High Speed Rail in Alberta gets a Boost

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TransPod Moves Forward With Ultra-High-Speed Tube Transportation in Canada

TransPod, the startup building the TransPod Line—a new ultra-high-speed transportation system—has announced the next phase of the multibillion-dollar infrastructure project in Alberta, Canada. Broughton Capital Group (“BCG”), in cooperation with China-East Resources Import & Export Co. (“CERIECO”), have agreed in principle to provide a combined $550 million finance and Master EPC arrangement respectively to accelerate development of a TransPod Line between Edmonton and Calgary and drive economic growth in the region. An already-released feasibility study on the TransPod Line revealed that the project will create up to 140,000 jobs and add $19.2 billion to the region’s GDP throughout construction, and the Master EPC arrangement is expected to involve significant contribution from Canadian contractors.

The feasibility study highlighted that the Alberta TransPod Line will add $19.2 billion (or 6.25 percent) to the province’s GDP by 2030. The Alberta TransPod infrastructure project will create 15,600 jobs per year, totaling 140,000 jobs over nine years. Riding TransPod will take 45 minutes from Calgary to Edmonton, at an estimated ticket cost of $72, compared to more than three hours spent driving or a plane ticket costing $129. Over the course of a year, the expected ridership between Calgary and Edmonton will reduce CO2 emissions by 636,000 tons per year, or the equivalent of planting a forest four times bigger than Calgary.

The next phases of the Alberta TransPod project will include research and development; construction permit; environmental assessment; and land acquisition (present-2024) in the short term. Test track construction, high-speed tests and certification (2023-2027) will be part of the medium term. Construction of a full inter-city line between Edmonton and Calgary (to begin in 2027) are part of the long term.

No government money involved (so far).

Lots of pretty pictures and marketing here: https://www.transpod.com/

California eat your heart out!
 
Fest? Why oot in Ulbarta she can go tharty hoondred kilo maters* an oor! That's if they kape the tracks shooveled. Once it's buried back oop with dart, no sayin' hou fest she can git along!

*Call that aboot farty Yankee miles in a forenoon. Let's see yer Elong Musth bate that! Or quit yer braggin'!!
 
If it’s in a tube, passengers won’t be able to see the scenery. That’s a bit of a shame.

I think in Japan there’s either high walls or in some places elevated tracks for Shinkansen tracks. Obviously, you don’t want any animals or people or anything else to be on the tracks.
 
TransPod Moves Forward With Ultra-High-Speed Tube Transportation in Canada



No government money involved (so far).
Lots of pretty pictures and marketing here: https://www.transpod.com/

California eat your heart out!

This would appear untrue.

Established in 1993, China-East Resources Import & Export Co. (CERIECO) is a wholly state-owned company
http://cerieco.com/English/index/index

So the financing appears to involve Chinese state funding.
 
240 mph in a tube. I do hope it never breaks down or otherwise comes to a halt mid tube...

linear motors have been the great white hope for transport for many years, and I don't expect that to change for this. As to useage, just how many people really need to travel from Edmonton to Calgary every day? No doubt the projected figures have a certain element of "build it and they will come" included in the estimates.

And then there's the towns in between on the existing rail line and roads? Missing them out completely?

smh
 
I finally had time to look at the link.

This is not "high speed rail", this appears to be a hyperloop idea. This is the same idea that Elon Musk was proposing a few years ago.

The website makes lots of dubious claims and I think that all of the problems that were pointed out at the time still apply.

A lot of the claims on the website seem to be just "too good to be true".

Like a top speed of 1,000 kmh. Departures every 2 minutes (at top speed I wonder how long it would take to come to a full stop in an emergency). The idea that this will be completely carbon-neutral.
 
I see it's one of those "operates at a profit" mass transit proposals.

Though I also see the profit is alleged in terms of regional GDP increase, rather than dividends to shareholders. I don't necessarily have a problem with that, but I'd like to see these proposals treated as investments just the same. If public money is to be raised for this project, then the public should be offered some sort of measurable return on investment, and some sort of recourse if the anticipated profits are not realized.

So, unless someone can explain how any GDP increase could be reasonably attributed to the project, and how the public gets their money out if it doesn't pay off, I don't see any reason to invest, privately or publicly.
 
I see it's one of those "operates at a profit" mass transit proposals.

Though I also see the profit is alleged in terms of regional GDP increase, rather than dividends to shareholders. I don't necessarily have a problem with that, but I'd like to see these proposals treated as investments just the same. If public money is to be raised for this project, then the public should be offered some sort of measurable return on investment, and some sort of recourse if the anticipated profits are not realized.

So, unless someone can explain how any GDP increase could be reasonably attributed to the project, and how the public gets their money out if it doesn't pay off, I don't see any reason to invest, privately or publicly.

the project will create up to 140,000 jobs and add $19.2 billion to the region’s GDP throughout construction

I read this as the GDP increase is the input to the economy of building the line, not a GDP increase as a result of the operation of the line.
 
Is that the same as saying it will cost $19 billion to construct?

Does it assume that all those workers would be idle otherwise? And other economic activity wouldn’t happen instead?
 
Is that the same as saying it will cost $19 billion to construct?

I don't think so. Money will be spent elsewhere on design, high tech hardware, materials etc etc. The $19 billion sounds like the direct input into the Albertan economy during the construction.

Does it assume that all those workers would be idle otherwise? And other economic activity wouldn’t happen instead?

Seems unlikely. Also depends on what that other economic activity would be, who would pay for it, and what economic benefit it would produce.
 
Who conducted the so-called "feasibility study"?

I really would not put any faith in numbers put out by the very company hoping to win this contract. It would be the most rosy and optimistic of projections. There's a conflict of interest.

For something this big, it should have an independent feasibility study by a body that has no special interest in the outcome of the study.
 
Who conducted the so-called "feasibility study"?

I really would not put any faith in numbers put out by the very company hoping to win this contract. It would be the most rosy and optimistic of projections. There's a conflict of interest.

For something this big, it should have an independent feasibility study by a body that has no special interest in the outcome of the study.

That would be nice... I doubt the Travel Agents Central (who?) journalists care though.


:shrug:
 
It's too bad we can't get Leonard Nimoy to come ride it.

But Main Street's still all cracked and broken
Sorry, Mom, the mob has spoken

Monorail!
Monorail!
Monorail!
Monorail!

Mono, d'oh!
 
I wish Alberta luck, I'm a bit skeptical. As noted by others, the projections seem excessively optimistic. I appreciate The Canadian and European investors paying for the research. So long as I don't have to.

With no government money in, I hope I don't have to, either. I like new tech as much as the next nerd, but at the speeds being discussed, wouldn't high-speed rail be a surer bet? How come the long-ballyhooed high-speed rail system has yet to get off the ground between Calgary and Edmonton... and why would Transpod have a better chance?
 

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