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Cont: Corona Virus Conspiracy Theories Part IV

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Childlike Empress said:
Well, you are babbling a lot here. Seems like it's you. In panic mode.
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If by babble you mean correcting disinformation, yes.

If by panic, you mean showing how (consistently) wrong you are, yes.

Your re-definitions are as amusing as they are amusing.
 
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EaglePuncher said:
Pretty ironic, coming from the person who is afraid of the evul gubmint.
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Their panic mode has long been abandoned and replaced by paranoia, and the inability to recognize objective reality.
 
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carlitos said:
Next you'll tell me that the CEO of Motorola doesn't even understand quantum physics, even though they are the largest maker of GPS systems in the world!
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I use to set up nursing and vocational High Schools in the Middle-East to create engineers and other STEM capable students for universities. I have zero medical and STEM training (Degrees in Archaeology and Business). While having no knowledge of what was going to be taught I still was able to HIRE people to do that while I dealt with the Arab governments to find facilities, people and equipment. I was as you noted just a manager not a subject expert and I relied on experts to do the curriculum.
 
EaglePuncher said:
Yeah, you're right.
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They haven't yet figured out that the vast evil & murderous conspiracy isn't going to be defeated by posting here.

They can 'fight' it comfortably at home here but in reality if said conspiracy did exist that would mean fighting - as in warfare and lawfare - and that would take real effort - money and blood - something they are not willing to do.
 
Hans said:
They haven't yet figured out that the vast evil & murderous conspiracy isn't going to be defeated by posting here.

They can 'fight' it comfortably at home here but in reality if said conspiracy did exist that would mean fighting - as in warfare and lawfare - and that would take real effort - money and blood - something they are not willing to do.
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This is sort of like the bigfoot brigade: lots of stories and claims, little to no follow up. If these CT-ers truly believed their claims, they'd take their evidence to venues that could actually implement change, but instead they post their nonsense on an obscure website where said claims are efficiently debunked. Then they repeat the debunked claims as nauseum until a new paranoid CT gulls them, and those claims are discredited.
 
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As mentioned in this thread, there is a far-right myth that athletes have been dropping dead from vaccines.

Paywall article from the WaPo

How the falsehood of athletes dying from coronavirus vaccines spread

“Of course, we’ve heard story after story. I mean, all these athletes dropping dead on the field, but we’re supposed to ignore that.”
— Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.), in an interview on “The Charlie Kirk Show,” Jan. 27

Johnson made this comment after he asserted that there have been “over 22,000 deaths reported in association with the [coronavirus] vaccines” — and then quickly adding “that doesn’t prove causation.”
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“Senator Johnson stated he has heard stories of athletes dying on the field and those should be investigated,” spokeswoman Alexa Henning said. “The Senator’s point in raising these issues has always been that our federal health agencies should be concerned about reports on adverse reactions related to covid-19 vaccines and they should fully investigate and make their findings available to the American people.”
She provided a link to a website called Good Sciencing, maintained by anonymous people, that has a blog post with the headline, as of Jan. 31: “577 Athlete Cardiac Arrests, Serious Issues, 352 Dead, After COVID Shot.”
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On June 12, during the Euro 2020 match between Denmark and Finland, 29-year-old Christian Eriksen suffered cardiac arrest shortly before halftime. Almost immediately, there was speculation online that the midfielder, who had seemed healthy, had a reaction to a coronavirus vaccine — even though his club football team, Inter Milan, said he had not been vaccinated.

Lubos Motl, a blogger and physicist with a history of making false claims about coronavirus vaccines, tweeted that Eriksen had received the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine 12 days earlier. He claimed his source was a radio interview with Inter Milan’s chief medic and cardiologist, an interview that never happened and was quickly denied by Inter Milan and Radio Sportiva.
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The spread of that one misreported fact snowballed from one misinformation site to another, to another, to another, to the social media feed of Senator Johnson and this forum. It's a nice forensic analysis of how these fake stories spread online through misinformation artists. At every step below, we can safely imagine thousands and thousands of social media shares of this info on Facebook, Telegram, Gab, GETTR, Twitter, etc. Not to mention right-wing radio and podcasts.

