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Kamala Harris Election Campaign

rdwight said:
I know this is an obvious question, by why does no one that supports DEI as an initiative want people associated with the use of it? "This is obviously good policy." "How dare you call them a DEI hire!" I can't really think of another comparable scenario in policy that mirrors it.
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Assuming this was a good faith quesiton and say that proponents of DEO programs are oppsoed to the context with which people who say "DEI hire" are using it. Its being sued to imply the person was picked simply due to their race, rather than beneiftting from a program meant to expand the search for qualified candidates.

Saying VP HArris is a "DEI hire" has a very different sound that "VP Harris is a successful example of DEI initiatives" (although to my knowledge that isn't true either)
 
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Norman Alexander said:
Weren't Caribbean Americans originally brought from Africa on the same slave ships as African Americans?
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Indeed they were. Another recent right wing tactic employed in the hope of convincing black Americans to vote for the racist white guy over the African American candidate, or to at least stay home on election day, makes references to that history. I'm referring to the "her father was a descendant of slave owners" tactic, intended to paint her as not only "less African American than Bill Clinton", but to associate her with white oppressors, rather than enslaved ancestors. The fact they ignore is that many people of African ancestry in the Americas have a slave owner or two in their family tree, due to the not unusual practice among slave owners of raping their slaves. Yet the children resulting from such rapes weren't named in the family Bible - they didn't go on to inherit their father's plantations and slaves. If the slave owner had delusions of benevolence he may have seen to it that they led relatively comfortable lives compared to other slaves, but they would never be acknowledged publicly, much less enfranchised in the family business to profit from the labor of their family's slaves.
 
theprestige said:
Slavery isn't the problem. It's the post slavery regime of segregation and discrimination that really matters. And it's exactly that regime that Harris and her parents never experienced.
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Donald Harris moved to the U.S. in 1961. Do you seriously think that he saw nothing of racism in a country where many were actively fighting to defend segregation and discrimination? You think racists were suddenly amiable toward him and his Indian wife once they found out he grew up in Jamaica?

"What? You say you're from Jamaica? Well why didn't you say so? Billy Ray an' me is mighty sorry. We thought you were a negrah, but we see now that you're even whiter than that Bill kid my nephew goes to high school with in Arkansas."
 
shemp said:
You didn't vote for him in the poll. Nobody did.
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Well, not everybody does the polls. I posted in that thread that I liked him, but didn't vote.

Now, away we go! They have what, 6 rallies in the next few days? Trump has one in Montana, not exactly a battleground. Seems like he was banking on coasting through this one on Biden time.
 
rdwight said:
Good policy shouldn't be shyed away from. The idea that too many people are too racist to embrace policy that has a positive outcome just isn't reality. The main problem I see is that the VP has very specific powers that don't really bear fruit to highlight. But that doesn't translate well in messaging that points to her position of experience. In her case I think the lack of demonstratable accomplishment from this policy are hard to pinpoint unlike a governor or senator that can introduce and secure actionable policy.
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Main problem? That's on page 19 of the list of problems. The main problem is the GOP has been subsumed by a cult that opposes democracy, and promotes racism and whacked out conspiracy theories.
 
rdwight said:
I know this is an obvious question, by why does no one that supports DEI as an initiative want people associated with the use of it? "This is obviously good policy." "How dare you call them a DEI hire!" I can't really think of another comparable scenario in policy that mirrors it.
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Referring to someone as a "DEI hire" is a coded way of calling them the n-word.
 
shemp said:
You didn't vote for him in the poll. Nobody did.
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I didn't vote for anyone. Expressed hope is just bait to be dashed against the rocks of this, the darkest timeline.

That said, Walz is a good pick. People are digging into his history, and do you know what this guy does with his own daughter? Spends wholesome quality time with her at the state fair because he's not a creep.
 
Trump campaign is saying that Walz wants to allow convicted felons to vote, which they believe is bad.

I guess they don't want Trump to vote either.
 
Weird take since people in red states actually vote for restoring voting rights for felons
 
Foster Zygote said:
Indeed they were. Another recent right wing tactic employed in the hope of convincing black Americans to vote for the racist white guy over the African American candidate, or to at least stay home on election day, makes references to that history. I'm referring to the "her father was a descendant of slave owners" tactic, intended to paint her as not only "less African American than Bill Clinton", but to associate her with white oppressors, rather than enslaved ancestors. The fact they ignore is that many people of African ancestry in the Americas have a slave owner or two in their family tree, due to the not unusual practice among slave owners of raping their slaves. Yet the children resulting from such rapes weren't named in the family Bible - they didn't go on to inherit their father's plantations and slaves. If the slave owner had delusions of benevolence he may have seen to it that they led relatively comfortable lives compared to other slaves, but they would never be acknowledged publicly, much less enfranchised in the family business to profit from the labor of their family's slaves.
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Before Dec. 1662, children inherited the status of the father under English law so children born to an enslaved black woman and a white father were free. After 1662, children inherited the status of their mother.
(Hereditary Slavery Law Virginia 1662-ACT XII)
 
Safe-Keeper said:
Can you believe the GOP has a candidate who's nearly 80 years old? How totally embarrassing! How positively weird!
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Not exactly a stellar attack from the side that, a couple of weeks ago, was insisting that everything was just fine with an even more obviously aged alternative. It just screams "Even I don't really buy what I'm pushing half of the time!".
 
Stacyhs said:
Before Dec. 1662, children inherited the status of the father under English law so children born to an enslaved black woman and a white father were free. After 1662, children inherited the status of their mother.
(Hereditary Slavery Law Virginia 1662-ACT XII)
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It almost sounds like they were tired of the accidental pregnancies resulting from their rapes producing offspring who scandalously complicated their inheritance situation.
 
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