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Bigfoot: The Patterson Gimlin Film - Part 5

It's 2023 and I'm quite clueless. Where to start?

Are there still Bigfoot believers?

ETA: I just searched BFRO for the first time in how many years I can't guess, but I've answered my own question.
 
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ChrisBFRKY something or other, IIRC.

I can see Bigfoot Forums still exists but can't actually see the website. That's interesting. My current IP address is only three years old. I'm quite sure it was years before that that I was banned from that forum.

So many questions, but I'd rather ask than research.

Is Bob Heironimus still alive? I think not.

What about Gimlin? I think so.
 
I think we would have heard if BH died. Gimlin is still alive but I don't know if he's still doing the guest appearances at Bigfoot conferences.

BFF doesn't allow viewing unless you are a member so I don't know what it's like in there anymore. Far fewer members there I would guess. Drew says Facebook is where most of the Bigfoot talk happens.
 
Skeptical Greg said:
More like glowing embers, but they flare up now and then.

Great to see you..
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There's another welcome sight, SG. Very happy to see you, as well, old friend. I'm happy even for embers.

I see this section of the forum has only a handful of active topics.

I wonder has the smartphone slowly killed the Internet forum?
 
William Parcher said:
I Googled Bob Heironimus obituary and found nothing, so he's still doing the Patty Walk.
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I checked, as well. Yes, he is alive and hopefully Patty-stepping as usual. I'm very happy to know that. His mother passed back in 2017, RIP.

Gimlin was born in 1931 and will be either 93 or 94 now and most certainly his days of charming middle-aged chubby Bigfooter ladies at conferences is over.

I'm equally as happy to know he is still with us. Over the years I have come to have a kind of Saul Goodman appreciation for his accomplishment.

He really did nothing more than be wingman, horse guy and driver to Patterson, but he is very much a living legend to whatever remains of Footer culture.

To be honest, I miss a time when the PGF mattered more. We can call it that fluke shot from a thousand paces out. The combination of film quality, distance, lighting, and suit construction, of course combined with human desire for mysteries, but I wish Gimlin could have at least one more chubby Bigfooter lady dance at a conference before he rides off into the sunset.
 
kitakaze said:
There's another welcome sight, SG. Very happy to see you, as well, old friend. I'm happy even for embers.

I see this section of the forum has only a handful of active topics.

I wonder has the smartphone slowly killed the Internet forum?
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The American right going openly insane pulled most of the fun woo believers and conspiracy theories into political discussions instead.
 
There's too much amazing technology out there now to allow a PGF hoax.

At the time, hand-held equipment was nascent. Now, any fool can fly a drone over a patch of woods and get high definition footage.

The problem with these PGF characters as far as we are concerned is what James Randi saw - it's one thing to have fun with pretend magic or pretend monsters... but hoaxing for profit is a social menace.

Kids can learn that with hard work and diligence they can accomplish amazing things, discover new species in the Ocean Deep, even bring back extinct species soon I imagine.

Or they can learn that by lying they can get attention and money. So I don't have any nostalgia over the main characters involved here. The epicenter, Patterson, screwed a lot of people over - from little old ladies to grocers, the electric company, investors, kids who sent in money to belong to his phony club, etc.

Gimlin was a fool who also got screwed by Patterson, just used for his "Indian Tracker" mask.

Heironimus had the good character to come clean on the hoax and also admit he was taken for a sucker. He is the one person in the PGF we can respect.
 
AlaskaBushPilot said:
At the time, hand-held equipment was nascent. Now, any fool can fly a drone over a patch of woods and get high definition footage.
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I haven't looked at Bigfoot videos in years and I enjoyed the Ken's Karpentry drone video. I enjoy this kind of good natured fun....

https://youtu.be/vhnb4SXRqco

The problem with these PGF characters as far as we are concerned is what James Randi saw - it's one thing to have fun with pretend magic or pretend monsters... but hoaxing for profit is a social menace.
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I think we'll just agree to disagree what is a social menace. Fentanyl is a social menace. Bigfoot belief is very far down the stack of things menacing society today, and if it makes you go camping and poke around the woods, win win, I think.

Kids can learn that with hard work and diligence they can accomplish amazing things, discover new species in the Ocean Deep, even bring back extinct species soon I imagine.
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I wholeheartedly agree. I own a children's school. It's been a long time since I've shown them anything related to Bigfoot. We tend to get carried away with dinosaurs and black holes. But it's a wonderful topic to get young minds to think about things, what is objectively real, etc.

Or they can learn that by lying they can get attention and money. So I don't have any nostalgia over the main characters involved here. The epicenter, Patterson, screwed a lot of people over - from little old ladies to grocers, the electric company, investors, kids who sent in money to belong to his phony club, etc
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There's a wonderful channel on YouTube called Dude Perfect. Mostly college guys doing ridiculous trick shots. They ended up having one of their members going into space.

The reason I mention that is that what the PGF is. Some wicked Dude Perfect.

We can argue about how silly it looks and I'll agree every point that is silly about it, but nevertheless Patterson did achieve quite the three-pointer by making a film that has been discussed so long.

Should kids try to be like Patterson or stay in school? Who cares? Bigfoot is not sucking anyone out of school. My hat's off to Patterson for his bit of theatre that has lasted so long.
 
Cat Not Included said:
The American right going openly insane pulled most of the fun woo believers and conspiracy theories into political discussions instead.
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Boy, I miss those days.

2023, no Bigfoot, and a whole lot of Trump must do that.

What I would trade for some rants about Patty's elbows over corona and voter fraud.
 
Hi Kitakaze, there is little discussion anywhere we were used to seeing Bigfoot.

The newest Bigfoot craze is Tik Tok. Live Bigfooters going around the woods calling out weird sounds and movement.
Jeromy_Jazper_henson is the most entertaining and hilarious.

The most Bigfoot discussion i've found is at Steven Streufert's Facebook page, Coalition for Critical Thinking In Bigfoot Research. This is where most skeptical discussion takes place, with a special shout out to Ron Pine's Minnesota Iceman thread(s). He was working at the Smithsonian when the Minnesota Iceman and even has some of Napier's notes on the subject, and letters between Napier and CIA Director. This was where the Falcon Project was thoroughly debunked. You can also find PDFs of some of the great Bigfoot articles of the 50's and 60's archived there. you'll even find LAL there, Daniel Perez, Swepston, amongst others from the past.
 
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Speaking of LAL, on about the 8th or 9th page of the PGF thread that she was going to give up on the big guy if nothing came of it in 20 years, and here we are 18 years later and there's still nothing better than the PGF and the Sierra Sounds and the various other stuff that's maybe a little better than if you were trying to convince your toddler the easter bunny was real, but only a little.
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
I agree. Results vary depending on the person performing the test.
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Not so much that, but more so the "why" of the test itself, regarding their relationship with the subject. You should be skeptical of a test performed by an interrogator investigating a crime on a suspect they believe to be lying. You can safely disregard a test someone contracts of their own volition to establish a claim, because 90% of what the test does is make a good "store" for when the other side says they know you're lying, and things will go easier on you if you just own up to what they're accusing you of.
 
if anyone is on Tik Tok, I have been doing Bigfoot related live discussions, recently starring Patty herself. @mibeertaster if anyone is on there, follow me.
 
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