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Kamala Harris Election Campaign

acbytesla said:
Trump is throwing mud. That is for sure. Everything Trump does is about division. But he's the ONLY ONE talking about her race.
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Bwahahahahahaha!

Oh, wait, you're serious.

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
 
Stacyhs said:
They're well aware of the stupidity of the claim just as they were when the same crap was trotted out about Obama. After all, his father was from Kenya, so they rejected him as being "African-American". Oh, wait, they didn't.



Black voters are not rallying behind Harris at all which is why they haven't been able to raise any money. Oh, wait...

While many Black women were ready to support Biden’s reelection bid, the news that Harris would likely replace Biden at the top of the Democratic ticket energized a lot of Black female voters, said Shavon Arline-Bradley, president of the National Council of Negro Women.
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Yea, but black voters just haven't heard the news that Kamala is not a "real" black person.
 
Ziggurat said:
Bwahahahahahaha!

Oh, wait, you're serious.

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
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Yes, I'm serious. You should try it.

What are you laughing at? Do you think I'm clutching pearls?

Or do you you think that Trump isn't a bonafide racist? (Now that's funny.)

Or.....do you think, so what he's a racist? Nothing new to see here?
 
I think Ziggy is pointing out that Trump isn't the only one. Trump's supporters are talking about it as well.
 
Don't be too dismissive of the attacks. Splitting a disadvantaged population and convincing half of it to vote against its own interests in order to spite the other half is the GOP's main stock in trade. It's what they're good at. If they can make inroads among Black voters by claiming Harris isn't Black enough, then that's what they'll do. Nevermind that they'll both be too Black when the hoods go on, that part won't come until later.

theprestige said:
Slavery isn't the problem. It's the post slavery regime of segregation and discrimination that really matters. And it's exactly that regime that Harris and her parents never experienced.
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You're better than this.
 
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thaiboxerken said:
Yea, but black voters just haven't heard the news that Kamala is not a "real" black person.
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Fortunately, there is a long line of wealthy white folks willing to educate them on the matter of the VP's blackness.
 
acbytesla said:
Yes, I'm serious. You should try it.

What are you laughing at? Do you think I'm clutching pearls?

Or do you you think that Trump isn't a bonafide racist? (Now that's funny.)

Or.....do you think, so what he's a racist? Nothing new to see here?
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Now you moved the goalpost. You claimed only Trump brought up race. But bringing up race isn't the same as racism, is it? All the people who touted the election of Obama as the first black president being a good thing, they were talking about his race, but are you saying now that this is racism?

The same thing is happening with Harris. A lot of her supporters are saying that the fact that she's a black woman is a reason to support her. Are they being racist? I'm not making that claim, but it is pretty obvious that some of her supporters are talking about her race. And that suffices to refute what you said before this goalpost move.
 
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Ziggurat said:
Now you moved the goalpost. You claimed only Trump brought up race. But bringing up race isn't the same as racism, is it? All the people who touted the election of Obama as the first black president being a good thing, they were talking about his race, but are you saying now that this is racism?

The same thing is happening with Harris. A lot of her supporters are saying that the fact that she's a black woman is a reason to support her. Are they being racist? I'm not making that claim, but it is pretty obvious that some of her supporters are talking about her race. And that suffices to refute what you said before this goalpost move.
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Trump suggesting that Kamala isn't really black, is racism. But not at all shocking you dont grasp that.

Or at least claim not to.
 
There's a good chunk of the conservative population (even the "not a Trump supporter" wing) that circles the wagons the moment a racist is getting criticized for their racism.
 
Beelzebuddy said:
Don't be too dismissive of the attacks. Splitting a disadvantaged population and convincing half of it to vote against its own interests in order to spite the other half is the GOP's main stock in trade. It's what they're good at. If they can make inroads among Black voters by claiming Harris isn't Black enough, then that's what they'll do. Nevermind that they'll both be too Black when the hoods go on, that part won't come until later.


You're better than this.
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No, no he isn't.
 
Black people are smarter than to buy into Trump's racist ******** about Kamala not being black enough. The reaction at the TV interview with the reporters was very telling. They know Trump is not their friend.
 
