Cont: Roe v Wade overturned - this is some BS part II

[Nosi]

Texas is not interested in the well-being of embryos, fetuses, babies, or the women and raped female children carrying them. Once the baby is out of the female womb, that baby is discarded in the minds of the Texas government and sometimes literally as babies are being found in dumpsters, usually dead.

 

[The Great Zaganza]

On Meet the Press, Trump continued to lie:

"New York and other places have passed legislation where you're allowed to kill the baby after birth."

Truth: No state allows this.

*cough*cough* qualified immunity for cops *cough*cough*

 

[Stacyhs]

*cough*cough* qualified immunity for cops *cough*cough*

 

[Silly Green Monkey]

Cops with qualified immunity can kill innocent bystanders, even babies, without facing consequences, if they do it as part of their jobs.

 

[Stacyhs]

Cops with qualified immunity can kill innocent bystanders, even babies, without facing consequences, if they do it as part of their jobs.

What does that have to do with what Trump said or Roe v Wade?

 

[Silly Green Monkey]

States who grant immunity to the cops are "allow[ing] them to kill the baby after birth."

 

[Stacyhs]

States who grant immunity to the cops are "allow[ing] them to kill the baby after birth."

Sorry, but that is not what Trump, or this thread, is talking about.

 

[The Great Zaganza]

Sorry, but that is not what Trump, or this thread, is talking about.

I was pointing out that many States allow plenty of baby-killing in any context BUT abortion.
And Trump and his fans are fully onboard with it.

 

[Stacyhs]

I was pointing out that many States allow plenty of baby-killing in any context BUT abortion.
And Trump and his fans are fully onboard with it.

I think that's more than a bit of a stretch but I won't belabor the point. It might be seen as derailing the thread.

 

[Brainster]

Trump has actually been vocal about the fact that the Republicans are going too far with the anti-abortion legislation, particularly Florida's 6-week ban.

Donald Trump is facing new blowback from anti-abortion activists for refusing to commit to national abortion restrictions and for calling Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis’ signing of a six-week ban on the procedure a “terrible mistake.”

Speaking Sunday on NBC’s “Meet the Press,” Trump repeatedly declined to say whether he would support a federal ban on abortion. He said he could “live with” the procedure being banned by individual states or nationwide through federal action, though he said “from a legal standpoint, I think it’s probably better” to be handled at the state level.

Regarding the bill signed by DeSantis, which bans abortions before many women know they are pregnant, Trump said, “I think what he did is a terrible thing and a terrible mistake.”

I mean, stopped clock and all, (and the slam at DeSantis is at least partly about the Republican primary) but I do wonder if he's trying to nudge the party away from the strict anti-abortion position.

 

[Stacyhs]

Trump has actually been vocal about the fact that the Republicans are going too far with the anti-abortion legislation, particularly Florida's 6-week ban.



I mean, stopped clock and all, (and the slam at DeSantis is at least partly about the Republican primary) but I do wonder if he's trying to nudge the party away from the strict anti-abortion position.

Nah. Trump doesn't give a damn about the abortion issue.

 

[Aridas]

Nah. Trump doesn't give a damn about the abortion issue.

I'm inclined to treat that thing as much like a prior case. In the lead up to his Presidency, Republicans were making noise about how the very first thing on their agenda was... enabling corruption and their lack of ethics. Trump took the super hard stance of "Don't make that the first thing on your agenda." And then Republicans did indeed change their plans to have something else be first on their agenda, and Trump received much praise for how amazing he was to make that happen and something for the propagandists to work with to pretend he was anti-corruption.

Seriously, this is rather similar. We're dealing with Republicans pushing something really clearly unpopular, with excellent reason for why it's so unpopular, and Trump is offering something very different from actual opposition. He's swiping at his main challenger and basically saying, "Don't make a huge deal out of these super unpopular things. I'll support (or not oppose) them, just don't prevent me from getting elected so I can support them."

 

[acbytesla]

Trump has actually been vocal about the fact that the Republicans are going too far with the anti-abortion legislation, particularly Florida's 6-week ban.

I mean, stopped clock and all, (and the slam at DeSantis is at least partly about the Republican primary) but I do wonder if he's trying to nudge the party away from the strict anti-abortion position.

And yet he picked the three judges for the Supreme Court that lied during the Senate confirmation hearings and enabled the present insanity.

 

[The Great Zaganza]

Trump has actually been vocal about the fact that the Republicans are going too far with the anti-abortion legislation, particularly Florida's 6-week ban.



I mean, stopped clock and all, (and the slam at DeSantis is at least partly about the Republican primary) but I do wonder if he's trying to nudge the party away from the strict anti-abortion position.

Trump 101: just say everything once, and see what gets traction.

 

[Darat]

Trump has actually been vocal about the fact that the Republicans are going too far with the anti-abortion legislation, particularly Florida's 6-week ban.







I mean, stopped clock and all, (and the slam at DeSantis is at least partly about the Republican primary) but I do wonder if he's trying to nudge the party away from the strict anti-abortion position.

Hasn't he paid for an abortion in the past? It may simply be that he still wants to be able to pay for an abortion, presumably it's cheaper than child support payments?

 

[gnome]

And yet he picked the three judges for the Supreme Court that lied during the Senate confirmation hearings and enabled the present insanity.

This is purely my own speculation, but I think judicial nominations in particular he was giving McConnell whatever he asked for. I'm betting it was part of a deal made to gain support from Republican congresspeople as he approached victory in the 2016 primaries--why Lindsay Graham flip-flopped so blatantly, for example.

 

[Segnosaur]

Hasn't he paid gotten others to pay for an abortion in the past?

FIFY.

I rather suspect that if someone looks in the books for the Trump foundation, or one of his super PACs, you will find a line for "unspecified medical services for women".

 

[thaiboxerken]

This is purely my own speculation, but I think judicial nominations in particular he was giving McConnell whatever he asked for. I'm betting it was part of a deal made to gain support from Republican congresspeople as he approached victory in the 2016 primaries--why Lindsay Graham flip-flopped so blatantly, for example.

Trump's all over the place on abortion. He bragged about getting Roe vs Wade overturned and promised to do so. He talks about being opposed to abortion legislation one minute and then takes measures to ban abortion the next. His position depends on who he thinks is listening.

 

[Mike!]

Trump's all over the place on abortion. He bragged about getting Roe vs Wade overturned and promised to do so. He talks about being opposed to abortion legislation one minute and then takes measures to ban abortion the next. His position depends on who he thinks is listening.

He's the 'tough guy' that is, in fact, just a leaf in the breeze when it comes to making a stand on positions.

 

[Darat]

FIFY.

I rather suspect that if someone looks in the books for the Trump foundation, or one of his super PACs, you will find a line for "unspecified medical services for women".

FTFY: