That's actually a good line but isn't more like 0-20 at this point.
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johnny karate
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The theoretical candidate wouldn't need to be uniquely dynamic because Biden is, but rather because they would need that quality to overcome the inherent risk in not going with a successful incumbent.
Whether it's today or a year ago, it's still not clear to me who that candidate would be.
A couple of people have mentioned Newsom. Aside from the issues with him I've already pointed out, California is experiencing a massive budget deficit right now, so he'd be crucified on that. I'm not sure what would have to run on other than not being old.
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A very few months before NZ's general election Labour was languishing a distant second to the incumbent National Party. Seeing a disaster, Labour took the step of replacing the leader - who had held the job for mere months - with the very popular Jacinda Ardern and won an unlikely victory.
Change when you're in trouble can be a very good thing. I believe almost anyone else would win for the Democrats and it's not too late to change.
I'd bet my life nothing changes, though.
There are others who have said he is and the response was aimed at them as well as you.
As to the "could be", the earth could be struck by an asteroid next week.
I was assured before 2016 that TRUMP winning would have an affect on the entire world. It made zero difference here, and I don't believe the next TRUMP presidency will either.
Hyperbole much?
He does not control either SCOTUS or the House. If he tries to do something unconstitutional, I'm confident he'd be stopped. The idea that he controls the Republicans in Congress is laughable given the failures of Crazy Marge and pals to oust Johnson.
2More crystal ball gazing.
Wrong.
If Bernie (or anyone else but Hillary) had been the opponent in 2016, we wouldn't be here now, and Trump would be back to being the laughing-stock he always was.
The Democrats screwed up royally, all because Hillary somehow deserved the niomination.
Hardly even worth dreaming, but the recriminations and inquests into why he lost will be hilarious if he loses, so it's all good.
He's glib, rich, handsome too? I don't think he'd work either, too much baggage and easy to make Californian look too lefty, with newsome that's mostly guilt by association. I like Whtmer and Polis, I think most of their baggage just means Trump voter's wouldn't vote for them. But again, basically just academic at this point. Still given what polls have been showing, Biden's incumbency isn't helping him much and if he had stepped down voluntarily it would have gotten rid of the stigma of the party forcing him out.
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That's who we were told Biden was supposed to be. It was the entirety of the case for him that anybody ever mustered.
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No, I didn't. You said, "I've got $10 on you hearing crickets," which means there would be no answer. But Stanfr posted an extensive answer. Just because you claim his answer is "bogus" does not negate the fact he did, indeed, answer. So, yeah, you did lose that bet.
Yes, Srsly. I listed several "similarities" between them. Having an abusive, tyrannical father IS a similarity between those two particular people. Or are you claiming they did NOT have abusive, tyrannical father in common? Your attempt to equate that to my saying "Half the people in the world are like Hitler," is absurd. But absurdities are often utilized by those who have no other response.
By the way, I never said that having abusive and tyrannical fathers is why Hitler and Trump are alike." I listed it as one of many similarities. At least be honest enough not to twist what I say to fit your agenda.
There is most certainly a link between an abusive childhood and NPR:
When you have to resort to such hyperbolic nonsense as claiming that "every politician who ever lived" believes they are superior, destined to rule and only they can save their country, it only weakens your position.
Of course, Trump is an insecure blowhard, but that is a characteristic of NPD!
Maybe do a little research before opining on something.
Wow, that's some counter argument! Real National Debate Tournament quality!
I've supported everything I've said. Have you given a single rebuttal other than sarcastic quips? Not yet. Surely you can do better....
So, being "old news" does not make it any less true. As usual, the point goes right over your head. They were preaching the same message: our country is not respected, it's falling apart and we need to make it like it used to be: GREAT!"
Hitler called it the Third Reich (Empire) because he saw it as the natural successor to the first German Holy Roman Empire and the second German empire under the Hapsburgs. In other words: Make Germany great again.
Trump on the 2016 campaign trail: “the world is laughing at us.”
Trump on the 2020 campaign trail: "You know, we're respected again. You may not feel it, although I think you do. You may not see it. You don't read about it from the fake news, but this country is respected again."
Try reading for comprehension. I never said Trump controls the media. Once again, the point goes right past you. The point is that Hitler took control of the media so he could control what they said about him and what the German people could be led to believe.
Trump does not have the power to control what all the media says, but conservative media obsequiously panders to him. They only print/say positive things about him and either ignore or downplay anything negative about him that cannot be ignored. Trump admitted he uses the term 'fake news' to spread distrust of the media so people won't believe any negative reports about him. MAGA live in a pro-Trump bubble, getting their info from Truth Social which is nothing but a lie-a-thon, Fox, OAN, Newsmax and right-wing radio.
That's gold! Right after berating me for my attack on Hillary you are absolutely equating the Brownshirts and Gestapo with Trump saying mean things.
