Split Thread Trans ideology causes school shootings

Dr.Sid said:
I don't know, makes sense to me. If we want to prevent it in the future, of course we need to talk about triggers, not about the victims.

Anyway. I think school shootings are a meme (in its original sense). A fashion, if you will. The fact, that some group identifies with it more is IMHO natural. Trans are also perfect target for the meme .. disturbed, depressed, typically bullied. Once they learn school shootings is what trans kids do now, they might identify with it as well.
Media embargo in age of social networks is sadly impossible. Making guns unavailable to possible shooters won't happen any time soon either. Also in this type of act, ie. determined user, inspired by previous event .. other means of violence, like arson, might also become popular.
On the other hand, if it is becoming a problem of mostly one relatively small group, it should be easier to focus psychological help on that group. But then trans usually have tons of that already.
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Or trans is manufactured where children are forlorn and idle.
 
Samson said:
I am here.
The killer is a construct that Trausti correctly states is brand new.
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What, people hating trans is a new construct? Hate to break it to you, but that notion is older than you think. Roman emperor Elagabalus was, well, probably not the modern idea of "trans", but very close, and probably the first well documented case of gender dysphoria. He actually is recorded as wishing that what we now call gender reassignment surgery was a thing. And it may have played a role in why he was hated more than some of the actually tyrannical emperors, and why he ended up assassinated. (By the same grandmother Julia Maesa who had put him into power in the first place.)
 
HansMustermann said:
What, people hating trans is a new construct? Hate to break it to you, but that notion is older than you think. Roman emperor Elagabalus was, well, probably not the modern idea of "trans", but very close, and probably the first well documented case of gender dysphoria. He actually is recorded as wishing that what we now call gender reassignment surgery was a thing. And it may have played a role in why he was hated more than some of the actually tyrannical emperors, and why he ended up assassinated. (By the same grandmother Julia Maesa who had put him into power in the first place.)
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To be crystal clear
Women and children are reclaiming their status in your community.
 
HansMustermann said:
What, people hating trans is a new construct? Hate to break it to you, but that notion is older than you think. Roman emperor Elagabalus was, well, probably not the modern idea of "trans", but very close, and probably the first well documented case of gender dysphoria. He actually is recorded as wishing that what we now call gender reassignment surgery was a thing. And it may have played a role in why he was hated more than some of the actually tyrannical emperors, and why he ended up assassinated. (By the same grandmother Julia Maesa who had put him into power in the first place.)
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I will examine your post, it looks interesting.
 
Samson said:
My brother was an autogynephile.
His girl friend discovered him dressed in her clothing
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Unbelievable. Yet again you ignore the points raised against you and just spout more transphobic gibberish.

You genuinely don't understand what I'm saying do you?
 
Samson said:
Trans kids were not any part of your schooling.
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Neither were bairns with eating disorders, ADHD, ASD, psychoses, gay bairns, depressed bairns (well, looking back I was but in those days it wasn't A Thing, so I couldn't have been...), asthmatic bairns...You name it and, apparently, we did not have them, but we did have kids who couldn't run, weird, lonely kids, kids who couldn't sit still and concentrate, kids who had single fixed interests and wouldn't talk about anything else, the girl who just didn't come into school for most of one year and came back looking very thin. None of the diagnoses though, so, obviously, they could not have existed, eh?

Anyway, how, exactly, do we get from "trans" anything to shooting up a school with an AR-15?

I'll even quote some more Leonard Cohen lyrics for you. What do you want? Tower of Song? First We Take Manhattan? Chelsea Hotel? Do You Want It Darker? I'm Your Man?
 
Samson said:
I am suggesting that the trans cult driven into schools by Obama/Biden/Harris should be banned at every level of education.
This is not controversial in polling amongst the proletariat/plebescite in Western countries.
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It's not even a blip on the radar in the Netherlands.

And strangely enough just accepting trans people and allowing it a to be a personal choice with professional psychological guidance did not lead to an increase, or even a start, of school shootings.

It's almost as if there is some other factor that leads to more school shootings....
 
Lukraak_Sisser said:
It's not even a blip on the radar in the Netherlands.

And strangely enough just accepting trans people and allowing it a to be a personal choice with professional psychological guidance did not lead to an increase, or even a start, of school shootings.

It's almost as if there is some other factor that leads to more school shootings....
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Odd, isn't it?

No school shootings here either.

It does make you wonder if there are some other differences between the UK and the Netherlands and the USA. I mean, I've met some of your fellow country folk who can quote Leonard Cohen lyrics, so it can't even be that.
 
But for full disclosure sake, and it's actually kinda on topic for a change, but I mentioned many times before, I actually was someone who got transed by my grandma, so to speak, before that was even mainstream. Grandma wanted a granddaughter. Mom wanted a son. They both, heh, got their wish at my expense. I spent about half of my childhood being a girl when I was with grandma (who was really my main caretaker) and a boy when mom was around. I could and did flip genders on a coin drop, as soon as someone told me what to flip to. Well, until I was about 14 and it became kinda unfeasible to pass me off as a girl anymore. (And then it got worse. Let's not go there.)

Most of the time I didn't even understand WTH either really meant. TBH I liked being a girl more because it got me more attention. Plus, hey, grandma loved me more as a girl. I'd switch to being the girliest girl with golden curls in half a second flat for the attention of grandma and her friends :p

I later did stuff like cross-dress after that for lulz and shock value. And I still don't really even have a "gender identity" as such, since I grew up being whatever gender someone else told me to be. I liked it when grandma put me into a pink dress and showed me to her friends as her granddaughter, but that was literally the extent to which a 5 year old even understood what that was even about.

I never really thought about myself as a man, woman, or tentacled monster from Sirius. It's not even a part of my identity, much less a core part. I'm just ME. Defined by my memories, achievements, etc, not by my wearing pants or a skirt.

That was LONG before it was mainstream in the USA, btw.

Evil? Sure, granny was the most evil woman I ever knew, even before getting into her messing up a toddler's head.

BUT... would that justify someone shooting me or my classmates over that? Ehh, I like to think not.
 
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Racists ********* are present in any country, here in Australia after the Christchurch shootings (which led to NZ adopting the same (higher) standards as us Aussies on gun control), there was an Australian politician (sadly from my state, which has an uncomfortably high number of racists, sov cits, antivaxers and the like in the rural communities), who had the hide to blame the VICTIMS of the massacre there for instigating the massacre!!!

Fraser Anning (is that Sampson IRL lol???) coped a huge public backlash after his racist comments after the massacre- oh, and an egg to the noggin lol

Go Egg Boy!!!

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Anning is a right piece of work, regularly in trouble over racist comments...
The one in question was this (issued on Parliamentary letterhead no less)
“left-wing politicians and media” would blame gun laws and nationalist views, but “the real cause of bloodshed on New Zealand streets today is the immigration program which allowed Muslim fanatics to migrate to New Zealand in the first place.”
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Blaming the victims for 'causing' the attack,just by being there...


(Hey Sampson- you SURE you aren't a certain politician in disguise???)
 
erwinl said:
Very simple.
Somebody shoots up a school and the only thing you go on about is what apparently has triggered the shooter and that said trigger should be removed (from school), with nary a single word about the victims themselves.

That can only mean one thing and one thing only. You support the action of the anti-trans shooter.
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Samson said:
Yes of course, everything about the case is great.
The body count is OK but could be better in pursuit of lowering human biomass.
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What. The.

:eek: :confused:
 
Samson said:
I am suggesting that the trans cult driven into schools by Obama/Biden/Harris should be banned at every level of education.
This is not controversial in polling amongst the proletariat/plebescite in Western countries.
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:rolleyes:
Yes we all know what you're saying. It's noxious, bigoted, transphobic rubbish.

Also you still haven't learned what 'plebescite' [sic] means.
 
HansMustermann said:
Wait, wait... this is getting even more disconnected. Now not only it's that some guy who wasn't trans, shooting some kids who also weren't, it's even the state that becomes a red herring. As in, what, because (in your mind) it's a problem in liberal California, he shot some kids in mostly conservative Georgia? :p
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Desperate, incoherent, flailing is a common symptom of conspiratorial bigotry,
 
I dunno, from my limited experience, I'd say most conspiracy theorists can articulate their 'theory' better than our friend Samson. I mean, it will still be unsound, but most can put at least a semblance of logic. Here what we have is more of a case of

Roses are red
Violets are blue
Therefore penguins are evil :p
 
catsmate said:
Desperate, incoherent, flailing is a common symptom of conspiratorial bigotry,
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Some people will resort to the most irrelevant arguments and insane ideas to avoid facing our real problem. We're awash with guns and children have easy access. You can tell your interlocutor is a moral coward when they focus on what random topic the school shooter was angry about. We'll never eliminate the things that anger and frustrate kids. We could if we really wanted to, make it a lot harder for kids to get a hold of guns and didn't allow people to buy certain guns at all.
 
Samson said:
Yes of course, everything about the case is great.
The body count is OK but could be better in pursuit of lowering human biomass.
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I will say in a tentative defence of samson I think this post was sarcasm.
 
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