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The US Army is now saying though not in so many words, that the Trump campaign is lying in it's account of the Arlington incident. that Trump campang peoplee did get into a scuffle with the Arlington employees.
Trump: the Military's Friend................
 
kookbreaker said:
It won't change their mind but seeing MAGAhats on the defensive is fun:

"But...but what about this pic of Obama at Arlington!!!!CEHECKMETE LIBRUSL!!"

"Not used in a political campaign, used an approved photgrapher. Next."
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Actualy, photography is allowed in Arlington without approbal so long as it is not used for politcal purposes. Realistically, it would be impossible to enforce a no photography rule what almost everybody has a camera in their cell phone.
I was taking a shot of Admiral Halsey;s grave when a guard passed by and did not say a word.
 
dudalb said:
The US Army is now saying though not in so many words, that the Trump campaign is lying in it's account of the Arlington incident. that Trump campang peoplee did get into a scuffle with the Arlington employees.
Trump: the Military's Friend................
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The Trump campang peoplee might also be getting sued for using the White Stripes's music without permission.

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White continued to rip into Trump, noting the confrontation his team had while turning Arlington National Cemetery into an unauthorized photo op. “A double **** you DonOLD for insulting our nation’s veterans at Arlington you scum,” White added. “You should lose every military family’s vote immediately from that if ANYTHING makes sense anymore.”

White’s post came just hours after ABBA joined the dozens of artists to publicly denounce Trump and his campaign for using their music without permission.
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I get it. They probably thought, "White Stripes? That's like White Supremacy, right? They're our people!"

They probably also thought, "ABBA! They come from one of those white countries, Sweden, right? Not one of those ******** countries that AOC comes from... we can use their music!"
 
dudalb said:
Actualy, photography is allowed in Arlington without approbal so long as it is not used for politcal purposes. Realistically, it would be impossible to enforce a no photography rule what almost everybody has a camera in their cell phone.
I was taking a shot of Admiral Halsey's grave when a guard passed by and did not say a word.
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I have photos from Arlington, Gettysburg, the American Cemetery in Colleville Sur Mer,
and the Henri-Chapelle American Cemetery in Belgium where my father's cousin is buried.

But I never posted any of those photos in a campaign press release.
 
angrysoba said:
The Trump campang peoplee might also be getting sued for using the White Stripes's music without permission.

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I get it. They probably thought, "White Stripes? That's like White Supremacy, right? They're our people!"

They probably also thought, "ABBA! They come from one of those white countries, Sweden, right? Not one of those ******** countries that AOC comes from... we can use their music!"
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Sorry I think his stunt at Arlington is a lot more disgustin.
 
It's another case of how mind boggling stupid he is. There was a way he could have had his cake and ate it too, but he's too dumb to see that possibility. All he had to do was to go through everything he did, without the gaggle of cameras in tow.
Sure, there'd be pictures taken, like everyone here has said, and in a matter of days, they'd leak out. And that's when the family could rightly say they invited Trump, and what do you know, much to everyone's surprise, he showed up! He didn't make a huge deal about being there, he wanted to us show he cared. Here, let US show you.
Those pictures would be unstoppable and a thousand times the weight of his stunt pictures.
But, he's just not that bright.
Standing there with a stupid grin, and a thumbs up, in Arlington National Cemetery is all you need to see to know that he hasn't a clue.
 
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Arlington National Cemetery rules regarding photography.

must adhere to Title 32 Code of Federal Regulation Part 553.33-35, which prohibits display or distribution of commercial advertising or the solicitation of business within the cemeteries.

8) Filming or photographing will not be permitted if it conveys the impression that
cemetery officials or any visitor or family member is endorsing any product, service or
organization. Additionally, ANC will not authorize any filming for partisan, political or fundraising purposes, in accordance with the Hatch Act.
 
Mike! said:
But, he’s just not that bright.
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I own a 70-year-old watch, 35mm, with a minute hand, the longer of the two, approximately the size of a 16 point “I”, which contains a sliver of lume about as potent as an exhausted, elderly firefly that can’t get it up. In short: faint, faint, faint. Trump would be envious (if he had any self awareness).
 