Ziggurat said:
Now you moved the goalpost. You claimed only Trump brought up race. But bringing up race isn't the same as racism, is it? All the people who touted the election of Obama as the first black president being a good thing, they were talking about his race, but are you saying now that this is racism?
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Not it's not. There is a pronounced difference between feeling positive about the advancement of a society that has had a long history of racism moving forward and making decisions solely on race.

Ziggurat said:
The same thing is happening with Harris. A lot of her supporters are saying that the fact that she's a black woman is a reason to support her. Are they being racist? I'm not making that claim, but it is pretty obvious that some of her supporters are talking about her race. And that suffices to refute what you said before this goalpost move.
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It is a reason. I don't deny it. But it's not the only reason. Or even a primary reason.

That's not racism. That's where they come from. They understand what it means to be black in America. To be part of that underclass. She's relatable. Is that any different than Americans cheering for an American in the Olympics? I'm sorry that Trump doesn't have humble beginnings. Perhaps he can win the Old, White, Bigoted Billionaire's vote?

I keep hearing from conservatives that Harris is a DEI hire. Meaning she "Didn't Earn It." And now they're trying to say she's not black. The irony is dripping.

Are you/they saying the man that inherited his wealth, took over his father's company, did?
 
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The reason we're hearing all these Republicans repeat the "Harris really isn't 'black'" and "She's a DEI hire" is because that's what Trump is saying. They'll just parrot whatever he says. If Trump wasn't saying it, then they wouldn't be either. It's also not a new strategy for Trump:

Khalil Girban Muhammad, professor of history, race and public policy at Harvard Kennedy School says Trump and many of his followers use race as a tool, even if it seems contradictory on the surface.

He notes that for the past few years the GOP has been pushing color blindness in their opposition to DEI and affirmative action on the one hand, while pushing racist conspiracies on the other.
“Why would the head of the Republican Party start to weaponize race for himself to be the arbiter of defining whether Kamala Harris is Black or Indian, when in fact the Republican Party is supposed to be moving America to an assimilationist future where race doesn't matter?” Muhammad asks.

“Because that's not a future they actually embrace,” he answers. “They embrace a future that reflects the past of white nationalism, of white essentialism, and of xenophobia.”
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“Donald Trump is trying to persuade a number of marginal black voters that they should not think of Kamala Harris as one of them,” Muhammad says.

The narrative that Harris isn’t Black is not new. It’s also not new to the Trump camp. Attacks on Harris’ identity first gained some prominence in 2019 when Harris was running to be the Democratic nominee. Some pointed to the fact that Harris may have had an ancestor who was a slave owner to say she was unqualified to speak for Black people. Historians note that many descendants of enslaved people carry the names and the DNA of slave owners due to rape and sexual violence. Still, Donald Trump Jr. amplified this claim on twitter before deleting it.

Harris’ Black ancestry comes from her immigrant Jamaican father. She attended Howard University, an HBCU, and she is a member of AKA, a prominent Black sorority. Some argue, however, that she is not connected to Black Americans because she is not descended from enslaved people in America.

Tillery says the distinctions between Black immigrants and Black descendants of American slavery have been important and nuanced in the debate around who should receive reparations. California’s reparations project, for example, is aimed only at the descendants of enslaved people.

But Tillery says some turned those distinctions into divisions, especially groups coalescing under the hashtag #ADOS - which stands for American Descendants of Slavery. Critics say that ADOS draws too stark a line around who gets to claim Blackness.

“ADOS has such a pointed view of who is eligible for reparations or redistributive policies in the United States that it mostly divides Black people,” says Muhammad.

Muhammad says whether intentional or not, Trump is “weaponizing ADOS' iconoclastic and divisive politics around issues such as reparations.” He says it’s a brilliant strategy that pairs with the anti-immigrant rhetoric Trump used at NABJ, telling the room that "criminals" were coming over the border to take their “Black jobs.” "He did try to move it towards the policy issue, which is to say, 'I'm going to tap into Black xenophobia because I know it's real. I've heard it,'" Muhammad says. It’s a strategy of divide and conquer, he says.
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Because Harris doesn't descend from slaves in the US and isn't 'really Black', she was exempted from the school integration busing program in elementary school which required a 40-minute bus ride across the city twice daily. Oh, wait.......
 
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