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heydarian saeed said:
Hello. thanks for your kindness. I did more research. And I went to more scientific ways to find the supernatural. And then I came to the conclusion that the supernatural is not within our comprehension. And let's take time on this. On the other hand, I saw in the Qur'an that it speaks only of the material world. And it has nothing to do with supernatural. It even defines God in the material world. It does not dream and fantasize. He says in this world if you can find God. Of course, God is not visible and can not be found! But signs of the Creator are everywhere. This is enough for man, who is of matter and energy. There is no further expectation. Everyone should look for the unknown as much as they understand. no more. Some people unfortunately write stories to understand unknown issues. This is not a good approach.
So I put the supernatural aside. I have no prejudice to accept unrealistic issues. Free Free I think. And my best choice, which I am proud of, is "science". I accept my religion with knowledge. "science" proves God to me. Unfortunately, our religious teachings are flawed. And the preachers of religion must try to solve these shortcomings with science. But they work little.
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As Pixel already pointed out to you on this page, your God IS a supernatural belief.

And you also just said "science proves God to me", but I have pointed out to you at least 20 times now, and at vast length, that your claim is the opposite of the actual truth - science most definitely does NOT prove God ...

... on the total contrary, every science paper ever published (in core science that's perhaps over a million papers since 1800), shows overwhelming and undeniable natural formation for everything in the the entire universe with NO EVIDENCE of any God ever being found anywhere at all ... the science is all rejecting the idea of any God ...

... However, the evidence which does exist about "God", and which is absolutely massive, is that over the last 5000 years at least, people & societies all over the Earth have creeted untrue stories and superstitions to claim belief in invisible super-human Gods ... that is extremely common, and there is mountains of evidence for that! ... but that is only human man-made mythology of fantastic creatures inc. fantastic superpowerful mythical gods of all sorts.
 
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Heydarian, stop ignoring me.

I've even changed my avatar! No more gun. Although I suspect you would be even less impressed with the meaning of the new one. :D
 
Hello to all dear friends. Let's review a previous post to clear our minds.
"Single" came from nothing, says science. We also accept the principle of this matter. But "nothing" is a material definition and it is not correct to translate it into nothingness. Because there is no material definition in Planck. So we can not get a material definition from the word "none". On the other hand, "single" does not have the ability to create itself.
Because it cannot be proven scientifically. And it is logically and philosophically rejected. If anyone can prove that the single can scientifically or philosophically create itself, submit their content. We are happy to see, read and check. But .... God has claimed in the Qur'an and the holy books that he did this. To examine this issue, it cannot be right to attribute God to the universe.
Because he himself becomes like his single and we said it has not been scientifically proven. And philosophy says it's impossible. On the other hand, the discussion of the Qur'an presents its contents only on material concepts. And it has nothing to do with The supernatural. Therefore, we must seek God in the existence of matter and ourselves. And do not separate from the material world.
Where was God before the invention of matter? And what was he doing? It has nothing to do with us. It is not our job to examine incomprehensible issues in science for the material world. Because it is not in the material world. And the Qur'an has never dealt with it. We have made a place for God ourselves! And we have created this subjects for philosophical discussions for years. And this is a big mistake.
There is a gap between this Qur'anic argument and the reality of the material world. We agree. So let me give the scientific explanation I need to resolve this dispute. I must first say that only quantum science can answer this riddle.
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Gibberish. Again.

Answer questions Heydarian, stop pontificating on things you clearly don't understand.
 
... Photon evolution is inextricably linked to quantum science. The universe began with the invention of nothing from quantum science. Light waves with different wavelengths emit photons. We can only see visible light waves. The emission of photons is done in the form of particle or quant quant and in other words closed packet and wave. In fact, quantum science is the evolution of photons in meta-matter.
Our world is made up of matter and energy. Matter is the same as hadrons that manifest themselves in protons and neutrons, and various forces are involved in their survival. The nuclear force is the weak bosons that connect the quarks, and the strong nuclear force forms the nucleus of the atom, the protons and neutrons. The third main force that regulates the stability of the material world is the electromagnetic force.
Every movement in the world creates magnetic waves. Electrons produce energy by changing their state, which is propagated in the form of photons. Impulses and spins cause the elementary particles along with the photons to cause electromagnetism, and the photons perform a guiding function over matter, which the Qur'an calls command, saying, "Be aware that creation is in the possession of God." "
In the material world, God uses material tools to manage it. What tool can link it to the Creator alongside the guiding material? "Photons" in the form of quantum over matter are instruments of divine rule over the material world. Recently, important discoveries have been made in this field. Which has drawn the view of scientists to one of our super-material powers. Quantum waves have been discovered around humans and above their genomes.
Which communicates genetic changes to genome molecules in billions of cells in the body in an instant. The quantum world is an unknown world. Whose discovered angles have attracted physicists. Photons play a role in the structure of matter and the command of matter. elementary particles are trapped in the heart of matter along with quarks. And can not be active as a stable and active particle in all forms of matter.
So the only elementary particles that make up quantum mechanics are photons. And possibly neutrinos. This mysterious particle is also present everywhere. And it goes everywhere without disturbing and obstacles. And he has not yet turned his face to science. And is unknown. It also has a role to play here.
Thus the single is created from pure light, which is pure energy. So far, science has proven it. And accepts. God says, "Pure energy and pure light are from me." The Qur'an fills the gap with God's claim based on quantum science. Of course, we are waiting for science to say something else on this subject.
And through the advancement of science to introduce the source of pure light - pure energy and singular something else. I personally stick to my beliefs and believe that God is the creator of the single and pure light. But I am waiting for a new article in this regard to be presented to human beings. But no one has made such a claim yet. Even modern science. Some say science will prove it. And it will fill the gap.
(Also, how inanimate matter came to life, which has not yet been scientifically proven. And is a great mystery in the process of abiogenesis.) So they deny God because of their quick judgment. I recommend just wait. They deny God because of their haste. Of course, this approach is completely illogical. The Qur'an has given a beautiful answer to this question. Surah Al-Anbiya(21) verse 37 Meaning: "The nature of man was created to be hasty. I will show you verses soon. So do not hurry."
I said this following previous articles in this regard to enlighten the public mind. Personally, I have no claims. I am just a researcher of scientific materials in the Quran. I say free, free and without any prejudice. And I hear all the criticism. And I accept some.
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MarkCorrigan said:
Heydarian, stop ignoring me.

