The Russian Invasion of the Ukraine.

[GrandMasterFox]

I still can't make heads or tails from what the heck is going on. All newspaper outlets in my country give completely contradictory reports. Not just to each other but to themselves as well.

Even my Ukraine colleagues whom I last talked to before you know what hit the fan had no idea themselves. It's one thing that we don't know, but damn did the misinformation tactics worked well if even they had no idea.




On a side note, I already got several requests from friends to borrow copy of Animal Farm. I wonder if this will be a trend?

 

[dudalb]

I still can't make heads or tails from what the heck is going on. All newspaper outlets in my country give completely contradictory reports. Not just to each other but to themselves as well.

Even my Ukraine colleagues whom I last talked to before you know what hit the fan had no idea themselves. It's one thing that we don't know, but damn did the misinformation tactics worked well if even they had no idea.




On a side note, I already got several requests from friends to borrow copy of Animal Farm. I wonder if this will be a trend?

What country is that?
If it's Russia assume everything coming from the offical news channels is total BS.
And the Fog Of War is in full operation.

 

[Stacyhs]

Zelensky has said he will not meet with the Russians in Belarus. He's not stupid.

 

[dudalb]

Just read the Director of one of the Oscar nominated documentaries is from the Ukraine and is in Kiev.
That will be the obligatory Ukraine moment at tommorow's Oscars.
Would not be surprised if Mila Kunis or Milla Jovanovich makes a statment. Both have been pretty damn active over the past week in fund raising for the Ukraine.

 

[dudalb]

Zelensky has said he will not meet with the Russians in Belarus. He's not stupid.

He's seen "The GOdfather" He remembers how Michael was going to be set up to be killed at a meeting with Barzini.

 

[angrysoba]

I still can't make heads or tails from what the heck is going on. All newspaper outlets in my country give completely contradictory reports. Not just to each other but to themselves as well.

Even my Ukraine colleagues whom I last talked to before you know what hit the fan had no idea themselves. It's one thing that we don't know, but damn did the misinformation tactics worked well if even they had no idea.




On a side note, I already got several requests from friends to borrow copy of Animal Farm. I wonder if this will be a trend?

Fog of war stuff.

I don't think any of us can really know what is happening outside of the broad brushstrokes that Russia is launching a full-scale invasion and Ukrainians appear to be putting up a stiff resistance.

The details are murky, and of course everything is full of propaganda from one side or another.

Also, while this may come across as childishly simplistic, it is also true: Ukraine are the goodies and Putin's Russia are the baddies.

 

[Lukraak_Sisser]

He's seen "The GOdfather" He remembers how Michael was going to be set up to be killed at a meeting with Barzini.

And knows his history. The Polish Home government or the Hungarian spring organizers who were all invited to talk to the Soviets under guarantees of safety.

 

[dudalb]

BTW in war the soldiers on the front line generally know least of all what is going on except for the patch of it they are involved with.

 

[dudalb]

And knows his history. The Polish Home government or the Hungarian spring organizers who were all invited to talk to the Soviets under guarantees of safety.

And, anyway, Vlad the Mad is the last person on earth to trust.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Do you think it's good, that Russia is now targeting gas and oil infrastructure?

No, but they should already have done it.

 

[Andy_Ross]

BBC Rolling

Russia's central bank is appealing for calm amid fears that new financial sanctions could spark a run on its banks - that is, too many people trying to withdraw money.
In a statement, it said: "The Bank of Russia has the necessary resources and tools to maintain financial stability and ensure the operational continuity of the financial sector."

The sanctions against the Bank of Russia would stop it from selling assets overseas to support its own banks and companies.

Analysts predict that on Monday, when most markets reopen, the value of the rouble will drop - and Russians may rush to remove their money from banks.
"These new sanctions are likely to cause serious damage to the Russian economy and its banking system", said Clay Lowery, executive vice president at the Institute of International Finance.
"This will most likely exacerbate ongoing bank runs...causing a sharp sell-off, and a drain on reserves."

 

[Andy_Ross]

Foreign Secretary Liz Truss has told the BBC "we are urgently looking at what more we can do" to help Ukrainian refugees.
"It is a desperate situation," she says. "We are working with the United Nations and we are working with the Red Cross."
But the foreign secretary did not offer any further detail.

Easing the Visa restrictions would help.

 

[Andy_Ross]

President Zelensky has rejected Moscow's offer to meet for talks in Belarus. Kyiv says it is ready to negotiate with Russia elsewhere, but not in Belarus as the country is being used by Russia to launch its invasion into Ukraine

Also this morning, Zelensky announced that Ukraine is setting up an "international" legion of volunteers for foreigners wishing to join the Ukrainian army in its fight against Russian forces

 

[Andy_Ross]

Councillor Joe Porter, Tory Cabinet member on Moorland District Council, tweeted a picture of Boris stood by an RAF transport aircraft at RAF Brize Norton last night and tweeted

@JoePorterUK
Our Prime Minister @BorisJohnson on the frontline with our Armed Forces coordinating the UK's response to the invasion of Ukraine. True global leadership!
#StandWithUkriane

 

[jimbob]

Councillor Joe Porter, Tory Cabinet member on Moorland District Council, tweeted a picture of Boris stood by an RAF transport aircraft at RAF Brize Norton last night and tweeted

@JoePorterUK
Our Prime Minister @BorisJohnson on the frontline with our Armed Forces coordinating the UK's response to the invasion of Ukraine. True global leadership!
#StandWithUkriane

Even by Tory sycophants' standards, that is lame.

Surety the British frontline is Knightsbridge?

 

[Andy_Ross]

Vladimir Putin has given a TV address in which he thanked special forces soldiers for “heroically fulfilling their military duty” in Ukraine.

Putin said the soldiers had been tasked with providing assistance to the “people's republics of Donbas” - referring to two rebel-held areas in eastern Ukraine that Russia recognised as independent states ahead of its invasion.
"I want to thank the command, the personnel of the special operations forces, veterans of the special forces units for their loyalty to the oath, for their impeccable service in the name of the people of Russia and our great motherland,” he said.

He ended the message saying: “I wish good luck, success and all the best to you and your loved ones.”
The address was given to mark Russia's special forces day, which has been held on 27 February since 2015.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Zelensky is calling for Russia to be stripped of its voting rights at the UN Security Council - adding that Russia's criminal actions in Ukraine are verging on "genocide".

On Friday Russia used its veto power to block a Security Council resolution condemning Moscow's aggression and demanding it withdraws from Ukraine.

 

[jimbob]

BBC Rolling

Russia's central bank is appealing for calm amid fears that new financial sanctions could spark a run on its banks - that is, too many people trying to withdraw money.
In a statement, it said: "The Bank of Russia has the necessary resources and tools to maintain financial stability and ensure the operational continuity of the financial sector."

The sanctions against the Bank of Russia would stop it from selling assets overseas to support its own banks and companies.

Analysts predict that on Monday, when most markets reopen, the value of the rouble will drop - and Russians may rush to remove their money from banks.
"These new sanctions are likely to cause serious damage to the Russian economy and its banking system", said Clay Lowery, executive vice president at the Institute of International Finance.
"This will most likely exacerbate ongoing bank runs...causing a sharp sell-off, and a drain on reserves."

Good, I'm sure an appeal for calm would help.

THAT is the use case where bitcoin would have been possibly useful.

 

[The Great Zaganza]

Hitler reacts to Russia invading Ukraine

Completely misses the point - in my opinion.

 

[The Great Zaganza]

Musk wants to ship in Starlink antennae to make sure Ukrainians have internet access.
Not sure if this will go beyond the "intent" stage.