Electric universe theories here.

[Ziggurat]

Your that ignorant still, wow!

“You’re”.

 

[Sol88]

Cheers ziggurat.

 

[tusenfem]

So then please show us the electric sun circuit, and please denote what the battery is that is driving it all.

 

[Ziggurat]

So then please show us the electric sun circuit, and please denote what the battery is that is driving it all.

Oh, I think I figured that out years ago.

 

[tusenfem]

Oh, I think I figured that out years ago.

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ROTFLOL!

 

[Steve]

They proved the electric sun model,

Now that we are back to this again, please provide this model, complete with the relevant math.

Thanks in advance.

 

[ferd burfle]

There's a sucker born every minute. Nothing will come of this company. It will bleed true believers dry, and deliver nothing in return.

The linked page was good for some laughs

"Optical Spectroscopy" - not just spectroscopy, but spectroscopy based on optics!
"Transmutation" - Where's the cyclotron?
"Hydrogen Metal Energy" - [as Chris Rock]: "I think Randall Mills gonna sue somebody!"
"Dark Things" - Wowie Zowie!

The marks, er uh, investors will be impressed anyway, and that's all that matters.

 

[Ziggurat]

The linked page was good for some laughs

"Optical Spectroscopy" - not just spectroscopy, but spectroscopy based on optics!

That's not actually fair. You can do spectroscopy with x-rays, electrons, neutrons, etc, so it's not actually redundant to specify "optical".

But yes, plenty of other bull **** on that page.

 

[hecd2]

Optical spectroscopy clearly means visible light spectroscopy. But optics and optical are peculiar terms in that we have IR, UV and X-ray optics. In fact in our optical physics group we had people working on electron optics (which is, of course, not the same as electro-optics).

 

[Sol88]

Oh, I think I figured that out years ago.

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NASA missions find 'jetlets' could power the solar wind

Understanding the solar wind is fundamental to our understanding of our solar system and others throughout the universe

Jetlets, which were first observed over a decade ago, are known to be caused by a process known as magnetic reconnection, which occurs as magnetic field lines become tangled and explosively realign. Reconnection is a common process in charged gases called plasmas and is found across the universe from the Sun to near-Earth space to around black holes. In the solar corona, reconnection creates these short-lived jets of plasma that pass energy and material into the upper corona, which escape across the solar system as the solar wind.

So electric currents forming plasmoids seems important.

How are these current sheets formed in space plasmas? Ziggurat?

 

[Sol88]

Oh, I think I figured that out years ago.

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NASA missions find 'jetlets' could power the solar wind

Understanding the solar wind is fundamental to our understanding of our solar system and others throughout the universe

Jetlets, which were first observed over a decade ago, are known to be caused by a process known as magnetic reconnection, which occurs as magnetic field lines become tangled and explosively realign. Reconnection is a common process in charged gases called plasmas and is found across the universe from the Sun to near-Earth space to around black holes. In the solar corona, reconnection creates these short-lived jets of plasma that pass energy and material into the upper corona, which escape across the solar system as the solar wind.

So electric currents forming plasmoids seems important.

How are these current sheets formed in space plasmas? Ziggurat?

 

[Ziggurat]

How are these current sheets formed in space plasmas? Ziggurat?

You certainly don't have any answer. Oh, you might have some buzz phrases, but saying "double layers" isn't an answer.

What powers the sun? Also no answer.

 

[Sol88]

One would expect the power to come into the poles of the sun. Same as here on Earth and all the planets with a plasma sphere. Those bodies exposed to the solar wind would be like our moon, asteroids and comets.

Thornhill and Scott proved the electric sun model. I’m sure if they had some spare change they do another Ulysses mission.

Wouldn’t get hang up just yet sport on the power source, you just keep yourself busy working out the solar wind. You’ve only just come to the realisation that the solar wind has fine structure...of electric currents.

Pity mainstream have been usurped by the EU. Wouldn’t expect anything published in any peer reviewed literature. Why would they?

Science just doesn’t work that way, according to the United Nations.

 

[Sol88]

You certainly don't have any answer. Oh, you might have some buzz phrases, but saying "double layers" isn't an answer.

What powers the sun? Also no answer.

What are your thoughts on how the Sun producers electric currents from gravity?

