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Kamala Harris Election Campaign

JoeMorgue said:
Does Trump think (and yes I could just stop there because the answer is no) that Presidents are THAT hands on? That the President is the one working out the street level nuts and bolts?

99% of being a good President is knowing how to pick good people and surround yourself with them.
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Dude only has six functioning brain cells, he's not hard to figure out. He knows the job of boss is to hire people to do his actual work. If they do well, it's his credit for not firing them. If they fail, it's their own failure. That's inverted when it's someone he doesn't like doing it, as in this case.
 
pgwenthold said:
I've said this before, there is no such thing as some secret alternative healthcare plan (that is serious). Something as significant as a national healthcare plan is going to come out of academic work or political thinktanks. It takes a lot of planning and a lot of work by a lot of people to come up with plans like this.

The ACA wasn't developed by Obama. The concept had been postulated and discussed (and even tried) long before it came to that point.

Any attempt on healthcare is going to do that. It's not made in secret by a presidential staff.
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Trump has come up with a new plan and it's a corker.

The people who work overtime are among the hardest working citizens in our country. When you pass 40 hours a week, your overtime hours will be tax free.
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As has been pointed out, look forward to CEOs being paid minimum wage for the first 40 hours per week and 100k per hour after that
 
Yes, Trump is a boss, not a leader. What he knows how to do is to tell someone "do this" and leave it to them (Ross Perot was the same). So his "concept" of a plan is that he is going to tell someone to fix it. Of course, his problem is, he doesn't actually know people who can do it, so when he says fix it, he's going to tell his kids and let them delegate it to someone.

That's his concept - "I'm putting Barron in charge."

It's not a plan for how to do anything - he's the boss he doesn't worry about that.

The problem is, there's not some secret Healthcare plan out there to solve this. Trump doesn't have it, Barron doesn't have it. If there any actual option, real, serious people would be talking about them.
 
pgwenthold said:
I've said this before, there is no such thing as some secret alternative healthcare plan (that is serious). Something as significant as a national healthcare plan is going to come out of academic work or political thinktanks. It takes a lot of planning and a lot of work by a lot of people to come up with plans like this.

The ACA wasn't developed by Obama. The concept had been postulated and discussed (and even tried) long before it came to that point.

Any attempt on healthcare is going to do that. It's not made in secret by a presidential staff.
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The US could get close to universal health care by changing one line in the Medicare authorization law, making the minimum age for medicare 0.

To reach fully universal health coverage a few tweaks to the medicaid laws would be needed.
 
For sure, but it's not like "Medicare for all" is some profound, secret plan. If that's your plan, then it's easy to propose and you don't hide it with a "concept"

I don't want to distract the thread talking about Healthcare, but just want to point out, there's no secret plan waiting to be unveiled. Any real options have at least been presented somewhere
 
pgwenthold said:
For sure, but it's not like "Medicare for all" is some profound, secret plan. If that's your plan, then it's easy to propose and you don't hide it with a "concept"

I don't want to distract the thread talking about Healthcare, but just want to point out, there's no secret plan waiting to be unveiled in two weeks time. Any real options have at least been presented somewhere
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FTFY :D
 
I guess the summer of 2017 and AHCA/Ryancare/trumpcare really is such a distant memory, or trump could have raised that as a fleshed out proposal.

Then again, he would have had to remember what it contained...
 
pgwenthold said:
Yes, Trump is a boss, not a leader. What he knows how to do is to tell someone "do this" and leave it to them (Ross Perot was the same). So his "concept" of a plan is that he is going to tell someone to fix it. Of course, his problem is, he doesn't actually know people who can do it, so when he says fix it, he's going to tell his kids and let them delegate it to someone.

That's his concept - "I'm putting Barron in charge."

It's not a plan for how to do anything - he's the boss he doesn't worry about that.

The problem is, there's not some secret Healthcare plan out there to solve this. Trump doesn't have it, Barron doesn't have it. If there any actual option, real, serious people would be talking about them.
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Actually, telling people what you want done and leaving them alone to do it is a standard of modern managment.
Problem is Trump is clueless as who he picks to do something.
 
pgwenthold said:
For sure, but it's not like "Medicare for all" is some profound, secret plan. If that's your plan, then it's easy to propose and you don't hide it with a "concept"

I don't want to distract the thread talking about Healthcare, but just want to point out, there's no secret plan waiting to be unveiled. Any real options have at least been presented somewhere
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I don't think it's a distraction. Trump tried to overturn ACA/Obamacare but failed. You could remember the infamous McCain thumb down vote. It is popular, and now he's realizing it.

