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Cont: The sinking of MS Estonia: Case Reopened Part VI

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Andy_Ross said:
So it wasn't sunk by it's escorting submarine ramming it?
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You see, Bildt knew the jig was up and that the Russians were going to sink the Estonia so he ordered an escorting Swedish surface submarine to ram the Estonia. For... uh reasons. The captain complied, for uh... reasons... or something. This HAD to happen on the stroke of midnight for uh... reasons.
 
Jack by the hedge said:
Is a Volvo 745 station wagon a model of Soviet army truck?
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Doesn't have to be a truck every time, does it?

Someone has looked up the details of that Volvo and came up with the following:

"(The white Volvo owner with registration number KUH 914 model year 1992 which is discontinued.) The first owner owned on December 27, 1996 and the second change of ownership was a company in Solna - (2011-7-20) third was a private person from Tibro (2011-08 -02)"

The customs slip showed the car belonging to a non-existent company called Ericsson Access AB, a fictitious subsidiary of AB LM Ericsson Finance. No address was given. Henriksson discovered later that the vehicle was a rental car.
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https://citizens-lives-destroyed-swedish-authorities8.webnode.page/estonia-disaster/

The final destination of the ex-Soviet technology is not known.

So, really? Customs officials were being forced to wave through dodgy consignments on dodgy cars with fake registration details...?
 
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lobosrul5 said:
You see, Bildt knew the jig was up and that the Russians were going to sink the Estonia so he ordered an escorting Swedish surface submarine to ram the Estonia. For... uh reasons. The captain complied, for uh... reasons... or something. This HAD to happen on the stroke of midnight for uh... reasons.
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As I remember Vixen's original claim about the sub was that it rammed the ferry by accident in the storm.
 
Vixen said:
So, ' the Swedish defence transported defense equipment with M/S Estonia, namely on 14 and 20 September'... do you see why people were concerned that military defence equipment was being sent, customs sight unseen, on a passenger ferry packed with little children, old age pensioners on an outing, a group of young mothers - whose children were now left without mothers - seventy or so Stockholm police workers on a conference? Is it right that this very proper concern about the nature of the cargo should be brushed off as a 'conspiracy theory'?
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And once again you try to use the victims as a human shield to deflect criticism of your position.
 
Jack by the hedge said:
Oh my. You've decided to double down and pretend that not only were you not fooled by the joke website which obviously fooled you, but you regard its joke as truth.

Hahahahahahahahaha <breathe> hahahahahahahahaha!
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I think it is perfectly feasible that a truck loaded with dangerous materials would be highly noxious and highly inflammable in some cases. There doesn't seem to have been much control by customs. Why wouldn't the families of the victims want to understand what kind of cargo was being carried? No mention at all by the JAIC and it is only thanks to a courageous whistle-blowing Customs Officer that we know potentially went on at all during September 1994.

Silve Linde got nine years jail in Finland for drug smuggling some time later. Think about that. Some guy who murdered another guy (see Inside the World's Toughest Prisons season 7 episode 1) only got six and a half years and the guy he killed only got four and a half years for serious kidnapping, torture and extortion. That should indicate to you what a big time drug smuggler the Estonia engineer was and how incredibly serious his crime was seen to be.


(Such a phoney laugh.)
 
Vixen said:
Doesn't have to be a truck every time, does it?

Someone has looked up the details of that Volvo and came up with the following:

"(The white Volvo owner with registration number KUH 914 model year 1992 which is discontinued.) The first owner owned on December 27, 1996 and the second change of ownership was a company in Solna - (2011-7-20) third was a private person from Tibro (2011-08 -02)"

The customs slip showed the car belonging to a non-existent company called Ericsson Access AB, a fictitious subsidiary of AB LM Ericsson Finance. No address was given. Henriksson discovered later that the vehicle was a rental car.

The final destination of the ex-Soviet technology is not known.

So, really? Customs officials were being forced to wave through dodgy consignments on dodgy cars with fake registration details...?
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The italicised section in your post appears to be from an article by Christopher Bollyn, which I found here

Do you have a more reliable source? Or could you simply link to the source you used? It's considered 'normal' to include a link to any such quotes.
 
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Vixen said:
I think it is perfectly feasible that a truck loaded with dangerous materials would be highly noxious and highly inflammable in some cases.
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There was no such truck, and even if there was that wasn't your claim, was it? Your claim was that it was possible that nuclear waste melted the visor locks.

So defend your actual claim. Explain how nuclear waste could do this. Otherwise you're just making it obvious that this is just a lark to you and you aren't serious.
 
GlennB said:
The italicised section in your post appear to be from an article by Christopher Bollyn, which I found here

Do you have a more reliable source? Or could you simply link to the source you used? It's considered 'normal' to include a link to any such quotes.
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I have added the link which is as in the post.

I am not aware it is your Christopher Bollyn chap as you claim.
 
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