trans community, either pro or con. Every one of my posts on BSky has to do with either sports or economics. But according to the hate mob I am a pedophile who is responsible for multiple genocides. I've been told to kill myself numerous times. I'm really at a loss as to how these people think they are helping win hearts and minds to their cause with this sort of behaviour.

At this point, all I can do is laugh. As toxic as twitter can be, the abuse I have had hurled at me on BSky is orders of magnitude worse. I'm not going back to twitter because I can't stomach supporting Musk. As for BSky, I'm torn on whether to stay and try to help create a community that is free from this type of nonsense or just throw my hands up and leave.
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Okay, this reads like something out of an absurdist Jason Pargin novel. I only have your word for this, of course, but 2024 and certain people being what they are, it doesn't even sound surprising to me.
 
Also, that pedophile thing is so uncalled for. Some time ago the Norwegian branch of Save the Children held an event during Pride where they invited kids for a Pride event, with free snacks and beverages and a drag show. Some deranged far-righter decided that between the drag show and the free food and drinks, it must be a sinister LGBTQ+ ploy to groom the kids and posted some hysterical comments in a comments thread about how StC received literal death threats. I made the mistake of ridiculing him for this later on by calling him out on how he disregarded all the horrible things Drumpf and others did, but was terrified of LGBT events, and he very publicly (in the comments thread, where we post under full names) accused me of 'promoting sexualization of children'.

I wrote a reply where I patiently explained that I've of course never promoted sexualization of children and that the context was that I trolled him once for thinking Save the Children (of all people!) wanted to groom children, but that was actually genuinely scary. I mean, I haven't received threats or angry messages or anything, and I think 99% of people reading the exchange won't take his ramblings seriously (he even accused me of removing comments when moderators started culling his rants, as if I had some sort of magical hacking powers on that news website), but still, that was scary. Some people are just bat ◊◊◊◊ crazy.

Also, it's one of those things that I fear will make actual accusations of SA mean less. The more that word is used as a weaponized insult, the less people will take actual accusations seriously.
 
LiteBright said:
It's the same thing with death threats. They used to mean something but they are so commonplace for public figures they lose all meaning. I mean, who isn't getting death threats these days?
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I decided to spend some time on bluesky this weekend while tending to a sick dog. I can tell you that your experience and mine are nothing alike. I saw several posts calling people "lib tards", swearing at them, etc. and it certainly wasn't one-sided. It's not like "the libs" were getting in jabs and the righties just had to sit back and accept it. There was mild trolling by both sides, but I saw plenty of anti-vax and pro-Trump stuff all over the site.

I didn't see any death threats anywhere at all. I saw a bunch of people implying that they wouldn't be losing sleep if others died, but I can absolutely say the experience you and I had on bluesky was very, very different. Polar opposite, in fact.
 
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Oh I agree completely with you there, but unfortunately that cat is well out of the bag. Between casual insult use, a nervous-horse-like prescision at identifying genuine threats, and the weird teen purity culture 3.0 that's going around now (16/18 is pedophilia! 20/23 is pedophilia! 40/50 is basically pedophilia too! Two people dating who LOOK like they could be siblings is incest! Writing smut about a character that was once a kid after he's grown up is pedophilia! I'm calling the cops on your fanfiction!) identifying and dealing with genuine abuse just gets more and more difficult. And splash damage to completely unrelated persons gets more likely.
 
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