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George Will hates America

JLam

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Well, he MUST hate America, because he's criticizing Republicans.
The past five years, during which the number of registered lobbyists more than doubled, have proved that, for some Republicans, conservative virtue was merely the absence of opportunity for vice
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Wait...he IS a Republican! Huh?

I'm so confused.
 
I am never surprised by Republican politicians defending Bush, still. I am not even surprised that they in limited numbers are saying exactly what we have been saying for 4 years. What really surprises me, is the amateur echo chamber on mesageboards, still repeating talking points (you can actually tell which right wing hack they get their talking points from, by the way they parrot their talking point, if you watch really closely), still defending the indefensible. Where do these people get off? I can understand people in the south who only get their news from Fox or CNN, being a little unsure about what is going on. After all that’s their strategy, limit who gets what information and confuse those who get the correct information. But some of the fundies who still defend things like torture or the NSA are just beyond hope.

They clearly don’t give a dam about America and should be sent to Iraq immediately to clean up their own mess ;)
 
Including my sig, this is the second of George Will's columns that I have ever read (to my memory), so my George Will context is relatively narrow.

However, what I see here is a traditional conservative criticizing a not-so-traditionally-conservative Republican party and I say more power to him.
 
George Will is a conservative columnist. However, he is not a partisan columnist. He will criticize Republican whom he disagrees with. I do not particular like Will's viewpoint nor do I think he is particularly insiteful. However, I do respect him for showing the flaws of his allies. This is something that the more rabid and typically younger commentators lack.

CBL
 
Grammatron said:
Aside from some BS rhetoric from some of the posters here, when did criticizing Republicans become the same as hating America?
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Many of the "skeptical" liberals here have abandoned arguing with actual people and instead confront Steven Colberts parody of conservatism from Comedy Central's "The Colbert Report."

You must agree it's much easier than debating real ideas with real people.
 
It's becoming harder and harder to distinguish absurdist versions of conservatism from actual versions of conservatism. You've helped to blur that line more than a little, Mycroft. What makes you think you can pretend the distinction is still clear?
 
Melendwyr said:
It's becoming harder and harder to distinguish absurdist versions of conservatism from actual versions of conservatism.
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I disagree, at least for rational people. Your perceptual problems can not be blamed on others.

Melendwyr said:
You've helped to blur that line more than a little, Mycroft. What makes you think you can pretend the distinction is still clear?
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http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=1363723#post1363723

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=1363701#post1363701

:oldroll:
 
Grammatron said:
Aside from some BS rhetoric from some of the posters here, when did criticizing Republicans become the same as hating America?
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It's always been the same thing in the wonderful land of sarcasm, from which I think the comment hailed.
 
Heck, Republicans argue amongst ourselves all the time. We just normally don't bother to tell the Democrats on account of they're just not relevent. :D
 
Mycroft said:
Many of the "skeptical" liberals here have abandoned arguing with actual people and instead confront Steven Colberts parody of conservatism from Comedy Central's "The Colbert Report."

You must agree it's much easier than debating real ideas with real people.
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ANd the "skeptical" conservatives here NEVER joust at straw liberalism. No siree, bob. That would be, like, wrong and stuff.

Honestly, I find that partisans on both sides have straw versions of the other side that they love to beat up on.
 
I was making a slight joke about the more partisan conservative commentators who sometimes equate dissent with "hating America." It was just a little joke.

I don't consider myself a conservative, but I'm not a liberal either. I like George Will because he doesn't simply tout the current party line. He's a true conservative who sticks to his positions, and that's admirable whether you agree with him or not.
 
Mr. Will does not always criticize Republicans nor take sides with Democrats when it might be appropriate to do either. He has his agenda just like any other commentator. That he, er, will take on an issue doesn't mean he's always Mr. Fair-minded.

I do enjoy his musings on baseball though.
 
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