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Kamala Harris Election Campaign

Trausti said:
Wasn't it Roger Scruton who observed that liberals think conservatives are evil while conservatives simpy feel that liberals are wrong? This habitual accuation by liberals that every conservative is actually the second coming of Hitler is just too on the nose.
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Not really many mainstream conservatives think that liberals are in league with the devil, see Tucker Carlson for an example of this.
 
Disbelief said:
The republicans never talk about the democrats as Marxist/socialists in a derogatory manner. They never claim that they are baby killers. Never claim that they want to mutilate teenagers. Never claim that they need god in their lives. Nope, conservatives never claim liberals are evil. Give me a break.
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Vance's (you know, Drumpf's pet swamp troll trying hard to come across as a human), latest idea is that foreigners are running around in suburbs stealing and eating cats. You can't make this stuff up.
 
Disbelief said:
The republicans never talk about the democrats as Marxist/socialists in a derogatory manner. They never claim that they are baby killers. Never claim that they want to mutilate teenagers. Never claim that they need god in their lives. Nope, conservatives never claim liberals are evil. Give me a break.
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My favorite is that liberals hate America and want to destroy it because...reasons.

Like we don't live here and want it to be better.
 
Disbelief said:
The republicans never talk about the democrats as Marxist/socialists in a derogatory manner. They never claim that they are baby killers. Never claim that they want to mutilate teenagers. Never claim that they need god in their lives. Nope, conservatives never claim liberals are evil. Give me a break.
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It cracks me up. I don't see the boogeyman behind every doorway. But here's a fact about politics. Fear sells. Republicans tell you what's wrong and who is to blame for it. (Always the Democrats)

But their only solution to any and every problem is give more money to the rich. Get out of the way of the rich. These rich people know how to solve every problem. And yet they never ever do. They just look for ways to get richer. It's eliminate all these burdensome regulations and then we can be more efficient. (Which undoubtedly will be true.) But that doesn't mean that increased efficiency will help anyone other than the rich. Getting rid of consumer protection just results in consumer being left unprotected. Getting rid of environmental protections, leaves the environment unprotected. Getting rid of labor laws doesn't help employees.

Just once in my life I'd like to see a bill in Congress created by Republicans whose obvious goal is to help the poor and middle class. (As opposed to a bill that obviously isn't but they attempt to spin that way.)



Awe'll be more profitable and that will help everyone.
 
Disbelief said:
The republicans never talk about the democrats as Marxist/socialists in a derogatory manner. They never claim that they are baby killers. Never claim that they want to mutilate teenagers. Never claim that they need god in their lives. Nope, conservatives never claim liberals are evil. Give me a break.
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But they put in a bunch of laws stating that aborted fetuses must be kept alive if possible. At a cost to the mother. Even though they have no chance to survive. Trump then took it a step further: Democrats kill babies after birth (9 months of pregnancy).

Partial birth abortion was a term they came up with too.
 
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Some of our conservative members are poster children for the old adage "None are so blind as those who refuse to see".

If Trump were to take an AR 15 and mow down a school science class, his cultists would claim it was his God-given right to have the AR 15 and he was only protecting us from a bunch of future Satanist abortionists.
 
Trausti said:
Wasn't it Roger Scruton who observed that liberals think conservatives are evil while conservatives simpy feel that liberals are wrong? This habitual accuation by liberals that every conservative is actually the second coming of Hitler is just too on the nose.
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ponderingturtle said:
Not really many mainstream conservatives think that liberals are in league with the devil, see Tucker Carlson for an example of this.
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Tucker Carlson is also not helping out the first part of that equation very much by hosting a podcaster who literally argued that Churchill was the bad guy in World War Two and that Hitler was just trying to get things done and couldn't help it if he ended up with lots of "prisoners" in camps who happened to die.

But as you say, "conservatives" depending on how you define that, have not merely been saying that liberals are wrong, but also dreaming up conspiracy theories that Bill Gates, George Soros and Anthony Fauci have been trying to depopulate the world with evil vaccines, that Hillary Clinton and co have been running pedophile rings and adrenochrome factories, that the World Economic Forum has been trying to turn everyone into Soylent Green, or that the Great Reset is some kind of scheme to enslave the population, or that the Transgender Lobby are trying to "groom" your kids, etc...

The right-wing has effectively mainstreamed Alex Jones-style conspiracy theorism which absolutely does see the left as satanic, godless commies and Hamasniks, etc...

It's hard to paint that as mere disagreement.
 
