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The Alito Hearings

So far I like Alito and he has a nice sense of humor and casual manner. Would I want to appear before him in court? Yeah, he seems fair minded so far.

A problem is that almost anyone can look intelligent and articulate when directly compared to congressmen. (Of course, Meyers didn't).
 
(I'm not bashing just commenting.)

From the outside of the USA I get the impression the only "political" issues are abortion, gay marriage, prayers/religion in schools!
 
Was this examination of Judges ever for the purpose of determining their fitness (as in legal training/experience and so on) or was it always about politics?
 
Was this examination of Judges ever for the purpose of determining their fitness (as in legal training/experience and so on) or was it always about politics?

Never moreso than now, I am afraid. But if the guy is not a nutjob, he will get confirmed.
 
(I'm not bashing just commenting.)

From the outside of the USA I get the impression the only "political" issues are abortion, gay marriage, prayers/religion in schools!
Those are the only issues that most people pay attention to. Actual politics is rarely reported on, even more rarely on television, and is essentially not discussed.
 
Was this examination of Judges ever for the purpose of determining their fitness (as in legal training/experience and so on) or was it always about politics?

Confirmation of Supreme Court Justices was traditionally a formality until the early 20th century. The Senate usually rubber-stamped nominees.

I believe it didn't become really contentious until the last 30 years or so. Ever since Roe v. Wade.

Then we started hearing the phrase "litmus test".
 
Brown quoted the following from Cornyn:

Judge Alito, the reason why these groups are trying to defeat your nomination because you won't support their liberal agenda is precisely why I support it. I want judges on the Supreme Court who will not use that position to impose their personal policy preferences or political agenda on the American people.
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LOL!

So after going off proclaiming his whole agenda and personal policy preferences, and saying he is going to support the judge because the judge apparently agrees with his agenda and personal policy preferences, the senator has the BALLS to claim that he wants judges who will not use that position to impose their personal agenda and personal policy preferences? The dipshirt just admitted that this is the whole reason he supports the judge! It's just that the judge supports HIS personal agenda and policy preferences.
 
LOL!

So after going off proclaiming his whole agenda and personal policy preferences, and saying he is going to support the judge because the judge apparently agrees with his agenda and personal policy preferences, the senator has the BALLS to claim that he wants judges who will not use that position to impose their personal agenda and personal policy preferences? The dipshirt just admitted that this is the whole reason he supports the judge! It's just that the judge supports HIS personal agenda and policy preferences.
Hence the problem with politics, dogma. He believes his agenda is not an agenda at all. He believes his view of those issues is the absolute correct one and and therefore require no debate. Anyone with differing views has an agenda and a judge who disagrees and acts accordingly would be an "activist" judge.

Dogma.
 
I've always viewed picking the judges as part of the "to the victor goes the spoils" result of presidential elections and have viewed partisan spectacles like this as a waste of time. The hearings should determine the qualifications of the candidate.

This is one of the main reasons I take voting for a president seriously. I'm reasonably satisfied the democratic process works for the "day to day" governance (works better when you don't have a monopoly party running things like now), but judges, especially the SCOTUS, have a much far ranging impact.
 
Ted Kennedy having his turn bashing Alito right now.
Apropos of nothing, did you know that Senator Kennedy has a dog named Splash? Does he have no advisors? No one who's not such a yes-man that he's willing to say, "Uh, Senator, maybe Rex or Spot or something would work better"?
 
Those attending the AVMA Political Action Committee luncheon July 16 at the AVMA Annual Convention in Boston were treated to a piece of Camelot—America's love affair with the Kennedys—when Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, accompanied by Splash, his Portuguese Water Dog, spoke about how veterinarians contribute not only to the health and well-being of animals, but also of humanity.

http://www.avma.org/onlnews/javma/sep01/s090101u.asp

Wow.
 
