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Cont: Cancel culture IRL Part 2

Cain said:
It seems very on brand for a health care organization to dissolve their partnership with someone who takes homeopathic treatments and listens to the advice of Dr. Joe Rogan.
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Well that’s not fair either. We can’t let this cancel culture environment interfere with an athlete’s right to seek the medical advice of his personal comedian. And really, who is the international medical community to say a vaccine is any more or less effective than smearing horse deworming cream on your balls? That vaccine might make you sterile, I think a mime may have told him that I’d have to get back to you. But he got that from somewhere credible. And even if not, everyone has a right to spread as much misinformation as they want without suffering any repercussions at all, especially on the internet or even worse, from a journalist

Anyway, anyone passing any judgement, saying anything negative, not buying his jersey, or supporting his upcoming comedy tours with Dave Chapelle and Tim Pool featuring Alex Jones is in the wrong. Textbook cancellation. It’s not for us to decide our opinions on other people’s public actions or ideas, leave that to your betters. This is just the woke mob going insane.
 
https://www.wbay.com/2021/11/09/aaron-rodgers-i-misled-some-people-about-my-status/

Well, despite his assurances that he would not acquiesce to the woke mob in this cancel culture war, it was indeed the final nail in his cancel culture coffin. Rodgers doesn't apologize but acknowledges people may have felt misled by his comments, in which case if someone did feel misled he's takes full responsibility for the comments he made. No doubt, taking responsibility for these comments to the woke mob is going to entail something horrifying as they have done with many celebrities in the past.

Even worse, the NFL fined him $15K for his repeated COVID violations. For a man that makes a mere $146K a minute per game, this is a sum sure to cause him an even greater distress than having to acknowledge that some people may have felt misled by him.

I really don't know how anyone can hope to enjoy any kind of freedoms in an environment this dangerous and unforgiving.
 
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angrysoba said:
I've heard the University of Austin is hiring. Her views will clash with those of Bari Weiss, but that's what a free-thinking university is all about, right? The plurality of views, the jousting of opinions. Nothing is Verboten!
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You know, this is one of those situations that frustrates me. People should be able to have views opposed to the actions of the COUNTRY of ISRAEL without being labeled as "anti-semites". It's as dumb as insisting that anyone opposed to the policies of Afghanistan is "anti-muslim".
 
Emily's Cat said:
You know, this is one of those situations that frustrates me. People should be able to have views opposed to the actions of the COUNTRY of ISRAEL without being labeled as "anti-semites". It's as dumb as insisting that anyone opposed to the policies of Afghanistan is "anti-muslim".
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To be fair, are the policies they oppose there ones based on Islamic religious doctrine? Everyone should be able to state they hate any tenants of any religion they find problematic. The anti-sematic smear that comes up all too often when any disagreement with Israel policy is way too commonplace for sure though. We should all probably be more aware of the lax justification needed to throw around labels like these. I get annoyed to have to investigate if any label thrown on people is accurate, and yet that is probably the bare minimum we all should have been doing the whole time.
 
rdwight said:
To be fair, are the policies they oppose there ones based on Islamic religious doctrine? Everyone should be able to state they hate any tenants of any religion they find problematic. The anti-sematic smear that comes up all too often when any disagreement with Israel policy is way too commonplace for sure though. We should all probably be more aware of the lax justification needed to throw around labels like these. I get annoyed to have to investigate if any label thrown on people is accurate, and yet that is probably the bare minimum we all should have been doing the whole time.
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Agreed.

Also... tenets, not tenants. :o
 
Not wanting to be outdone by the US and the UK, Canada steps up to the plate and cancels
a book club meeting for low income teenage girls because the featured Nobel Prize winning author who wrote a book about being kidnapped, raped and tortured by ISIS because it might foster Islamophobia.

The superintendent, Helen Fisher, also told her that students would not participate in a book-club event scheduled for February with Nadia Murad, a Nobel Prize-winner and activist, Ms. Lee said. She said she was told Ms. Murad’s book, The Last Girl: My Story of Captivity, and My Fight Against the Islamic State, would foster Islamophobia.

After that conversation, Ms. Lee said she sent an e-mail to Ms. Fisher with information about Islamic State from the BBC and CNN.