This is a lot more fun than I expected.
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Seriously, dude; do you have a reading comprehension problem?
Apparently, you don't know what "rhetoric" means: it's "the use of persuasive language".
The Brownshirts and Gestapo were not "rhetoric". The Brownshirts were para-military thugs who beat up and killed people. The Gestapo was the secret police.
But thanks for admitting you were 'attacking' Hillary. And your weird interpretation of what she said is just further evidence that you may have a reading comprehension problem.
Do you really need to have explained to you the difference between what I said and your off-the-wall comparison fallacy? Apparently, you do:
Everyone lies, I didn't say otherwise. But not everyone who lies is a pathological liar.
"Pathological lying is a compulsive pattern of telling untruths that may be related to or caused by mental health conditions or trauma."
"Pathological lying is a sign of some mental health conditions, especially personality disorders.
People with certain conditions — including narcissistic personality disorder and antisocial personality disorder — tend to act in manipulative or deceitful ways regardless of the consequences and upset it might cause.
Again with Hillary Clinton who has nothing to do with the similarities between Hitler and Trump. The more you post, the more I think your interpretation of what she said has more to do with WHO said it rather than WHAT she said.
Ah...falling back on the old "But the Barry Goldwater Rule!" excuse. When someone has their femur sticking up through their skin after hitting a tree, a doctor doesn't have to see them in person to say "Hey, you've got a compound fracture of the femur!"
Mary [Trump], a clinical psychologist, said her uncle failed to develop human emotion because his father created an abusive and traumatic home life.
There are decades of Trump interviews, speeches, articles, and interviews from those who personally interacted with him for years, etc. There's far more information about him from those than sitting down with him for an hour in person.
I strongly suggest a course in reading comprehension as this is one of several things you think I've said when I haven't. Really, the only thing you've done is to make snarky and irrelevant retorts with no facts disproving a thing I've said yet you think I'VE lost this argument?
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I definitely remember when that happened. There was a parade and everything. “Vote for Joe Biden because he’s Johnny Unbeatable!”. I still have the t-shirt.
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Cool. Who’s the Jacinda Ardern for the Democratic Party?
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Without a viable option waiting in the wings, there would be no point.
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I know good writing when I see it, and that, my friend, is very good.
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There are a number of factors why Biden running again.
No.1 is being the incumbent: no other Democrat apart from HRC has the name recognition.
It's rare that a President doesn't get elected to a second term.
It is pretty much unheard of that a Party can switch candidates and still keep the White House.
This is particularly problematic now, as no one, not even Biden, seems to be able to beat Trump in media attention.
Every other nominee would face a big: "Who??" from many voters.
Unfortunately, it actually is too much to ask for Democrats to pick a better candidate.
Of course, if you are of the cynical sort:
Biden losing gives Dems an advantage in 2028. Biden winning means almost certainly losing in 2028 to whoever comes after Trump.
No.1 is being the incumbent: no other Democrat apart from HRC has the name recognition.
It's rare that a President doesn't get elected to a second term.
It is pretty much unheard of that a Party can switch candidates and still keep the White House.
This is particularly problematic now, as no one, not even Biden, seems to be able to beat Trump in media attention.
Every other nominee would face a big: "Who??" from many voters.
Unfortunately, it actually is too much to ask for Democrats to pick a better candidate.
Of course, if you are of the cynical sort:
Biden losing gives Dems an advantage in 2028. Biden winning means almost certainly losing in 2028 to whoever comes after Trump.
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Rasmussen's Twitter account has been making all kinds of posts about Biden's mental health using that video that Sharkeu posted. It is also seems to be posting a ton of anti-vax crap. I remember Rasmussen being pretty suspect, but didn't remember it being this unhinged. Is someone there knocking back on Grandma's old cough medicine or did they get some edgy teenager to do comms?
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Elizabeth Warren, but you missed that boat, so the closest is probably Newsom.
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Accusing me of hyperbolic nonsense when you're trying to claim TRUMP is as bad (or will be worse than) Hitler is really funny.
Do you think people are more likely to vote Biden is the opponent is a demon?
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Bernie Sander would have been the chance to beat Trump and put the country on a different track.
Maybe.
But by being terrible, the GOP allows the Dems to be terrible and still win with whoever.
Maybe.
But by being terrible, the GOP allows the Dems to be terrible and still win with whoever.
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WTAF is that crap??!
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Warren finished third in the 2020 Democratic primary and Newsom has a 47% disapproval rating in his own state. I’m not sure where you’re getting the idea that either one of them are popular.
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Sanders couldn’t make it out of the Democratic primary. I’m not sure why you think he’s got the juice to win a general election.
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ISTR several polls last year which showed Biden was the only Democrat contender who stood any chance of defeating Trump. So insisting they should have picked someone else seems a bit ... odd.
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