As you say, he has no plan, but won't try to repeal it unless/until something better is proposed. What that is, who the hell knows.
 
The Harris campaign is pursuing a strategy of going after voters in smaller cities and rural areas in the battleground states, rather than just hitting Philly, Atlanta, Detroit and Phoenix (which was apparently the Biden camp's plan). They realize she probably won't win those areas, but if she can hold Trump's margin in the sticks down, she can eke out a win with her relative strength in the major urban areas.

After Trump’s victory in 2016, Democrats forged a deliberate strategy of trying to limit their losses in Republican-leaning areas. But President Joe Biden strayed from that approach earlier this year, focusing mainly on major cities as he tried to repair his problems with the Democratic base. Now, a POLITICO analysis shows, Harris is returning her attention to a different set of redder areas — in campaign swings and advertising — a shift that underscores her unique strengths and challenges relative to him.
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Given that most of Kamala's campaign staff are holdovers from Biden, I suspect the real reason she's doing much more is her energy level.

Overall I like the strategy as it applies to the battlegrounds and especially to Pennsylvania.
 
Brainster said:
The Harris campaign is pursuing a strategy of going after voters in smaller cities and rural areas in the battleground states, rather than just hitting Philly, Atlanta, Detroit and Phoenix (which was apparently the Biden camp's plan). They realize she probably won't win those areas, but if she can hold Trump's margin in the sticks down, she can eke out a win with her relative strength in the major urban areas.
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Smart.
 
pgwenthold said:
For sure, but it's not like "Medicare for all" is some profound, secret plan. If that's your plan, then it's easy to propose and you don't hide it with a "concept"

I don't want to distract the thread talking about Healthcare, but just want to point out, there's no secret plan waiting to be unveiled. Any real options have at least been presented somewhere
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Why wouldn't Trump announce that as his plan?

He already announced an IVF mandate for insurance companies, so he not adverse to doing things so-called conservatives hate.

Private insurance companies would likely welcome it, because Medicare has basically been turned over to them and the rules are not as restrictive as AFCA.

If Trump is planning that, then it is indeed secret and would be profound.

What would happen if he did?
 
PitPat said:
I don't think it's a distraction. Trump tried to overturn ACA/Obamacare but failed. You could remember the infamous McCain thumb down vote. It is popular, and now he's realizing it.

As you say, he has no plan, but won't try to repeal it unless/until something better is proposed, or he has someone else to blame when the ACA is repealed with no replacement What that is, who the hell knows.
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FTFY
 
CarbShark said:
Why wouldn't Trump announce that as his plan?

He already announced an IVF mandate for insurance companies, so he not adverse to doing things so-called conservatives hate.

Private insurance companies would likely welcome it, because Medicare has basically been turned over to them and the rules are not as restrictive as AFCA.

If Trump is planning that, then it is indeed secret and would be profound.

What would happen if he did?
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Assuming he wins, he'll probably have conservative majorities in both chambers. How does he pass such a mandate?

He has no plans, or ideas, or anything that requires higher brai nfunctions. He barely has language.

What he has are reactions, and buzzwords, and his feelings.
 
Donal said:
Assuming he wins, he'll probably have conservative majorities in both chambers. How does he pass such a mandate?

He has no plans, or ideas, or anything that requires higher brai nfunctions. He barely has language.

What he has are reactions, and buzzwords, and his feelings.
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The IVF mandate will be forgotten as soon as somebody suggests the opposite to him. There is no need to consider how such a thing might be passed because there's no intention to do so.

I do however like the idea of brai nfunctions - they sound tasty. :p
 
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Donal said:
Assuming he wins, he'll probably have conservative majorities in both chambers. How does he pass such a mandate?

He has no plans, or ideas, or anything that requires higher brai nfunctions. He barely has language.

What he has are reactions, and buzzwords, and his feelings.
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You're getting ahead of the game. If he wins he doesn't even have to try to pass it, he just has to campaign on it to peel votes away from Kamala.

If he wins he can forget about it, the way he did with so many 2016 campaign promises.
 
I mean, politicians are notorious for not taking their campaign promises seriously once in office. Sometimes it seems like Trump's only real offense is Doing Politics While Orange.
 
theprestige said:
I mean, politicians are notorious for not taking their campaign promises seriously once in office. Sometimes it seems like Trump's only real offense is Doing Politics While Orange.
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Yeah, trying to overturn an election so he can stay in power is just so minor to being orange.

 
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