As I said earlier, Judge Alito's opening statement set a stage for anticipated responses to some questions from the Committee. From the current AP report:
"[A]s I said yesterday, when someone becomes a judge you really have to put aside the things you did as a lawyer at prior points in your legal career."
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Like Chief Justice John Roberts at his confirmation hearings in September, Alito repeatedly explained his writings as a lawyer in Republican Justice Departments as examples of an attorney representing a client.
 
Alito is right. As a judge, you don't have a client and aren't supposed to have a vested interest in the outcome, unlike a lawyer.
 
(I'm not bashing just commenting.)

From the outside of the USA I get the impression the only "political" issues are abortion, gay marriage, prayers/religion in schools!

I would add a few more to the list (death penalty and taxes) but you got the jest of it.

LLH
 
I'm surprised no one from the religious right has raised a stink about the song "Lake Shore Drive" that Judge Alito recorded in the early 70's with Haynes & Jeremiah, especially since it was a not so veiled glorification of LSD use. :eek:
 
Senator Specter seems to have caught Judge Alito in a bit of a waffle.
SPECTER: Let me come now to the statement you made in 1985 that the Constitution does not provide a basis for a woman's right to an abortion. Do you agree with that statement today, Judge Alito?

ALITO: Well, that was a correct statement of what I thought in 1985 from my vantage point in 1985, and that was as a line attorney in the Department of Justice in the Reagan administration. ... That was a statement that I made at a prior period of time when I was performing a different role. And as I said yesterday, when someone becomes a judge, you really have to put aside the things that you did as a lawyer at prior points in your legal career and think about legal issues the way a judge thinks about legal issues.
So Judge Alito asserted that his 1985 statement represented him taking the position of his client. But, as Senator Specter pointed out, this wasn't quite true:
SPECTER: But when you made the statement that the Constitution did not provide for the right to an abortion, that was in a statement you made where you were looking to get a job, a promotion, within the federal government. So there's a little difference between the 1985 statement and your advocacy role in the Thornburg memorandum [where Alito urged restriction and ultimate appeal of Roe], isn't there?

ALITO: Well, there is, Senator. And what I said was that that was a true expression of my views at the time, the statement in the 1985 appointment form that I filled out. It was a statement that I made at a time when I was a line attorney in the Department of Justice. I'm not saying that I made the statement simply because I was advocating the administration's position. But that was the position that I held at the time. And that was the position of the administration. (emphasis added)
So Judge Alito got caught in a slight lack of candor, and had to backpedal a bit. He made it clear that the position that the Constitution does not provide a basis for a woman's right to an abortion was his own personal view. Either Judge Alito held this view in sincerity without regard to his client's position, or he pretended to hold this view in order to secure a promotion. The former is more likely. His use of the term "at the time" (he used it twice) also indicates a lack of candor, as it implies that today he might feel differently.

Judge Alito said that he would keep an open mind on the abortion issue, and that he would give weight to stare decisis (the doctrine that precedent ordinarily ought not to be overturned except for compelling reasons). But if currently holds the view that there is no constitutional basis for a right to an abortion, then the open mind and stare decisis won't mean very much, in practical terms.

Although a couple of senators touched on abortion, the first one to really return to Senator Specter's line of questioning was Senator Feinstein:
FEINSTEIN: In 1985, at the time you wrote the strategy memo on Thornburg, the court had already held that Roe, Akron, and eventually 30 other cases, that a woman had a constitutional right to choose whether to continue a pregnancy. In addition, in your memo, you specifically wrote that in the Akron case, the Supreme Court reaffirmed Roe. However, despite this, your memo outlined a strategy to eventually overturn Roe. My question is a little different from what you discussed somewhat yesterday: What was your view of precedent at the time you wrote that memo?