I've even changed my avatar! No more gun. Although I suspect you would be even less impressed with the meaning of the new one. :D
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Hi dear friend. You did a great job of putting the gun down. The best weapon is to think correctly and speak correctly. I'm at your service. Ask your question.
 
Cosmic Yak said:
Perhaps you missed the posts in which heydarian admitted he had not done any experiments, and doesn't even have a lab to do them in.
There's a difference between changing your mind and getting caught lying.
heydarian falls into the latter category.
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Hello. Thank you for your judgment of me. Of course you are wrong. Maybe your logic is different from mine. I think this is our difference. What logical approach do you call? Is not the scientific approach logical and correct?
 
heydarian saeed said:
Hi dear friend. You did a great job of putting the gun down. The best weapon is to think correctly and speak correctly. I'm at your service. Ask your question.
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I have. Repeatedly. It's on the previous page. Stop pretending you've not seen it.

Incidentally do you know what my new Avatar is?
 
MarkCorrigan said:
I have. Repeatedly. It's on the previous page. Stop pretending you've not seen it.

Incidentally do you know what my new Avatar is?
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Please ask again. I'm sorry I did not see your question. I'm optimistic about your new avatar. I Think: a beautiful red star. Maybe the star of David is the prophet. Which I like very much. Maybe it's a kind of cold and sharp weapon and a winner. In any case, my friendship is always open to everyone. Be sure.
 
IanS said:
As Pixel already pointed out to you on this page, your God IS a supernatural belief.

And you also just said "science proves God to me", but I have pointed out to you at least 20 times now, and at vast length, that your claim is the opposite of the actual truth - science most definitely does NOT prove God ...

... on the total contrary, every science paper ever published (in core science that's perhaps over a million papers since 1800), shows overwhelming and undeniable natural formation for everything in the the entire universe with NO EVIDENCE of any God ever being found anywhere at all ... the science is all rejecting the idea of any God ...

... However, the evidence which does exist about "God", and which is absolutely massive, is that over the last 5000 years at least, people & societies all over the Earth have creeted untrue stories and superstitions to claim belief in invisible super-human Gods ... that is extremely common, and there is mountains of evidence for that! ... but that is only human man-made mythology of fantastic creatures inc. fantastic superpowerful mythical gods of all sorts.
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Hello dear master. Science is always based on cause and effect and finding this relationship. Basically, every science is based on this. Human science is limited. On the other hand, the universe is infinitely vast. Many topics are unknown. And no answer has been given so far. Among these two questions that I have asked you in several messages. I have no claim. And I'm waiting for science to answer these two questions. God has claimed in the Qur'an and other holy books that: The answer to these two questions is God. I give you the right that many people have been superstitious and storytelling about finding the truth.
 
heydarian saeed said:
Hello. Thank you for your judgment of me. Of course you are wrong. Maybe your logic is different from mine. I think this is our difference. What logical approach do you call? Is not the scientific approach logical and correct?
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Either
1: You actually did an experiment in a lab which proved the existence of the supernatural, as you claimed in your first post,
Or,
2: You did not do this experiment, as you said in your later posts.

Which one is true?
 
heydarian saeed said:
Hello dear master. Science is always based on cause and effect and finding this relationship. Basically, every science is based on this. Human science is limited. On the other hand, the universe is infinitely vast. Many topics are unknown. And no answer has been given so far. Among these two questions that I have asked you in several messages. I have no claim. And I'm waiting for science to answer these two questions. God has claimed in the Qur'an and other holy books that: The answer to these two questions is God. I give you the right that many people have been superstitious and storytelling about finding the truth.
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You just claimed that science has proved God for you. But I just explained why that is not true - science has discovered and explained literally billions of things, and most of those things have required absolute mountains of real unarguable evidence ... but in all of that vast amount of science, not even the most tiny microscopic spec of any evidence has ever been found for any God.

As for your claim that "science is limited" - what is the limit of science? what are you claiming to be beyond all possible human scientific study?

And as for your opposing claim to say "the universe is infinitely vast" - how do you know the universe is "infinite"? How did you prove that?
 
Cosmic Yak said:
Either
1: You actually did an experiment in a lab which proved the existence of the supernatural, as you claimed in your first post,
Or,
2: You did not do this experiment, as you said in your later posts.

Which one is true?
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Hello. I did not do any experiments to prove the supernatural. And after finishing the article Proof of the Supernatural, I rejected the Proof of the Supernatural altogether because of my further studies. Because first, it is not provable. And secondly, this is not the case in the realm of the material world. And we should not deal with that. We just have to see the material world. And everything that exists in this world is material. And we just have to move forward with science. Of course, science has not yet been able to answer many questions. And is unknown. we should wait. Do not rush.
 
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