Merged The Qur'an corrects the mistakes of the false Injil/Torah

[Norman Alexander]

But you seem to be saying there is only one form of prayer in Islam and that is definitely not true.

I'm not the one saying that, he is. Consistency is not his watchword.

 

[Emre_1974tr]

Fasting, going on pilgrimage, salaat are not prayers.

These acts of worship include prayer, but they are not themselves prayer.

Salaat is not praying.

If anyone still doesn't understand, please contact me via private message and don't humiliate yourself further on the forum.

Peace

 

[junkshop]

...As for salat, only the Qur'an tells you how to salat correctly...

This is not prayer. This is salat. They are different...The explanation I have given in the link is to salaat/namaz.

Salaat includes praying also.

...I am saying that salaat/namaz and prayer are different...

...And pray alot of times. Salaat is not only pray/dua. They are different terms.

And only during salaat do you turn towards Mecca. But when you only pray, there is no need for any direction...

Fasting, going on pilgrimage, salaat are not prayers.

These acts of worship include prayer, but they are not themselves prayer.

Salaat is not praying...

Why did 'salat' become 'salaat'? What's the difference? Is there a difference?

I'm not the one saying that, he is. Consistency is not his watchword.

 

[Emre_1974tr]

Why did 'salat' become 'salaat'? What's the difference? Is there a difference?

No.

Salat, salaat, namaz...Same.

 

[junkshop]

No.

Salat, salaat, namaz...Same.

OK, cool. If the spelling, (or even the word) used is so unimportant, then I'm gonna go with goobledygook.

It nakes a change from woo.

 

[psionl0]

Only if you are willing to lie.

Previously you were talking about atheists, who believe no gods exist.

I guess I am not the only one who is lying.

 

[Lukraak_Sisser]

Fasting, going on pilgrimage, salaat are not prayers.

These acts of worship include prayer, but they are not themselves prayer.

Salaat is not praying.

If anyone still doesn't understand, please contact me via private message and don't humiliate yourself further on the forum.

Peace

Why does a god need worship at all?

 

[steenkh]

Why did 'salat' become 'salaat'? What's the difference? Is there a difference?

Without bothering to find my Arabic dictionary, I believe both are transliterations of an Arabic word containing a consonant that doesn’t exist in English. In one case it is ignored, and in the other it is given as a double a. The word is the same.

 

[Mojo]

Why does a god need worship at all?

So that the people who invented the god can be venerated.

 

[Emre_1974tr]

Why does a god need worship at all?

These are our needs, not God's.

Both material and spiritual.

Just like eating or art...

He who does the acts of worship is doing himself a favor. Those who do not do them are wronging themselves.

 

[Mojo]

These are our needs, not God's.

Exactly. People invent gods to comfort themselves, or because they want an unquestionable source of authority.

 

[Lukraak_Sisser]

These are our needs, not God's.

Both material and spiritual.

Just like eating or art...

He who does the acts of worship is doing himself a favor. Those who do not do them are wronging themselves.

So, not worshiping your god will have no consequences for those that do not do so should it exist?

In that case, what's the point of the Quran and Mohammed? If your god does not care about worship, why bother with a book that says how to worship?

 

[catsmate]

Bah, it's clear Bastet is vastly superior. Only when the Egyptians lost their faith in the True Goddess and her messengers did their civilization collapse. Bastet worship lasted millennia longer than this insignificant upstart called Allah.

Only once She is properly worshiped again shall the true kingdom of the Nile return.

Leonard agrees. He and his fellow felines are still devout.

 

[catsmate]

This is very important.

No it's nonsensical drivel.

 

[catsmate]

Emre, do you pray 5 times a day?
If you do, do you face Mecca?

And is the direction correct, given the Earth is an oblate spheroid?

 

[sackett]

"Face east! Face toward Mecca!"
"What if you're east of Mecca?"
[Brief pause.] "Then face around the world toward Mecca!"
"Isn't that just mooning Mecca?"
[Romantic melody on soundtrack.]

"Moon over Mecca, Mecca and the moooooon!
Stoning Satan in the afternoooooooon!
Circling the Ka'aba, oh! how many times!
Sunstroke convulsions in Arabian climes!
I swoooon
Over Mecca upon
My
Arabiaaaan
Duuuuuuuuuuune!"

[Segue to lively drum solo. Enter dance troupe, the Medina Bumboys.]

"There goes a ninfidel!
You say he's not dead?
Well pull out yer sword
'N off with his HEAD!"

[Keep it up for 90 minutes and you have a movie.]

 

[Gord_in_Toronto]

"Face east! Face toward Mecca!"
"What if you're east of Mecca?"
[Brief pause.] "Then face around the world toward Mecca!"
"Isn't that just mooning Mecca?"
[Romantic melody on soundtrack.]

"Moon over Mecca, Mecca and the moooooon!
Stoning Satan in the afternoooooooon!
Circling the Ka'aba, oh! how many times!
Sunstroke convulsions in Arabian climes!
I swoooon
Over Mecca upon
My
Arabiaaaan
Duuuuuuuuuuune!"

[Segue to lively drum solo. Enter dance troupe, the Medina Bumboys.]

"There goes a ninfidel!
You say he's not dead?
Well pull out yer sword
'N off with his HEAD!"

[Keep it up for 90 minutes and you have a movie.]

Monty Python and the Holey Kaaba?

 

[sackett]

I'm nobody's librettist. But you knew that.

Monty Python and the Holey Kaaba?

Hope, Crosby, and L'Amour. The Road to Mohammad's.

 

[Thor 2]

And only during salaat do you turn towards Mecca. But when you only pray, there is no need for any direction.

You can pray by turning in any direction, even lying down if you want.

Tell me Emre, have you ever thought of visiting a place in French Polynesia near the island of Fakamaru?

The place is directly opposite Mecca on the globe so you can pray (salaat) in any direction as the distance to Mecca is the same. Mind you, strictly speaking, you should pray facing down, unless you think your prayer will orbit the earth (under gravitational influence) to reach Mecca.

 

[Thor 2]

So, I notice Emre is not inclined to tackle the subject, about the absurdity of facing towards Mecca from all over the globe. Pity, because it is a clear example of the absurdity of this requirement, given that the Earth is spheroidal. Clearly the minds behind this, thought the Earth was flat.