Cont: Luton Airport Car Park Fire IV

[Craig4]

The report will be about what caused the fire to spread and its recommendations (Building Regs and Fire Safety) for future high turnover public car parks. Like the Liverpool Fire it won't be about the car that started it. It likely will not state the make model and year of the car. As we know, this already appears to be classified information.

Why do you need to know what the make and model of the vehicle was? It's not as if there is any doubt that it was a conventional diesel.

 

[Carrot Flower King]

Excellent explanation overall, but nitpick: "Confidential" is a classification.

Not in the UK: official, secret and top secret, as posted earlier.

 

[Carrot Flower King]

For goodness sake, when I said 'classified' I was being sardonic. _DUH.

Oooooooh, "sardonic" is it?

Not litotes, nor bathos, nor dramatic irony, nor, heaven forfend, sarcasm?

And how, after all the other claims about information being concealed because reasons, were any of us supposed to differentiate that particular post?

Mebbe I need to consult an undercover police psychic...

 

[GlennB]

For goodness sake, when I said 'classified' I was being sardonic. _DUH.

My arse.

 

[Steve]

For goodness sake, when I said 'classified' I was being sardonic. _DUH.

:

 

[Andy_Ross]

Oooooooh, "sardonic" is it?

Not litotes, nor bathos, nor dramatic irony, nor, heaven forfend, sarcasm?

And how, after all the other claims about information being concealed because reasons, were any of us supposed to differentiate that particular post?

Mebbe I need to consult an undercover police psychic...

What did she do? He used sarcasm. She knew all the tricks, dramatic irony, metaphor, bathos, puns, parody, litotes and satire.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

Not in the UK: official, secret and top secret, as posted earlier.

I'm quite fond of the old fashioned "most secret".

 

[Steve]

What did she do? He used sarcasm. She knew all the tricks, dramatic irony, metaphor, bathos, puns, parody, litotes and satire.

Everyone was terrified of Doug!

 

[JayUtah]

For goodness sake, when I said 'classified' I was being sardonic. _DUH.

Oh, dear. The time to claim you were being sardonic is before you were challenged and seriously tried (but failed) to support your claim with evidence—not after. As others have noted, it's nearly impossible to tell when you're being sardonic amid all the times when you're just persistently, incorrigibly wrong.

 

[JayUtah]

What did she do? He used sarcasm. She knew all the tricks, dramatic irony, metaphor, bathos, puns, parody, litotes and satire.

And then she bravely ran away.

 

[Reformed Offlian]

Not in the UK: official, secret and top secret, as posted earlier.

Ah, OK. Interesting. Thanks.

 

[P.J. Denyer]

Not in the UK: official, secret and top secret, as posted earlier.

Or "In Front of the Domestic Staff", "At Dinner Parties" (the right sort obviously) and "The Chaps at the Club Only".

 

[Jack by the hedge]

Or "In Front of the Domestic Staff", "At Dinner Parties" (the right sort obviously) and "The Chaps at the Club Only".

The last of these would be the highest level of course.

I'd long ago heard the story that the British stopped using Most Secret as the highest classification due to wartime collaboration with the US, where the term got misunderstood as some kind of lower-level "mostly secret" thing, and they adopted the US term Top Secret to avoid such misunderstandings.

Wasn't sure if it was a true story until I read Prof R.V. Jones's "Most Secret War" where he mentions it. I guess the clue is in the title.

 

[catsmate]

I'm quite fond of the old fashioned "most secret".

What about TOP SECRET - GUARD

 

[Vixen]

Why do you need to know what the make and model of the vehicle was? It's not as if there is any doubt that it was a conventional diesel.

I can't see why the information cannot be released, given it is conventional in the British media to provide it as a matter of course, along the same lines as revealing age and gender of the various individual subjects of their news items. It's not something normally covered by privacy laws. Beds F&R Service has confirmed it was an accidental fire so it is not as if there is a crime scene which would trigger a news blackout, whilst under police investigation, as per press code of conduct.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

What about TOP SECRET - GUARD

I hadn't heard of that one, but it reminds me the RAF used to add a G on the end of a plane's number to mean it had secret tech aboard so had to have an armed guard at all times on the ground.

 

[autumn1971]

I hadn't heard of that one, but it reminds me the RAF used to add a G on the end of a plane's number to mean it had secret tech aboard so had to have an armed guard at all times on the ground.

What about “TOP SECRET!”
Ya know, the one with the cows

 

[catsmate]

I hadn't heard of that one, but it reminds me the RAF used to add a G on the end of a plane's number to mean it had secret tech aboard so had to have an armed guard at all times on the ground.

It's obsolete now but used to used for documents regarding, for example, nuclear weapons, back in the old days. Mainly for material not being shared with the USA.

 

[Vixen]

I hadn't heard of that one, but it reminds me the RAF used to add a G on the end of a plane's number to mean it had secret tech aboard so had to have an armed guard at all times on the ground.

The 'top secret' missives* sent out by my father's RAF Wing Commander were simply marked, 'Confidential'.

*This was understood as being that it was strictly not for dissemination or publication, nor for the eyes of the hoi-polloi. These days every superlative has to be embellished. But back then, an absolute was an absolute. Or as one might say today, 'Very absolutely absolute'.

Notandum: it is possible - even probable - there were missives even more confidential not for his eyes.

 

[JayUtah]

I can't see why the information cannot be released...

You were given the reason.

...given it is conventional in the British media to provide it as a matter of course...

You failed to prove this.

Beds F&R Service has confirmed it was an accidental fire so it is not as if there is a crime scene which would trigger a news blackout, whilst under police investigation, as per press code of conduct.

You were given the reason. Your desire to imagine a different one or to spin some kind of nefarious omission is irrelevant.