Cont: Corona Virus Conspiracy Theories Part IV

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Hans said:
Lets us not forget that 100% of the people who breath air - die, 100%
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Actually, you can argue it's when they STOP breathing air, they die...

...too... That's nature's catch-22 for ya'.
 
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Craig4 said:
https://covid-101.org/science/how-many-people-have-died-from-the-vaccine-in-the-u-s/

As of July, there were three deaths associated with the J&J vaccine from blood clots. Other studies are ongoing. At that time VARS reported about 6000 people (ish) who died after getting the vaccine but obviously, that doesn't mean they died from the vaccine. People still have stroke and heart attacks and get sick from other things that aren't COVID. Any other basic and easily answered questions I can clear up for you?
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Thats nice. Thanks.

VAERS reporting is voluntary.

How many non-fatal adverse events were not reported ?

How many were killed by the injections, which were not reported ?
 
Bubba said:
Thats nice. Thanks.

VAERS reporting is voluntary.

How many non-fatal adverse events were not reported ?

How many were killed by the injections, which were not reported ?
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So you are asking that we account for incidents that were never reported?

Can you see a problem there?
 
Piss drinking, anti-vax cement-head is also a sov-cit.
Anti-COVID-19 “Vaccine Police” leader Christopher Key, who has set out on a cross-country road trip with the end goal of conducting citizen arrests of Democratic governors, says he doesn’t need a driver’s license, despite operating a motor vehicle. “I travel,” Key told The Daily Beast late on Monday evening, making the pointless distinction between “traveling” and “driving.” “My car is not a car. My car is my wagon, with wagon wheels,” he continued, insisting he doesn’t need a driver’s license to operate his car, which is currently wrapped with graphics claiming the COVID-19 vaccine a “bio-weapon.” “You only drive if you are committing commerce,” Key added. “The only people that need a driver’s license are truck drivers, Uber drivers, FedEx drivers, but if you understand your constitutional rights, you have the ‘life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness.’”
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Well of course.
 
Bubba said:
Thats nice. Thanks.

VAERS reporting is voluntary.

How many non-fatal adverse events were not reported ?

How many were killed by the injections, which were not reported ?
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As has been explained to you many times, this is why no reliable conclusions can be made from raw VAERS data alone. All it can do is give early warning of potential problems, alerting scientists to possible correlations that warrant investigation.

Meanwhile vast amounts of data are collected every year about the incidence of every kind of health problem. If there is a significant increase in any one of them it will quickly become apparent, and be investigated. It is to this data that scientists will look to identify any actual effects of the vaccines. All the VAERS data can do is suggest where to look first.

That is how the blood clot problem was found, and it is how any other real problem with the vaccines will be found
 
Just recently there was a so-called "sovereign citizen" incident near me. It didn't end well for her. She was told in no uncertain terms that the rules do apply to her, whether she wants them to or not.

Canberra woman who claimed she was a 'sovereign state' fined for breaching public health directions

A woman who refused to check in at a Canberra store during the height of the 2021 COVID-19 outbreak has been fined $450.

Elvira Shagabuddinova was found guilty of trespass, failing to comply with public health directions and refusing to provide her name to police in the ACT Magistrates Court today.

The 39-year-old was arrested in August 2021 after she failed to check-in at a St Vincent de Paul store in Greenway, in Canberra's south, as per the ACT government mandate.

She did not appear in court today, but had previously told the court she was exempt from public health orders as she was a "sovereign state".
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ETA: Also, this piece of human garbage was reportedly a sovereign stater:

Old Parliament House arson suspect back behind bars after breaching bail

A 30-year-old man from Gippsland in Victoria who allegedly set fire to the doors of Old Parliament House last week is back behind bars within hours of being granted bail in the ACT Magistrates Court.

The man, whose name was suppressed by the court, was charged with arson and damage to Commonwealth property following a joint investigation by ACT Policing and the Australian Federal Police.

On Tuesday, the court heard more details about how authorities believe the fire took hold of the historic building's front entrance, with the man allegedly carrying burning coals from a nearby fire to the front doors.
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abaddon said:
So you are asking that we account for incidents that were never reported?
Can you see a problem there?
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Thanks for sharing. The point is no one knows of the non reported incidents.


I was hoping you'd notice that there is no way to know how many deaths the injections have caused.
 
Dr. Paul Marik's Story

Dr. Paul Marik's story starts at 4:19:00. He was targeted, fired and put in a database of "bad physicians" because he provided treatment for COVID patients instead of doing nothing as he was ordered to do by the hospital.

Dr. Marik has the distinction of being the most published intensivist in the history of medicine, and he is in the top five most published American medical authors in history, on top of being the editor of two medical journals. Dr. Marik has contributed 782 publications to the medical literature, with over 48,000 citations to his work as listed by Google Scholar.

Dr. Marik has never been accused of recklessly practicing medicine for any condition, other than COVID, over the course of his 40 year medical career. At the time of his discharge by the hospital, his COVID treatment record had 50% less mortality than his peers.

https://rumble.com/vt62y6-covid-19-a-second-opinion.html
 
Might be worth checking out Wikipedia for an unbiased account.

Paul E. Marik

Relevant extracts:

Paul Ellis Marik (born 26 March 1958) was a professor of medicine who served as chair of the Division of Pulmonary and Critical Care Medicine at Eastern Virginia Medical School in Norfolk, Virginia, and as a critical care doctor at Sentara Norfolk General Hospital. His research interests include sepsis and tissue oxygenation.