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dudalb said:
Actualy, photography is allowed in Arlington without approbal so long as it is not used for politcal purposes. Realistically, it would be impossible to enforce a no photography rule what almost everybody has a camera in their cell phone.
I was taking a shot of Admiral Halsey;s grave when a guard passed by and did not say a word.
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The MAGA caps have convinced themselves that this was targeting Trump. As evidence they use a photo of Biden using Arlington photos to campaign for office in…..2010.

You read that right.

https://x.com/greg_price11/status/1829187409164071102?s=61&t=sE9SVLq0FjCjlM4Fk2Ajcw
 
Stacyhs said:
He does tend to attract the nut cases. Birds of a feather and all. Trump's welcome to them.
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I just had a thought. Lot's say Trump looses this election and then in the intervening years to the 2028 he becomes, say, injured or ill or otherwise incarcerated RFK could stand in a a replacement for that election.


PS: The prediction just came out. Really cool.

Allan Lichtman Prediction For 2024 Presidential Election


Key 2 – No Primary Contest: With Joe Biden’s endorsement clearing the field for Harris, there are no significant challengers from within the party.

Key 4 – No Third Party: Historically, third parties are detrimental to the White House party. Robert F. Kennedy Jr. would need 5% of the vote to influence this key, with a potential stabilization at 10% deemed unlikely by Lichtman.
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Third parties are the canary in the coal mine of democracy. They haven't had any real activity since the year 2000. Admittedly Democrats aren't helping the situation. Seriously, if your worried about third party runs, then you are in real trouble.


Key 5 – Strong Short-Term Economy: No recession has been declared by the National Bureau of Economic Research this year.

Key 6 – Strong Long-Term Economy: Economic growth under Biden has exceeded that of the previous two terms, adjusted for inflation.

Key 7 – Major Policy Change: Biden’s policies mark a significant departure from the Trump administration.

Key 8 – No Social Unrest: Lichtman notes that only massive unrest, akin to the 1960s or Black Lives Matter protests, could impact this key. The current unrest is not considered significant enough.

Key 9 – No Scandal: There has been no bipartisan-recognized corruption scandal involving the president.

Key 13 – Uncharismatic Challenger: Donald Trump is perceived as unappealing to voters across party lines.
Keys Harris Losing
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Well... Unappealing isn't something Republicans care about.


Key 1 – Midterm Gains: The White House party wins this key if they hold more House seats after the 2022 midterms than in 2018. This key is currently not in Harris’s favor.

Key 3 – Incumbent Seeking Re-election: Harris would need Biden to exit office before November for her to be considered the incumbent and win this key. As it stands, this key is not yet secured.
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Eh, technicalities...


Key 10 – No Foreign/Military Failure: The unresolved conflicts in Gaza and Ukraine contribute to losing this key.

Key 11 – Major Foreign/Military Success: Similarly, the ongoing conflicts mean Democrats lose this key. A successful U.S.-brokered ceasefire could change this.
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I cannot pin either of these on Harris. If she had some roll maybe. But nothing springs to mind.


Key 12 – Charismatic Incumbent: The incumbent must appeal across party lines. Harris has yet to demonstrate this level of broad appeal.
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I'm neutral on this point at this point in time.
 
The debate did not work so well for underdog Biden. Now we have underdog Trump. And he never turns down a chance to talk to a national audience.

Will he claim that the election will be stolen?
 
dudalb said:
The prohibition is against photos/vidoes for political purposes. It would be im possible to keep Joe Tourist from taking a snapshot.
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I know. I was agreeing that photos are permitted as long as they're not used for political purposes.
 
Solitaire said:
I just had a thought. Lot's say Trump looses this election and then in the intervening years to the 2028 he becomes, say, injured or ill or otherwise incarcerated RFK could stand in a a replacement for that election.


PS: The prediction just came out. Really cool.

Third parties are the canary in the coal mine of democracy. They haven't had any real activity since the year 2000. Admittedly Democrats aren't helping the situation. Seriously, if your worried about third party runs, then you are in real trouble.

Well... Unappealing isn't something Republicans care about.
Eh, technicalities...
I cannot pin either of these on Harris. If she had some roll maybe. But nothing springs to mind.
I'm neutral on this point at this point in time.
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Won't happen. Wild fantasy.

I can just see a man who has been a lifelong Democrat, who is generally liberal and bat crap crazy taking Trump's place.
 
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