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(1) This is a complex discussion. First, it must be believed. Secondly, a lot of research and effort must be put into understanding this issue. I do not want to go into too much detail. First of all, your views on this issue are low. Or you do not believe at all. Secondly, I have little expertise in this matter. And I may not be able to fully explain this to you. I apologize for that. But just for this important point that you said, I also say an important point. Quantum science has made many discoveries in this regard. And it goes this way. Of course, we all accept quantum science. The laws of quantum science are incompatible with the laws of matter. This alone is enough to understand that there are beings in the universe that cannot be proved by matter and through the laboratory of matter.
(2) I just mentioned an example of this in this group before. Let me remind you again ... In an experiment, Professor Suarez shone two identical photons at the same speed towards a mirror. They expected either to be reflected or both to pass. This happened. The item changed velocity in two photons. That is, it shines photons at the mirror at two different speeds. The faster the photon, the faster it should reach the mirror. To their surprise, they saw that the photon stopped at a faster speed so that the photon could reach him at a slower speed, and at the same time they reached the mirror. What force or consciousness was there in the photon to stop time and the corresponding photon to reach it? Is a photon a living being with intellect? No. So what consciousness governed and guided this experiment?
What is human "intelligence"? Roger Penrose, an English physicist at the University of Oxford, Professor Professor Hawking, a physicist, and scientists at the Max Planck Institute for Physics in Munich, Germany. The view that human "intelligence" is somehow related to information stored at the quantum level. And after the death of intelligence (information stored at the quantum level), human beings can remain as a storage file forever. And man can live with this information. This fact proves the resurrection and resurrection of all beings in the universe in a recreated way. And this is what God has repeatedly claimed in the Qur'an. That will do it. On the other hand, this issue also proves the advanced mechanism of teleportation.
Can these matters be understood in accordance with the laws of Article? While there. And it can not be denied. What we can say is: "The laws of matter in the universe prove some events and beings. And it can not prove everything. To find the proof of some beings that are not in the laws of matter, it is necessary that the laws And we have to have other sciences, and through them we have to prove immaterial beings, quantum science is an example of these sciences.
What I said in this message is completely documented and scientific. No one can deny it. My advice to all of you dear groups is to think logically and scientifically. And decide.
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1 - quantum theory is entirely compatible with what we call "matter" or "material objects". Quantum theory actually explains how "matter" is composed of subatomic energy fields. Did you never realise or understand that?
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2 - we have asked about those claimed papers of Suarez, Penrose and Hawking numerous times, and so far I do not recall you producing links to any genuine published research papers from those authors where they make claims about "consciousness" being stored in particles such as photons ... or where they have published peer-reviewed papers showing or claiming that "human intelligence is stored at the quantum level" or where they have ever claimed to "prove that human beings are resurrected after death"!
What you are doing here is looking for various comments made by people such as Penrose, where you think his comments or ideas will support the religious beliefs that you already had. And that is not a scientifically valid approach from you. More specifically – Penrose in particular has often made controversial proposals about the nature of ”reality” … in some interviews he has proposed that human consciousness is in some sense dependent on quantum level forces, but simply on the basis that functioning of the human brain (or any animal's brain) ultimately relies on atoms composed of subatomic particles that exhibit all sorts of quantum-level effects. But of course on that basis you could say that everything in the universe depends on those same quantum interactions … your eyesight and every other function also depends on the activity of sub-atomic fields/particles.
An earlier well-known mathematical physicist Eugene Wigner, especially towards his later life, also believed that so-called “consciousness” was/is somehow vital to quantum processes. John Wheeler, in his later years, also proposed ideas about a connection between human consciousness and quantum processes. In his case, IIRC, he got those ideas after trying to understand aspects of the well known Double-Slit experiment, which is of course the same experiment that you, Heydarian, have mentioned from Suarez … that double-slit experiment has provided all sorts of mysteries about the way that quantized particles (actually field disturbances) behave, and that includes things like entanglement and superposition … but just because various aspects of that experiment are still puzzling and not universally explained/understood, that does not mean any of the named physicists should have ever jumped to conclusions of some mysterious human consciousness guiding subatomic processes …
… I'm sorry if that sounds like I am suggesting that I know better than very famous physicists such as Wigner, Wheeler, Penrose etc., but afaik the vast majority of theoretical mathematical physicists who have worked in this exact area of things like the double slit and the perplexing results from that, do NOT accept that there is any reason to think that anything like human consciousness is involved (on top of which we do not in any case have any clear idea of what we should really mean by, or understand as, so-called “consciousness”).
Another factor here is that various famous theoreticians of the past have enjoyed talking in controversial terms, simply to spark debate and discussion amongst their colleagues. And I suspect this is a case of that kind … ie a bit of sensationalism to grab attention and to get colleagues thinking about what the real answers might be.
But the essential point remains – AFAIK, there are no genuine peer-reviewed research papers making any of the claims that you, Heydarain, are trying to make.
On a final note – if you really wanted to know more about the surprising and as yet not well understood/explained results from modern more sophisticated versions of the double-slit experiment, then you should get a copy of the book by Ananthaswamy “Through two Doors at Once” (see below for a cheap copy on Amazon). Although since that book does describe all sorts of puzzling results, it will probably just encourage you to make yet more mistaken and misguided religious beliefs about what that experiment shows.
Amazon cheap used copy of Ananthaswamy “Through two Doors at Once” -
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