Cont: Musk buys Twitter II

That's horrific. And it's not merely devalued; after Musk's renovations, according to his own statements the business is now unsustainable.

The main problem for TwitterX is the $13 billion loan debt it has its books. Even if Musk hadn't changed a thing and Twitter had returned to "profitability", that would not have been enough to service the debt.

Musk engages in gaslighting when he claims he had to make the savage cuts because of the interest repayments. He makes it sound like he's trying to rescue the company from its debt, but of course, it was him who created the debt in the first place.

It was a good decision on his part to buy out the shareholders and delist the company, because he would be facing lawsuits now if he hadn't already been.

Wait, what? If he hadn't bought out the shareholders, he wouldn't own the company now and he wouldn't be the target of lawsuits.

You do understand that buying the company and buying out the shareholders are the same thing, don't you?
 
Wait, what? If he hadn't bought out the shareholders, he wouldn't own the company now and he wouldn't be the target of lawsuits.

You do understand that buying the company and buying out the shareholders are the same thing, don't you?

Yeah I'm not even sure where I was going with that; must've been half asleep when I posted it.
 
Yeah I'm not even sure where I was going with that; must've been half asleep when I posted it.

TBF, it is possible to buy up 50%+1, control the company, and yet its still be publicly traded. Its just tough. Because then you are buying up shares on the market, instead of making a take it or leave it offer.
 
Jeez I read Ted Bundy for a moment.
I tossed an idea in, I am seeing women in total control of media and Orwell in New Zealand, I am confident that Elon Musk is a far far better person than our indoctrinated femme fatales.
See the telecoms haridans cooperating to close out customers in about may.
TIL that the Prime Minister who resigned a year ago is still in "total control".
 
I am not offended.
I see Elon Musk's acquisition of X formerly known as Twitter to be the most important social event.of the last year, by a very wide margin.
There are countless people who feared opening their computers because Jack Dorsey had rogered their attempts to communicate.

These people sound like the weakest and most pathetic losers I have ever heard of.
 
If your biggest problem in life is "Oh my God, I'm not sure if I can speak my brains on Twitter" then you need to stop being a snowflake.

My biggest problem with Twitter pre-Musk is that everybody took it far too seriously. It was just a web site where people could dump their unedited thoughts in sound bite form. Unfortunately, this made it very attractive to the traditional media: instead of contacting a person of import or their publicity agent to get a quote, you could just look up their Twitter feed.

It got to the point where allegedly serious media outlets like the BBC were doing stories just about responses to Tweets by famous people. It's the exact equivalent of doing a story about the ******** people spout at my local pub, except the "journalist" never has to leave his laptop.
 
My biggest problem with Twitter pre-Musk is that everybody took it far too seriously. It was just a web site where people could dump their unedited thoughts in sound bite form. Unfortunately, this made it very attractive to the traditional media: instead of contacting a person of import or their publicity agent to get a quote, you could just look up their Twitter feed.

It got to the point where allegedly serious media outlets like the BBC were doing stories just about responses to Tweets by famous people. It's the exact equivalent of doing a story about the ******** people spout at my local pub, except the "journalist" never has to leave his laptop.

Oh God! I know exactly what you mean.

The Queen is dead! Let's look at some reactions on Twitter:

Eddie Izzard says "Farwell Queenie! You were the best!"

The actor who played Jeff in Peep Show said: "Oh bugger! I liked the Queen."

The actor who played Jim McDonald in Coronation Street said: "I'm Jim McDonald, so I am."
 
Many men, especially the straight, cis, white, middle-aged, type are absolutely unable to cope with modern young women who don't defer to supposed "masculine authority".

Seeing as your description describes me down to a t (much as I'd like to deny the middle-aged bit), I am mystified by people who think this way.

Maybe it's because of my upbringing and working life.
 
Musk can do what he wants with his platform. I don't really care.

What I have said in the past, and will continue to say, is that if you have any kind of internet platform, whether it be a social media platform like Twitter, a video hosting site like You Tube, or indeed a discussion forum like International Skeptics Forum, then you need to have some kind of Terms of Service.

This is a no-brainer for anyone. Or at least it should be.

I personally think that ISF gets it right (of course people will still complain about the moderation here, as they will anywhere).