ALITO: Well, I think there are two things that I should say in response to that. The first is that I did not advocate in the memo that an argument be made that Roe be overruled. And therefore, the whole issue -- had the government proceeded with the argument that I recommended, the issue of stare decisis wouldn't have been presented. And so there wasn't any occasion for me to talk about stare decisis in the memo, and I did not talk about it. I think there's a mention of it in a footnote. So I didn't address it and there wasn't an occasion to address it. The second thing I would say is that stare decisis is a concern for the judiciary much more than it is for an advocate. An advocate is trying to achieve a result. And so for an advocate, stare decisis can be either a great benefit if it is in your favor, or an obstacle to get over. But it isn't the kind of issue that needs to be grappled with in the way in which a court has to grapple with stare decisis. (emphasis added)
I've read the portion of Judge Alito's response that I've underscored several times, and it makes no sense to me. Stare decisis is a MAJOR concern for an advocate, especially for an appellate advocate. As any lawyer knows, any consequential legal proposition set forth in a brief has to be supported by legal authority. (This is at least good practice, and some courts make it mandatory.) More often than not, the legal authority is a precedential rule in a published judicial opinion. If an advocate seeks to overturn an existing precedential rule, or distinguish an existing precedential rule, or clarify an existing precedential rule, or expand an existing precedential rule (and all three happen in the Supreme Court with great frequency), an advocate's "grappling" with stare decisis is essential.

This was an exceptionally odd statement for Judge Alito to make. Too bad no one followed up on it.
 
Brown..

If RvW is overturned, won't that simply result in a bunch of constitutional ammendments in red/blue (can't remember which is which) states which allow it thus creating a new industry? I am beginning to think that RvW ought to be given the axe.
 
Some less noted events from the Alito hearings:
SPECTER: Judge Alito, during the confirmation hearing of Chief Justice Roberts, I displayed a chart. I don't ordinarily like charts but this one I think has a lot of weight because it lists all 38 cases which have been decided since Roe where the Supreme Court of the United States had the opportunity to -- Senator Hatch is in the picture now.

(LAUGHTER)

SPECTER: It's a good photo op for Senator Hatch. Senator Leahy's complaining...

(LAUGHTER)

LEAHY: We can just balance it on Orrin's head.

(LAUGHTER)
There's dignity for you. Almost as dignified as this:
SPECTER: And we now turn in sequence to Senator Kennedy. Let's not forget to start the clock.
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SPECTER: Let us see if we can't get that clock in the view of Senator Kennedy so he can see it when he's questioning the witness.

KENNEDY: Thank you. Thank the chair.

SPECTER: And give Senator Kennedy two more minutes.

KENNEDY: There you go. There you go.

(LAUGHTER)

(UNKNOWN): Bravo.

KENNEDY: Be quiet over there.

(LAUGHTER)

KENNEDY: Scurrilous dogs.
And then there are the "softball" questions. "Softball" questions, of course, are the ones that only a complete idiot would answer in a certain way:
HATCH: So let me just ask you directly, on the record, are you against women and minorities attending colleges?

ALITO: Absolutely not, Senator. No.
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HATCH: You were a proud member of the ROTC.

ALITO: I was.

HATCH: Did you enjoy your time in the ROTC and in the Army afterward?

ALITO: I was proud to be a member.
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GRASSLEY: So, Judge Alito, do you believe that the executive branch should have unchecked authority?

ALITO: Absolutely not, Senator.
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GRASSLEY: Do you believe that the president of the United States is above the law and the Constitution?

ALITO: Nobody in this country is above the law, and that includes the president.
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SESSIONS: Can you assure us that you will have the courage and the determination to rule according to your best and highest judgment of the value of the case regardless of whether or not it's the person who appointed you or the Congress who confirmed you or any other political pressures that may fall upon you?

ALITO: I can, Senator. I would do that to the best of my ability.
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SESSIONS: You've been accused of favoring an all-powerful executive a couple times in this committee. Can the president cut your pay?

ALITO: No, he can't do that. The Constitution says that, fortunately. Well, nobody can. The president certainly can't, and Congress can't either.

(LAUGHTER)
 

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