Safe-Keeper said:
Vance's (you know, Drumpf's pet swamp troll trying hard to come across as a human), latest idea is that foreigners are running around in suburbs stealing and eating cats. You can't make this stuff up.
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The people in the city meeting claiming the eating of local 'wildlife' including cats and ducks, were black residents
Did they lie about what they saw the Haitians doing? Is it so hard to believe from a war-zone -like place where they eat actual 'dirt cookies' when they are hungry? Who would even blame them when plopped suddenly in large numbers in a small-ish town?
The park probably looks like a free duck grocery to them.
 
Sherkeu said:
The people in the city meeting claiming the eating of local 'wildlife' including cats and ducks, were black residents Did they lie about what they saw the Haitians doing? Is it so hard to believe from a war-zone -like place where they eat actual 'dirt cookies' when they are hungry? Who would even blame them when plopped suddenly in large numbers in a small-ish town?
The park probably looks like a free duck grocery to them.
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Citation needed. The rest is pure speculation.

From Snopes:

Further purported evidence comes from far-right or conspiracy influencers providing "on the ground" coverage from Springfield, or from videos of local city council meetings in which alleged residents are seen complaining about the Haitian population. As far as eating animals is concerned, these videos all depict people repeating second-hand information, and are not independent corroboration of those viral claims.
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Try doing so fact checking. So far, all I've seen are right-wing morons repeated a myth.
 
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Stacyhs said:
Citation needed. The rest is pure speculation.

From Snopes:

Try doing so fact checking. So far, all I've seen are right-wing morons repeated a myth.
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Umm...there is video. Possible they were lying or sick of the immigrants. All is plausible when your town is suddenly 20% refugee Hatians. Haiti is not crap because it is a terrible geography or beaches or hurricanes--- it is a decrepit political system that promoted and caused a societal decline in the people...then those people came HERE. Do you expect them to know the culture immediately?

Try looking around non biased sources. Do you need me to do your work for you for such an allegation?
I saw the video 2 days ago and have no record.
I'll find it if you cannot bother to do it.
 
Sherkeu said:
Umm...there is video. Possible they were lying or sick of the immigrants. All is plausible when your town is suddenly 20% refugee Hatians. Haiti is not crap because it is a terrible geography or beaches or hurricanes--- it is a decrepit political system that promoted and caused a societal decline in the people...then those people came HERE. Do you expect them to know the culture immediately?

Try looking around non biased sources. Do you need me to do your work for you for such an allegation?
I saw the video 2 days ago and have no record.
I'll find it if you cannot bother to do it.
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People eat dogs and cats and other pets only when there is scarcity in food. That is not the case in the USA. This racist idea that it is part of the culture is based on ignorance.
 
You know, people predicted Dump would become more and more unhinged closer to the election, but this. Actually using that ridiculous cat story during the debate? His cultists actually flooding social media with photoshopped pictures of Dump hugging cats and dogs? They've taken what could've just been one of their 30 000+ lies and secured it a place in history books. Dump will become "the President who lied about black people running around stealing and eating white peoples' cats!"

He couldn't have shot himself harder in the foot if he tried. Even after eight years of him doing inexplicable things, I'm almost at a loss for words about how he could do something that weird! And he even has followers defending that lie in forum threads? It's like they want him to lose.
 
Swifties are finally, officially, on board. I've no doubt 99% of Swifties were before the announcement, but it's nice to see Taylor finally commit.
 
Trump can't tell the difference between public presence and popularity:

Vance is doing the media circus, so he has a large presence. He talks about Cat Ladies, so that must be a popular line.
 
How they've turned it around since that disastrous debate in July.
There's no doubt in my mind now, barring some catastrophic October surprise, Harris is going to win, quite possibly with a landslide. Election is still 54 days off, but Dump is just going to get even more unhinged, and he's already getting his cultists to rant about black people stealing and eating cats. This is over.
 
jumps in popularity after a debate will even out come November - unless one side does something significant, one way or the other.

This battle was important to keep the momentum.
but it was not the war.
 
Sherkeu said:
Umm...there is video. Possible they were lying or sick of the immigrants. All is plausible when your town is suddenly 20% refugee Hatians.
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I see. Just throw as much crap as you can against the wall to see what will stick.

Whether they are simply racist lies or not, it's all the same to you because it is fodder for anti-Haitian hate.


Sherkeu said:
Haiti is not crap because it is a terrible geography or beaches or hurricanes--- it is a decrepit political system that promoted and caused a societal decline in the people...then those people came HERE. Do you expect them to know the culture immediately?

Try looking around non biased sources. Do you need me to do your work for you for such an allegation?
I saw the video 2 days ago and have no record.
I'll find it if you cannot bother to do it.
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It seems that one of the people who have been spreading anti-Haitian lies is a literal neo-Nazi. His group marched around Sprinfield with swastikas.

Link

Great bunch of people that you are reflexively offering apologias for, Sherkeu.
 
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