Luton Airport Car Park Fire

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Vixen said:
Why is it important to exclude a hybrid?
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You appear to be trying a different tack of begging the question.

Important to whom?

It seems it was important to the wot-I-reckon folk on social media that the car should have been a hybrid. If they hadn't made being stubbornly wrong such an issue, fact-checkers wouldn't have seen it as important to find out the truth.
 
Vixen said:
Again, why is the type of fuel important, if as is claimed 'it must have been an electrical fault'? If it was an electrical fault - hot enough to melt a Range Rover fuel tank - why does it matter what type of fuel it ran on?
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Again, important to whom? It's only the insistence of conspiracy-minded types to deny the reported mundane facts that made those facts an issue.
 
Vixen said:
Wait. Why are you showing videos of cars burning?
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Were you asleep? Sorry for waking you.

You haven't told us what sort of car this is
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Ah. You were indeed asleep. You're replying to a post which says it's an X5, and with your legendary attention to detain clearly you didn't bother to absorb the info provided the first time the video was posted, explaining that BMW X5 was only available with petrol or diesel motors.
 
Vixen said:
Yes, the fire spread extremely quickly. So why is it important that it be emphasied (although not by Fire Chief Hopkinson) it is a diesel car only and not a hybrid?
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Someone who was six steps off in the wrong direction thought it was important and made it an issue.
 
Vixen said:
That is not so. Nowhere does it say, 'It was not a hybrid'.
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I followed the link posted several times, and so read it on the fire brigade's own website. Were you asleep? It said the car was a diesel and not a hybrid.

You're welcome.
 
Vixen said:
That doesn't address the question as to why it is so desperately important to pin the cause of the fire (which of course cannot yet be confirmed until the investigation is complete) onto a diesel-fueled car?
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In the spirit of flogging dead horses, it is purely the contrarian insistence that the car was a hybrid which makes correcting that false claim any kind of issue at all.
 
Vixen said:
You didn't tell us how long that car had been burning for and its cause. If you recall, the Luton fire was reported promptly and was also alarmed and on CCTV, so the Fire Brigade was there promptly. You cannot equate a car that has just arrived and is spurting out classic battery-style flames with some old banger, likely set on fire by vandals, that may have been burning for over an hour.
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That video shows an example of the intensity of heat energy that is produced by a full-on car fire.

I linked to another video of an Audi A5 Cabriolet that catches fire after an accident. The video starts when the fire is still, at most, no bigger than the fire we see in the Luton video. That car is fully consumed by fire in just three minutes. And considering that it's an accident scene, I think it's pretty safe to assume that it wasn't sitting there for over an hour, and that it wasn't started by "vandals".

There's nothing "battery style" about the fire in the Luton video. It looks no different than the two videos I've shown, both of which occurred in vehicles that were never offered as either hybrid or electric.

Watching you make things up in the hope that we'll stick this asinine conspiracy theory (that you totally aren't advocating) to the refrigerator with a banana magnet is just sad.
 
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P.J. Denyer said:
It's a potential result of reading this thread.
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Well, I'm now nervous about that baby Li-ion chainsaw that I sometimes recharge in this very living room. Could melt its way through the floor if I'm not careful.
 
Jack by the hedge said:
When someone repeats information which was literally published on the fire brigade's own website, in what sense do you imagine they 'just made that up'?
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If Vixen can close her eyes and say "Lalalalala not listening" loud enough she can pretend that the fire brigade's only statement is the earliest one.

Or she can pretend that her bizarre belief that only that one person can speak for the fire brigade is rational and not an obvious attempt to "teach the controversy" by ignoring reality.
 
zooterkin said:
They said it was a diesel (in the definitive statement on their own website, that for some reason you appear unable to read or understand). They didn't need to say it wasn't a hybrid since stating plainly that it was a diesel rules that out. They also didn't say it wasn't steam or nuclear powered, among many other possibilities it wasn't necessary to rule out expicitly.
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For goodness sake, don't you recognise simplified English when you see it?

The website is a précis of what the uploader thought Hopkinson meant.

It is obvious. Recognise PR when you see it.
 
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