Marik developed the "Marik protocol" (also called the "HAT" protocol), a now discredited treatment for preventing sepsis. He is a co-leader of the Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance (FLCCC), which has advocated for the anti-parasitic drug ivermectin to treat COVID-19 against the advice of leading health agencies. Marik has called himself a "status quo destabilizer".

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Marik is a co-founder of the Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance (FLCCC), a group of physicians and former journalists formed in April 2020 advocating for ineffective COVID-19 treatments, including the anti-parasitic drug ivermectin.

Marik was lead author of a journal article on the efficacy of ivermectin as a COVID-19 treatment, which had been provisionally accepted for publication by a Frontiers Media journal in early 2021, but which was subsequently rejected on account of what the publisher said were "a series of strong, unsupported claims based on studies with insufficient statistical significance" meaning that the article did "not offer an objective [or] balanced scientific contribution to the evaluation of ivermectin as a potential treatment for COVID-19".

In November 2021, the Journal of Intensive Care Medicine retracted a paper written by Marik and others associated with the FLCCC, including Pierre Kory. The paper promoted a combination of vitamins and drugs as treatment for patients hospitalized for COVID-19. The combination was called MATH+ by the FLCCC and included methylprednisolone, ascorbic acid, thiamine, heparin, and other ingredients. The retraction was triggered when it was found the paper misreported the mortality figures of hospitalized patients treated with MATH+, falsely making it appear to be an effective treatment.

Marik sued his employer, Sentara Health, in November 2021, attempting to override its ban on prescribing ivermectin for COVID-19. His clinical privileges at the Sentara Norfolk General Hospital were suspended shortly afterward, according to his attorney. He resigned from the Eastern Virginia Medical School in December 2021.
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Bubba said:
Thanks for sharing. The point is no one knows of the non reported incidents.


I was hoping you'd notice that there is no way to know how many deaths the injections have caused.
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Nor the exponentially higher deaths caused by your and your cohort's lies.

Oh wait...

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There’s a 13-year-old boy whose antivax father — an intelligent, accomplished man in his early fifties — died last month of Covid-19. Go to the father’s Twitter feed and it’s the usual story: he warns*followers that governments have “radicalised”, that Pfizer jabs*are perilous and long Covid is*an invention, then tweets casually that he has tested positive, before his feed suddenly goes silent, for ever.

Many vaccinated people enjoy mocking deaths like his. That’s harsh. We all make wrong choices every day, but they don’t usually kill us. Above all, though, vaxenfreude, as it’s now called, ignores the people left behind.

The worst harm that antivaxxers do is to their families, whom they expose to daily danger and then sometimes plunge into a grief that cannot speak its name. The harm will reverberate down the generations. How will it shape the millions of bereaved and their relationship to the rest of us?

Antivaxxers will tend to blame the victim’s supposed physical weakness or pretend that the death wasn’t from Covid-19

For most inhabitants of rich countries, Covid-19 is no longer lethal, but for the voluntarily unvaccinated, it’s a slaughter they don’t understand. Their risk of Covid-related death is 14 times that of vaccinated people, says Rochelle Walensky, director of the US’s Centers for Disease Control.

Just between June and November, 163,000 Covid-19 deaths in the US alone could have been prevented by vaccination, estimates the Kaiser Family Foundation. That’s nearly double all the American deaths in war in Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq combined — and the unvaccinated continue to die, pointlessly.

For each unvaccinated American death, about nine people lose a grandparent, parent, sibling, spouse or child. Probably the most distressing thing about Covid-19 is its relentless orphaning, which recalls the HIV epidemic in Africa*or the Great Flu of 1918. Think of the children of Kevin and Misty Mitchem, a couple in their forties who chose not to be vaccinated and who died of Covid within days of each other in October.
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How 'proud' does that make you feel Bubba?
 
Yeah, this is one of the ivermectin main guys.

So, he had a protocol for treating Covid. It didn't work. He wrote a paper with Kory in which they lied about the effectiveness of the treatment. The paper was retracted.

He sued his employer, then got suspended.

Now he is touting himself as a victim of Big Pharma.

Is that about right?
 
That's correct. He went off the deep-end and treated patients with the off-label use of a drug because he found it reduced the mortality of his patients by 50%.

That's not allowed.

Oh, and that "rejected" paper was ultimately published. There was no malfeasance on Marik's part.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8415512/

The story about the JICM paper is equally ridiculous. The data on deaths was accurate when submitted, but the HOSPITAL asked the JCIM to make the paper recalculate the mortality in one section of the paper, after it had already been published, using long term follow-up data, which raised the mortality from 0 to 10%. Utterly absurd and unheard of for something like this to happen. The JICM refused to accept the author's data correction, and instead yanked the entire paper.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1458892074510651405.html
 
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welshdean said:
Nor the exponentially higher deaths caused by your and your cohort's lies.

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How 'proud' does that make you feel Bubba?
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And there's the physical harm to our little ones:

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2022...&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=daily-nwletter

Pertinent quotes:

"Hospitalizations reached a pandemic high of 914 children per day this month, up dramatically from the previous peak of 342 in September 2021."

and

"The first week of January 2022 saw Texas Children's Hospital in Houston report 12 babies in intensive care with COVID-19."

Yep, Bubba's shirt buttons must be popping like corn.
 
Bubba said:
Thats nice. Thanks.

VAERS reporting is voluntary.

How many non-fatal adverse events were not reported ?

How many were killed by the injections, which were not reported ?
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But reporting deaths is compulsory. All deaths are reported whether from a vaccine adverse event or from flu or from heart attacks. The cause of death is also reported. So the number of deaths from vaccine adverse reaction is known. Personally I have seen lots of people die from covid-19 (nearly all unvaccinated), but none from vaccines.
 
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