more excerpts on how the info spreads said:
  • On Sept. 14, another Austrian website, Wochenblick, posted a story with a provocative headline: “Dead doctors, dead mothers: Why have so many people suddenly dropped dead?”
  • A few weeks later, on Oct. 4, Wochenblick zeroed in on athletes: “Young people die after vaccination — athletes suddenly collapse!”
  • ...virtually all Report24 authors “seem to use pseudonyms or do not exist at all,” and the listed addresses for both organizations do not lead to an editorial office. The address is also associated with another online site, Info-Direkt, that also publishes false reports. Correctiv found numerous links between identified people working for these websites and the Freedom Party of Austria, a link that is “little disguised” given the editorial tone and subjects covered by the three websites.
  • After Wochenblick focused on dead athletes, Report24 picked up the ball.
  • On Nov. 4, the HighWire tweeted a translation of the Austrian article to its more than 100,000 followers.
  • Two days later, Granite Grok — run by what it calls “fire-breathing, right-wing, hard-charging, gun-toting, opinionated, outspoken, rabble-rousing, letter-writing, radio microphone stomping, Conservatives and Rational Libertarians” — also posted about the Report24 article.
  • The report then spread across Facebook and on social media.
  • But that same day, Wochenblick upped the ante: “At least 69 athletes collapsed in one month, many dead.” The article asserted that the mainstream media was ignoring the obvious connection to coronavirus vaccines.
  • By Nov. 16, the HighWire had produced a video titled “Why Are Healthy Athletes Collapsing?” that restated the debunked Report24 list.
  • That same month, the website Good Sciencing jumped on the bandwagon, posting a list of nearly 200 athletes and almost 100 deaths — which quickly grew.
  • On Dec. 6, the popular right-wing website Gateway Pundit reported on an updated Good Sciencing list that now claimed nearly 300 athletes had collapsed or suffered cardiac arrests after getting a coronavirus vaccine in 2021, with many dying.
  • By late January, Good Sciencing claimed its list had grown to 577 players, with 352 dead. (Any close scrutiny finds links of deaths to a vaccine to be highly tenuous.)
  • On Jan. 21, the HighWire posted a new video, titled “Healthy athletes are still inexplicably collapsing.”
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carlitos said:
As mentioned in this thread, there is a far-right myth that athletes have been dropping dead from vaccines.

Paywall article from the WaPo

How the falsehood of athletes dying from coronavirus vaccines spread



The spread of that one misreported fact snowballed from one misinformation site to another, to another, to another, to the social media feed of Senator Johnson and this forum. It's a nice forensic analysis of how these fake stories spread online through misinformation artists. At every step below, we can safely imagine thousands and thousands of social media shares of this info on Facebook, Telegram, Gab, GETTR, Twitter, etc. Not to mention right-wing radio and podcasts.
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How manipulative media gulls credules.
 
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How manipulative media gulls credules.
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I don't know if we have ever had a really good misinformation pipeline discussion; maybe I'll start one. Just reading that thread is incredible. A fake story about one unvaccinated guy dying became "hundreds of athletes" dying from vaccines over 6 months.
 
carlitos said:
I don't know if we have ever had a really good misinformation pipeline discussion; maybe I'll start one. Just reading that thread is incredible. A fake story about one unvaccinated guy dying became "hundreds of athletes" dying from vaccines over 6 months.
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One guy wearing a monkey suit in an artifact-ridden 60-second film clip equals tens of thousands of bigfoot "reports."

Of course that's not in the same league as dangerous disinformation.
 
EaglePuncher said:
Of course, it's always very soontm. Would we revisit your 'prophecy' in 1 year, you would claim to never have said that, like usual. :rolleyes:
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When we inevitably die at a grand old age she will be there to say ‘I told you that “vaccine” would kill you!’
 
Stee said:
When we inevitably die at a grand old age she will be there to say ‘I told you that “vaccine” would kill you!’
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Long before that happens Childlike Empress will probably be dead from a "a virulent disease contracted from a dirty telephone" (D. Adams).
 
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