Cont: Luton Airport Car Park Fire part II

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Vixen said:
Before we go on to the next part of my exercise in 'trusting your own eyes', let's try this.


Look at the following pictures in turn and without making any value judgements or conclusions, make an impartial descriptive and objective observation on what you see in each. Describe:

  • the colour of the flames in detail
  • the colour of the smoke emanating from the flames.
  • the location of the flames in relation to the car.
  • The direction of the flames.
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Oh, I want to try!

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How's this one? Smoke similar to first picture. Admittedly, the flames are a bit less yellow, but the location of the flames is the front of the vehicle, just like your second and fourth photos. Being flames, they go up, just like in your first photo quite clearly.

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Here, on the other hand, is a video with quite dark smoke, no yellow flame to speak of, hard to say where the flame is, though it doesn't seem low. I won't be coy. While the previous image was a diesel fire, this one is an EV battery fire.

But I'm sure you could tell just by glancing at the picture.
 
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Vixen said:
Before we go on to the next part of my exercise in 'trusting your own eyes', let's try this.


Look at the following pictures in turn and without making any value judgements or conclusions, make an impartial descriptive and objective observation on what you see in each. Describe:

  • the colour of the flames in detail
  • the colour of the smoke emanating from the flames.
  • the location of the flames in relation to the car.
  • The direction of the flames.
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Congratulations on choosing four photos shot in four completely different lighting conditions, making them useless for any sort of comparison of objective qualities of the color of the flames and smoke. It seems like a "scientists" should know something about controls.

You're wasting your investigative talents. With analysis skills like yours, you should be applying yourself to the really big hoaxes, like the Apollo landings, or the earth being spherical.
 
Oh look, Vixen is running away like a coward from the points people are raising and pretending to be a teacher again.

Quelle suprise.
 
"You can't hide your lyin' eyes
And your smile is a thin disguise
I thought by now you'd realize
There ain't no way to hide your lying eyes."
/Eagles
 
I was thinking more of There's a Guy Works Down the Chip Shop Swears He's Elvis.
 
Steve said:
"You can't hide your lyin' eyes
And your smile is a thin disguise
I thought by now you'd realize
There ain't no way to hide your lying eyes."
/Eagles
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As Chico dressed as Groucho said "Who ya gonna believe, me or your own eyes?"
 
I can't wait till the fire service determines what kind of vehicle the fire originated from. It'll save tertrabytes of storage from this discussion and possibly reverse global warming due to less electrical consumption.
 
Vixen said:
Is this any better? Eindhoven University of Technology.

https://www.tue.nl/en/news/news-overview/03-07-2020-convert-your-old-diesel-into-a-hybrid

Convert your old diesel into a hybrid
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An old story about university project working with a commercial concern, XYZ Dynamics, to try to introduce a hybrid conversion for commercial vehicles. At the time of writing the project appeared to consist of control software for an as yet unbuilt drivetrain. Four years later the product is not mentioned on the company website.

Do you imagine that might be a product the owner of the diesel car fitted to his vehicle?
 
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Thermal said:
I can't wait till the fire service determines what kind of vehicle the fire originated from. It'll save tertrabytes of storage from this discussion and possibly reverse global warming due to less electrical consumption.
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It will do nothing of the sort. Our resident CTist will just continue to drone on and on and....

ETA just so I don't look too stupid - yes, I know that the type of vehicle is determined beyond any doubt.
 
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Steve said:
It will do nothing of the sort. Our resident CTist will just continue to drone on and on and....

ETA just so I don't look too stupid - yes, I know that the type of vehicle is determined beyond any doubt.
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Pretty selfish of you to keep that information to yourself, if you don't mind my saying.
 
Vixen said:
It was hardly anything to do with me that someone decided to turn my use of primes into a thread...
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Nobody decided to turn it into the protracted silly digression it became. The only thing which kept it going beyond a couple of posts was your hilarious twisting and wriggling to avoid admitting you were simply wrong.
 
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They don't do they? IOW there had been no further up date.
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More weasel words from you.

A statement updating their previous one gets handwaved away by you as "no further update" to the press statement, as it was not a statement to the press.

You invent a spurious condition to permit yourself to pretend your conspiracy dream is still alive. No. It shuffled off this mortal coil a month ago.
 
Vixen said:
The usual press release to all news outlets.
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What "usual press release" are you talking about? The initial statement you cleave to was a live statement made to the press on-site. It was not a press release. (Jenny from accounts does those. Didn't you know?)

You're making up a spurious condition. A hoop you insist they jump through. You're just playing Simon Says and it's frankly stupid.
 
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You do know how the news works, I take it?
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... asked the person who fails to notice the difference between a press conference and a press release.

Do we now get 20 pages about how you're not wrong about that either?
 
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