Because you could apply that to all the other objects observed that are electric currents.

Including Jets from AGN’s.

The only battery mainstream have to power the electric currents is gravity.

 

[steenkh]

What are your thoughts on how the Sun producers electric currents from gravity?

Gravity powers fusion, and that in turn causes movement that powers an electrical field.

White dwarfs have no fusion but still plenty of gravity, and lots of rotational energy. I am not sure if they have a strong electrical field if they are not fed new material from a companion star. Which reminds me: EU denies fusion, so what is the EU explanation for white dwarfs? How do they form?

 

[tusenfem]

One would expect the power to come into the poles of the sun. Same as here on Earth and all the planets with a plasma sphere. Those bodies exposed to the solar wind would be like our moon, asteroids and comets.

But WHERE is the power coming from, WHAT is the "BATTERY"????

Thornhill and Scott proved the electric sun model. I’m sure if they had some spare change they do another Ulysses mission.

No, they may have had a mock-up of something, with a power generator attached. Where is the power generator in outer space which drives the currents powering the Sun?????

Wouldn’t get hang up just yet sport on the power source, you just keep yourself busy working out the solar wind. You’ve only just come to the realisation that the solar wind has fine structure...of electric currents.

Currents can only flow when they are generated, so just assuming "there is a current" does not cut the cheese, if you do not give an actual generator.

Pity mainstream have been usurped by the EU. Wouldn’t expect anything published in any peer reviewed literature. Why would they?

Well, as of now there is NO "mainstream" paper from Thornhill and Scott describing in detail how the Sun is driven electrically, because ... there is no way in space to do something like that.

Science just doesn’t work that way, according to the United Nations.

What does the UN have to do with all this? Are you now trying to make this a conspiracy?

 

[Ziggurat]

What are your thoughts on how the Sun producers electric currents from gravity?

Because you could apply that to all the other objects observed that are electric currents.

Including Jets from AGN’s.

The only battery mainstream have to power the electric currents is gravity.

That's incredibly stupid, which is why it's also par for the course.

Gravity is not an energy source for the sun. Fusion is. Gravity helps trigger fusion, but the energy source isn't gravity. Any idiot with the most rudimentary introductory physics knowledge and a bit of arithmetic can figure that out.

 

[Ziggurat]

Gravity powers fusion

No, it triggers fusion in the sun, it doesn't power it. I'm sure you know that, but the distinction is important here, we shouldn't be sloppy with terminology because we're trying to illustrate where the energy comes from. And gravity isn't contributing any significant amount of energy to the process in the sun.

 

[Ziggurat]

One would expect the power to come into the poles of the sun. Same as here on Earth and all the planets with a plasma sphere.

Then why aren't the poles glowing brighter than the rest of it? If that's where the power is, why isn't that where the radiation is? That's the case on earth: the currents flowing into the poles produce radiation from the poles, not from the equator.

Thornhill and Scott proved the electric sun model.

They didn't prove the model. Hell, they don't even have a model. They have a collection of buzz words.

Wouldn’t get hang up just yet sport on the power source, you just keep yourself busy working out the solar wind.

You have that exactly backwards. The power output of the sun is by far its most important property. The solar wind is a minor perturbation in comparison. Which is why we don't even need scientific instruments to notice the power output of the sun, we could do that since before we even became human. By contrast, the solar wind is so insignificant in comparison that it's impossible to even notice it exists without sensitive and sophisticated instruments.

So no, figuring out the power source for the sun is infinitely more important than finding out how the solar wind works. You want to reverse that because you know you can't figure out what powers the sun, because even though the answer is obvious, you can't accept it.

Science just doesn’t work that way, according to the United Nations.

Bwahahahahahaha! You don't have the faintest idea how science works.

 

[steenkh]

No, it triggers fusion in the sun, it doesn't power it. I'm sure you know that, but the distinction is important here, we shouldn't be sloppy with terminology because we're trying to illustrate where the energy comes from. And gravity isn't contributing any significant amount of energy to the process in the sun.

Yes, you are quite right. It is an important distinction.

However, I think my other point about white dwarfs is still interesting: what do EU imagine that white dwarfs come from? If normal stars are not powered from fusion, why do they develop into white dwarfs? Or do EU “theorists” believe that white dwarfs do not develop from normal stars?