You're kidding, right? Why limit it to muskets when bombs, rockets, rifles and breech loading firearms were available back then?
Would you also limit freedom of the press to printing presses and not TV, radio, film etc?
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You're kidding, right? Why limit it to muskets when bombs, rockets, rifles and breech loading firearms were available back then?
Would you also limit freedom of the press to printing presses and not TV, radio, film etc?
Ranb
Norman Alexander
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Well, this is originalist thinking.
The breech loaders were British, experimental and very rare. And not available to US citizens. All carried weapons were still flintlocks.
If you are a strict originalist, yes.
arthwollipot
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Next time I'm in America I'll go to a gun range - I've got friends who have offered to take me - just so that I can have experienced it.
Thermal
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A range isn't the experience. Downing a bottle of Jack Daniels in a pick up truck when someone remembers there's a loaded shotgun behind the seat is the experience.
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I believe you, and I'd be happy for you to show me the ropes. But alas I hit L.A. on my first trip to the US and if I ever get the chance to go again I'm going northeast and/or northwest. I don't have the means to do it very often.
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One trip to L.A. in a lifetime is (more than) enough. Technically, I've only made one trip here...one 39-year-long trip.
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I went to a gun range in Florida. That was fun! They just asked me if I knew how to use one and then handed me the S&W .44 Magnum and a Colt 1911 I wanted to rent.
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I think they still have machine gun ranges out in Vegas, where you can use theirs (it's not BYO Tommy Gun).
The sadly late wombat took a few people to a gun range during a TAM. I think they got to use machine guns. That was in LV.
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That was the "Guns and Nukes" tour.
Gun range not too far from the strip and then the museum of atomic testing closer to to the UNLV campus.
I was along for the repeat the year after but did not do the original.
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I did that in Chiang Mai, Thailand. They were not trained in weapons safety! One of the guys held my phone and when i said "empty" he just went in front of the barrel and took a picture.
Norman Alexander
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I have some questions for members who are, or who have been, in the US military. You don't have to reveal your branch or exploits, nor the specific weapons involved. These questions are about weapons safety.
1) What weapons safety training were you given when you joined the military in basic training? How was it enforced? How strict was this safety training?
2) During your service, did you use weapons on active duty? If so, what safety measures, if any, were applied when you were not in action?
1) What weapons safety training were you given when you joined the military in basic training? How was it enforced? How strict was this safety training?
2) During your service, did you use weapons on active duty? If so, what safety measures, if any, were applied when you were not in action?
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Never been in the military, I'd be interested in those questions too.
I'm guessing safety on if not in combat. Easy to turn it off if you need to shoot at enemies if **** gets real.
But civilian ownership is different than military. And that's what 2A is about.
I'm guessing safety on if not in combat. Easy to turn it off if you need to shoot at enemies if **** gets real.
But civilian ownership is different than military. And that's what 2A is about.
arthwollipot
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While we're on it, I'd also like to see some gun owners' opinions on this video. It's fairly long (26:01), produced by Brian Brushwood, who was a long-term friend of Randi, and about how to safely and accurately shoot a target. Some of the comments under the video are pretty complementary about the instructor.
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I did that in Chiang Mai, Thailand. They were not trained in weapons safety! One of the guys held my phone and when i said "empty" he just went in front of the barrel and took a picture.
Nice.
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Given the purpose of the 2nd amendment is for a milita. Is the answer not to limit gun ownership to those serving in the militia. In the UK that would be the territorial army. Not sure if the US have an equivalent but basically those signing up would have regular training and would undertake public service functions and where necessary be sent abroad with regular troops to protect the USA.
I would have sympathy with some of the arguments if the text said:-
Shooting holes in bits of paper, being necessary to the security of a free State...... or
Culling wild animals, being necessary to the security of a free State..... or
Defending personal property, being necessary to the security of a free State....
I would have sympathy with some of the arguments if the text said:-
Shooting holes in bits of paper, being necessary to the security of a free State...... or
Culling wild animals, being necessary to the security of a free State..... or
Defending personal property, being necessary to the security of a free State....
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