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witter Inc., after laying off roughly half the company on Friday following Elon Musk’s $44 billion acquisition, is now reaching out to dozens of employees who lost their jobs and asking them to return.

Some of those who are being asked to return were laid off by mistake, according to two people familiar with the moves. Others were let go before management realized that their work and experience may be necessary to build the new features Musk envisions, the people said, asking not to be identified discussing private information.
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I'd take a lower-paying job elsewhere just for the pleasure of getting to say **** YOU here. And the best people are probably already headed elsewhere.
 
That or ask for twice the wage to come back.

I think it was Volkswagen who pulled a stunt more than a decade ago, where they offered a generous severance penalty for people to just quit. Of course, it tended to be the actually competent ones who quit. And then they came back as contractors for a LOT more money.
 
Filippo Lippi said:
There are fan boys, there is rumoured to be an army of them, but they aren't on this thread. I wonder if the scales are falling from their eyes?
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That's like saying that if there aren't outspoken atheists on the minor cat-fancier board I lurk on, they must be waking up or something. JREF is a really minor board, and thoroughly unattractive to a tech nerd who understands the implications of STILL not having HTTPS (hint: anyone between you and the site can get your name and password), so whether any of those supposed fanboys are here, is more a matter of chance and small statistical sample than anything having to do with the world at large.
 
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All I was saying was musk fanboys do exist, but not on this thread, and then speculated whether this latest disaster with Twitter would change their minds, nothing more
 
theprestige said:
People in this thread raise your hand if you've had more than 100 lines of code pass QA and merged into a production branch that gets pushed out to paying customers to generate revenue.
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Yes, but some of my most important contributions were single line fixes to other people's code. In fact, one time early in my career, I fixed a system that was crashing on start up by changing a single character in a code base of maybe 500kloc.
 
HansMustermann said:
Yeah, and I was just saying that we don't really know either way.
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I suggest you read the comment threads on some of the Ars Technics stories. The readership there seems to have swung completely from the "Musk can do no wrong" camp to the "Musk is a con man" camp. That may be because the people in the latter camp have become emboldened by his recent obvious missteps and post comments more and the people in the former camp are posting less to avoid getting roasted, but you often get posts from people that begin "I used to love Elon Musk and everything he's doing but now..." These people may not have been True Musk Fanbois, of course.

Anyway, I think the anecdotal evidence from my internet surfing is that opinion about Musk is shifting and has been for a while.
 
arthwollipot said:
I'd like to know who's saying that Musk is a total genius who can do no wrong.
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I think part of being a visionary is being willing to “swing for the fences”.

Tesla had a heck of a time becoming profitable, and could easily have failed at several points along the way. 20 years invested in developing reusable boosters could have resulted in a disastrous boondoggle. Widespread internet by launching a gazillion satellites into LEO using those reusable boosters? How many would have seen that as remotely feasible?

But I’m repeating myself. An inherent risk in swinging for the fences is the risk of striking out, and the fear of such failure likely dissuades many from making revolutionary technology a reality. Right now, Musk’s involvement certainly looks like a fiasco. But it certainly is entertaining watching it play out, however it goes.
 
timhau said:
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I'd take a lower-paying job elsewhere just for the pleasure of getting to say **** YOU here. And the best people are probably already headed elsewhere.
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HansMustermann said:
That or ask for twice the wage to come back.

I think it was Volkswagen who pulled a stunt more than a decade ago, where they offered a generous severance penalty for people to just quit. Of course, it tended to be the actually competent ones who quit. And then they came back as contractors for a LOT more money.
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A properly planned and executed "downsizing" would have tried to identify the key individuals/teams/skills and prioritised their retention (bearing in mind that the best people are very highly mobile and may simply leave if they perceive that the company isn't what it was). Twitter's "downsizing" has all the hallmarks of the kind where it's poorly planned and executed.

Only time will tell whether this, and all the other nonsense of the last couple of weeks, has caused long-term damage to the company and its reputation.
 
" So mister company rep, why did you refuse to put your ads around a bunch of folks making racist and anti-semitic slurs?"

"Do you hear yourself?!|
 
Lukraak_Sisser said:
Which is why Elon Musk is now banning all parody accounts (especially those making fun of him), to show is love of free speech.
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No, he isn't.

Here's the Twitter official policy:
https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/parody-account-policy

Parody accounts are explicitly permitted. There are some requirements imposed on such accounts to identify themselves as parody accounts, but they are absolutely allowed.

Now, you may have been fooled by misleading coverage over Kathy Griffin's suspension of her account following her mocking Musk. But that suspension wasn't for mocking him, but for violating their policies on misleading identities:

https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/twitter-impersonation-and-deceptive-identities-policy

Specifically, using both Elon's name as her user name and his picture for her profile pic ran afoul of the rules about misleading identification. She violated the rules, and consequences followed.
 
jeremyp said:
I suggest you read the comment threads on some of the Ars Technics stories. The readership there seems to have swung completely from the "Musk can do no wrong" camp to the "Musk is a con man" camp. That may be because the people in the latter camp have become emboldened by his recent obvious missteps and post comments more and the people in the former camp are posting less to avoid getting roasted, but you often get posts from people that begin "I used to love Elon Musk and everything he's doing but now..." These people may not have been True Musk Fanbois, of course.

Anyway, I think the anecdotal evidence from my internet surfing is that opinion about Musk is shifting and has been for a while.
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That I'm even willing to believe. I was only commenting on extrapolating that from just the presence or absence in this thread.
 
angrysoba said:
Musk is getting annoyed with the impersonators….
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Jeph Jaques of Questionable Content had this in a little blog post this morning:
I stopped posting all the time on twitter a couple months back, but over this weekend I did a bunch of satirical tweets impersonating Elon Musk and they went fairly viral and he got so mad he (personally, I like to think) deleted my account. Nothing of value was lost, a good time was had by all, etc etc. If you google around I'm sure you can find screenshots.
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Babbylonian said:
It's fun watching this worthless twit realize that more people think he's a piece of **** rather than real-life Tony Stark.
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That's worthless CHIEF twit to you!
HansMustermann said:
That or ask for twice the wage to come back.

I think it was Volkswagen who pulled a stunt more than a decade ago, where they offered a generous severance penalty for people to just quit. Of course, it tended to be the actually competent ones who quit. And then they came back as contractors for a LOT more money.
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Saw that more than once at Boeing.
 
Trebuchet said:
Jeph Jaques of Questionable Content had this in a little blog post this morning:
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Another account suspended for impersonation, not for mockery.

The rules are pretty clear, and I don't even think they're new. People getting themselves suspended this way aren't actually proving the point they think they're proving. Jaques may like to think it was personal because it flatters his ego to think that he matters enough for Musk to pay attention to him, but he isn't, and it wasn't.
 
Ziggurat said:
Another account suspended for impersonation, not for mockery.

The rules are pretty clear, and I don't even think they're new. People getting themselves suspended this way aren't actually proving the point they think they're proving. Jaques may like to think it was personal because it flatters his ego to think that he matters enough for Musk to pay attention to him, but he isn't, and it wasn't.
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So I guess the whole free speech thing is coming later?
 
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