Dabop
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Never a good idea to rely on just the phone btw- what happens if your phone goes flat???
Cont: Luton Airport Car Park Fire IV
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Never a good idea to rely on just the phone btw- what happens if your phone goes flat???
Steve
Penultimate Amazing
Never a good idea to rely on just the phone btw- what happens if your phone goes flat???
Which does happen to me on occasion. The fob for my Venza contains a small physical key that I have used to unlock and start the car when my fob battery has died. Old tech still has its place
Here_to_learn
Illuminator
Same things as if the fob stops working, except that you can charge a phone anywhere today, while a fob requires finding the correct battery type.Never a good idea to rely on just the phone btw- what happens if your phone goes flat???
With a Tesla you have a credit card sized spare key with you.
Steve
Penultimate Amazing
Not necessarily - see above. Toyota dealer sells fob batteries for about $8 and it takes less than a minute to replace and return the fob to fully functional.
Andy_Ross
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Not much use when the dealer is 30 miles away
Yup, and 'recharge your phone anywhere' is not much use when you're in a multi-storey car park, to name but one tricky place.
What the hell is wrong with having a fob with a flip-out manual key?
Steve
Penultimate Amazing
More useful than being 30 miles from home with a dead phone and no options to unlock and start your car. Call for roadside assistance? How?
Plan ahead. Splurge and spend $8 when you are there, or order it on line, and save it for when you might need it. You can even keep it right there in the car that you can unlock with the backup key in your fob.
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Steve
Penultimate Amazing
I have no issue with people using a phone for car functions. It obviously works fine for many. For myself I never leave the house without carrying some keys anyway so having a fob attached to them is no inconvenience at all. For car operations you just push a button, the same as with a phone. And with only 3 buttons I don't even have to take it out of my pocket to look at a sceen.
Steve
Penultimate Amazing
My last car that required a key was ten years ago. I have used the backup key in my fob twice in that time.
JayUtah
Penultimate Amazing
Nonsense. Your whole post-report argument has been to figure out some new way in which you're still right.
You're Curious Turkey, remember?
No, your critics are not "rattled" at your claims to superior acumen. See all the laughing-dog GIFs? We're laughing at the magical thinking you have to employ now to show us you're still somehow right.
Asked and answered. You are not qualified to determine whether this report is inappropriate or to what degree the experts have drawn conclusions inappropriately.
This is an appropriate response. It has nothing to do with your handwaving about the color of flames or your ignorant waffling about "blind registers" or whether Rishi Sunak was leaning on the fire department. You are irrelevant. You are not important. You are not the smartest turkey in the barnyard.
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JayUtah
Penultimate Amazing
No. You're not an authority.
JayUtah
Penultimate Amazing
"My car is magically different than everyone else's."
Give us the make, model, and year. I believe that according to you, that's the customary required information.
JayUtah
Penultimate Amazing
And here we continue with the one-sentence brush-offs to a thorough addressing of your post-report argument.
Note how it systematically lists each one of the claims or insinuations of anomaly you have made regarding the report or what the report does not address. Note how I showed how each requires the reader to evaluate the basis of the claim, and that the basis in all cases is presumptively accepting you as an expert on the relevant points.
But sure, keep pretending you're being picked on.
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JayUtah
Penultimate Amazing
Asked and answered. A necessary consequent to your conspiracy theory is that the fire services are either lying or incompetent as regards the fuel type of the initial vehicle in the Luton fire. You seem to have precluded their incompetence, so we're left with the other consequent. That you refuse to take responsibility for the implications of your claims doesn't avail you.
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This is not correct. I had a 2009 Mercury Mariner hybrid that always started with the gas engine, and would only drop to electric-only in certain driving conditions.
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JayUtah
Penultimate Amazing
Granted that, do you think you would notice when it switched to electric-only operation?
Dabop
Master Poster
Carrying a fob means you have a spare key with you already if your fob goes flat- (which rarely happens more than once or twice in half a decade), so you can still open the car and start it...
Your phone on the other hand- how many can say that they have never had a phone go flat in that time period??? (and there's no spare key tucked away in your phone....)
Your phone on the other hand- how many can say that they have never had a phone go flat in that time period??? (and there's no spare key tucked away in your phone....)
Rolfe
Adult human female
I'm moderately convinced Vixen has a simple petrol-only car, she just thinks it's a hybrid.