Cont: JFK Conspiracy Theories VIII

I think also that expecting someone like Oswald, who was clearly deranged, to be in all other respects completely rational is a mistake.
If an odd person does odd things, I do not see that as shocking.

So, are you saying that two torn bill halves in the wallet would suggest irrational behavior? An unusual occurrence? Please, elaborate.
 
There were no two torn dollar bills in anyone's wallet. That would be pointless. This has been explained to you.

I didn't claim there were. The whole debate is based on a proposed scenario, and what the implications might be.
 
I think also that expecting someone like Oswald, who was clearly deranged, to be in all other respects completely rational is a mistake.
If an odd person does odd things, I do not see that as shocking.

Are we having a discussion? Not as far as I know. But warp thinks we are. On planet sausage maybe.

No offense, I would happily discuss any topic with you at drop of hat and it would likely be most entertaining.

But I resent the accusation in this thread that somehow you and I are colluding in some way. Warp posts utter nonsense. That's the end of it.
 
I think also that expecting someone like Oswald, who was clearly deranged, to be in all other respects completely rational is a mistake.
If an odd person does odd things, I do not see that as shocking.

He wasn't deranged, and that's the problem.

He was a smart guy who had a big ego, but refused to back up his intellect with a college education, and instead lived a life centered around rash, and impulsive behavior (joining the US Marines, defecting to the Soviet Union, trying to immigrate to Cuba, and killing JFK). He wanted notoriety, and in death he achieved that.
 
So, are you saying that two torn bill halves in the wallet would suggest irrational behavior? An unusual occurrence? Please, elaborate.

Why would it be unusual?

I only clean out my wallet maybe once every few years, mostly when I buy a new one. I find slips of paper containing names and phone numbers of people I forgot, and at one point I had four VIP cards for strip clubs that had gone out of business in the 90s.

The difference is I can verify these were in my wallet. Nobody can verify the dollar-bill halves in Oswald's wallet, nor in which of the two wallets they were allegedly found inside.
 
Why would it be unusual?

I only clean out my wallet maybe once every few years, mostly when I buy a new one. I find slips of paper containing names and phone numbers of people I forgot, and at one point I had four VIP cards for strip clubs that had gone out of business in the 90s.

The difference is I can verify these were in my wallet. Nobody can verify the dollar-bill halves in Oswald's wallet, nor in which of the two wallets they were allegedly found inside.


I was asking Cosmic Yak, who referenced expectations of Oswald's behavior.

I think also that expecting someone like Oswald, who was clearly deranged, to be in all other respects completely rational is a mistake.
If an odd person does odd things, I do not see that as shocking.
 
I didn't claim there were. The whole debate is based on a proposed scenario, and what the implications might be.

You haven't specified a proposed scenario.

The dollar bill thing was addressed a few times in the older threads. There is nothing to it. And we explained that, so what scenario are you proposing? Without substance there are no implications.

A cover-up?

A cover-up of what? A conspiracy? The assassination files at the National Archives show that the CIA, FBI, and Dallas Police worked hard to link Oswald to a larger conspiracy, but failed. Why would they work so hard to establish a conspiracy and then cover it up? The FBI continued to investigate into the mid-1979s, how does that serve the purpose of a cover-up?
 
You haven't specified a proposed scenario.

The dollar bill thing was addressed a few times in the older threads. There is nothing to it. And we explained that, so what scenario are you proposing? Without substance there are no implications.

A cover-up?

A cover-up of what? A conspiracy? The assassination files at the National Archives show that the CIA, FBI, and Dallas Police worked hard to link Oswald to a larger conspiracy, but failed. Why would they work so hard to establish a conspiracy and then cover it up? The FBI continued to investigate into the mid-1979s, how does that serve the purpose of a cover-up?

Cool, explain his behavior.


Weird. My whole debate really comes back to this statement:

Having one intact dollar bill in his wallet would be more suspicious than having two already torn dollar bills.


This just seems an entirely nonsensical position. It is a tendency to handwave away data that doesn't fit a personal narrative.

Even looking at your above comments, you seem to be focusing on this idea of a conspiracy/cover-up. I haven't suggested anything of the sort.
 
Why would it be unusual?

I only clean out my wallet maybe once every few years, mostly when I buy a new one. I find slips of paper containing names and phone numbers of people I forgot, and at one point I had four VIP cards for strip clubs that had gone out of business in the 90s.

The difference is I can verify these were in my wallet. Nobody can verify the dollar-bill halves in Oswald's wallet, nor in which of the two wallets they were allegedly found inside.

I do about the same thing last time I cleaned it out I found a sharply folded 500 Dirham bill crammed into one of the 'sleeves'. I had last been in the a decade ago. An emergency reserve I guess!
 
I carried a partially torn Scots one-pound banknote in my wallet for twelve or more years after a brief trip to Edinburgh in 1999. It wasn't a souvenir, just leftover tip money. I never worked for the Scottish CID.
 
Oh hell no you haven't

.... My whole debate really comes back to... this idea of a conspiracy/cover-up. I haven't suggested anything of the sort.

Look warp m' man. After all this time and all this blather, why should anyone, especially the likes of you, give a flying **** who shot JFK? I doubt you know much about the man, or the blank brevity of Camelot, or the times in which he and I lived, or the futility of assasinating a president. Don't you have better things to do with your brief existence than to wallow through this tiresome old conspiracy morass? Please tell me that you do, and that the 12 you append to your handle is not, really not, your mental age.
 
I didn't claim there were. The whole debate is based on a proposed scenario, and what the implications might be.

When we go on hypotheticals, how about we consider a more serious one.

What if JFK was actually shot by a duck?

What would that imply? That's certainly worth some serious consideration. If ducks aren't harmless unintelligent birds but have capability to perform targeted assassinations. What if some other high-profile assassinations were done by ducks too? Martin Luther King? Trotsky? What are the ducks trying to do?

I'm not claiming that a duck shot JFK, but we really should consider why and how they did it if they actually did it. And how can we prevent them from taking over the world. Just hypothetically, that is.
 
So, are you saying that two torn bill halves in the wallet would suggest irrational behavior? An unusual occurrence? Please, elaborate.

No, I'm not. What I'm suggesting is that ascribing rational reasons for an action to someone who was clearly not rational is a mistake, and also pointless.
In response to Axxman300's comment, I would argue that wanting to murder someone is, by definition, a sign of insanity.
 

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