In some cases, that means that certain words are censored. For example, you cannot use most expletives such as the f-word, the c-word or racial slurs such as the n-word. I am more than happy to accept that. I am not quite sure anymore what the terms of service are on X/Twitter, but I think that if you start calling other users a f-n-c then you will probably end up censored or banned. If someone is complaining that their inability to abuse other users on a platform is being infringed, then that person is a whiny snowflake.

Where to draw the line is always going to be a problem of course. Musk seems to have been persuaded that social media platforms are supposed to adhere as closely to the United States Constitution's First Amendment which I think is a silly place to draw the line and it is of course not one that he consistently enforces anyway.

Now Samson, I will be interested to hear if you have an actual substantial argument for what should and should not be allowed on social media. We can then have a discussion. But if you are going to point me to some tedious culture warrior like Gad Saad making **** jokes about "Oooh my wife wanted to get a coffee in Starbucks but was scared because she didn't know what pronoun to use to the barista" then frankly you may as well save your energy.

i agree and this is the interesting thing about it is that the moderation here is pretty heavy handed, which everyone kind of accepts since it's necessary to maintain some semblance of a serious discussion forum. you can't let the riff raff in.

the thing musk was wrong about is that websites do in fact need to be able to moderate their users
 
Seeing as your description describes me down to a t (much as I'd like to deny the middle-aged bit), I am mystified by people who think this way.

Maybe it's because of my upbringing and working life.
Ditto x2.
Though maybe not 100% straight these days, perhaps a 1....
 
Bollocks.
These two were banned from Twitter, and are welcome on X. Surely it is worth considering the merits of their claims. They are mature middle aged people who engage in long form discussion.
Jack Dorsey is a nasty piece of work, thank the good lord he has scarpered with his neer do well mates.
 
These two were banned from Twitter, and are welcome on X. Surely it is worth considering the merits of their claims. They are mature middle aged people who engage in long form discussion.
Jack Dorsey is a nasty piece of work, thank the good lord he has scarpered with his neer do well mates.

Is Twitter basically Facebook now? Essentially a place filled with 50+ individuals moaning about political correctness gone mad and full of brain rot spam?
 
These two were banned from Twitter, and are welcome on X. Surely it is worth considering the merits of their claims. They are mature middle aged people who engage in long form discussion.
Jack Dorsey is a nasty piece of work, thank the good lord he has scarpered with his neer do well mates.

The funny thing the idiot you quoted didn't mention is that even though she's permitted back on, there is no audience for her to address anymore. At least nowhere near what there was before. Also, the statement it's "the biggest message board in the world" isn't only unsupported, but has been proven wrong multiple times. Twitters user base is small in comparison to even TikTok.

She can be happy she got her account back, but the fact is in a few months time she's just going to be talking to people like you. People who agree with her beliefs and therefor she won't get the reaction she wants. She'll just get idiots nodding their heads along with her idiocy. Which isn't at all what she wants. She wants to chap asses, she wants to piss off the transfolk, she wants people to see her be an ******* and react. Look at Truth Social. No one cares what anyone says on there at all because no one is on it. That's twitter in, my guess, about 2 years. Just an echo chamber for ignorance.

ETA: Hell, twitter isn't even in the top 10 of social networks anymore. source
 
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I can't even agree with the highlighted, because any time you ask for the evidence tje transphobes say is agrreing with their position they either change the subject or point you towards articles which contain no valid evidence. The simple fact of the matter is there is no evidence either way, apart from the the dearth of trans women competing at the elite levels in any sport.
Your post is rather vague. Are you actually suggesting there is no evidence that men have a physical advantage in most sports?
 
My biggest problem with Twitter pre-Musk is that everybody took it far too seriously. It was just a web site where people could dump their unedited thoughts in sound bite form. Unfortunately, this made it very attractive to the traditional media: instead of contacting a person of import or their publicity agent to get a quote, you could just look up their Twitter feed.

It got to the point where allegedly serious media outlets like the BBC were doing stories just about responses to Tweets by famous people. It's the exact equivalent of doing a story about the ******** people spout at my local pub, except the "journalist" never has to leave his laptop.
Ask Paul Chambers how seriously Twitter was taken.
 
I read that even the conservative WSJ has said that Elon Musk is drug-addicted. If he is, that would explain a lot.
 

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