“This is what Islamic State means,” Ms. Lee wrote to the superintendent. “It is a terrorist organization. It has nothing to do with ordinary Muslims. The TDSB should be aware of the difference.”
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Source
 
Stout said:
Not wanting to be outdone by the US and the UK, Canada steps up to the plate and cancels a book club meeting for low income teenage girls because the featured Nobel Prize winning author who wrote a book about being kidnapped, raped and tortured by ISIS because it might foster Islamophobia.
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In the U.S. that book club meeting would be protested/canceled just for normalizing the non-radical version of Islam.
 
Much of the discussion about Chappelle's latest special focuses on his friend's suicide. I think more reviewers should have included spoiler tags. Anyway, Twitter recommended this substack to me, and the author says, contrary to Chappelle's telling, there's no evidence that blowback from defending Chappelle contributed to her suicide.



https://michaelhobbes.substack.com/...&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&utm_source=
 
Interesting article in the Washington Post, the researcher is a 'Person of Gender' and were looking into people sexually attracted to minors, apparently this is due to their use of the term 'minor-attracted persons' rather than paedophiles...


Old Dominion University has put a professor on leave amid controversy over their research into adults who are sexually attracted to minors, saying it had put campus safety at risk.




The public university was facing a firestorm over Professor Allyn Walker’s use of the term “minor-attracted people” and whether that language and approach destigmatizes sex offenders. Students protested on the Norfolk campus Tuesday, outrage spread on social media and an online petition to remove Walker had garnered thousands of signatures within days.





On Tuesday night, university officials announced that Walker had been placed on administrative leave. Reactions to Walker’s book and academic research “have led to concerns for their safety and that of campus,” have disrupted campus and are interfering with teaching and learning, officials wrote in a statement online.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2021/11/17/old-dominion-professor-allyn-walker/
 
An article mainly of the cancelling of stage and TV shows in Australia and the devastating effect it has had on those cancelled.


https://www.theage.com.au/national/...gie-winner-hugh-sheridan-20211027-p593ls.html


The first part is about a bi actor.

Hugh Sheridan was confirmed in the lead role for the musical, Hedwig and the Angry Inch, scheduled for the 2021 Sydney Festival.
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Hedwig is born Hansel, a boy from communist East Germany who falls in love with an American soldier and has a sex-change operation so they can marry and flee to the US. But the surgery is botched and later the soldier leaves, pitching Hedwig into a life of sorrow, crazy bravery, fabulous wigs and rock ‘n’ roll.
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One day in November, just weeks into rehearsals for Hedwig, Sheridan opened his Instagram account to read some “horrific messages”. Four trans advocates had organised an open letter demanding he be dropped from the role. The letter, signed by more than 1700 people, said only a trans actor could play the role.
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The letter prompted the American creators of Hedwig, John Cameron Mitchell and Stephen Trask, to issue a statement saying they did not believe that Hedwig was trans, and that anyone could play the role. But the Australian producers, Showtune Productions, cancelled the show. “We wish to assure the Trans and LGBTQIA+ community that the issues raised are respected and taken very seriously,” said Showtune in a statement.
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Disgusting.

There are other stories about the gay nightclub which commemorated the death of four cops, one of whom was gay and frequented the club.

Dozens of posts by LGBTQI+ activists targeted the nightclub on Facebook: its act was “abhorrent” and “vomit”, they said. “Why not stand in the fight to stop black deaths in custody instead of supporting oppressors? The queer community will never stand with cops.” And: “White gay men proving, yet again, that they will always be white men before they are anything else.”
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Okay, the club was not cancelled but the intent was there.

What has happened to the old Australian tradition of giving people a “fair go” to live their lives and express opinions?
 
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Graham2001 said:
Interesting article in the Washington Post, the researcher is a 'Person of Gender' and were looking into people sexually attracted to minors, apparently this is due to their use of the term 'minor-attracted persons' rather than paedophiles...






https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2021/11/17/old-dominion-professor-allyn-walker/
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Wow there is all kinds of room in that to be reasonable, I know anyone attracted to someone under the age of 18 should be locked up for all eternity regardless of if they act on that attraction or not.

For example were the people being studdied sex offenders or people who have an unwanted attraction to minors? And of course being a place were definitions matter was it limited to pedophiles or were those attracted to people going through puberty included as well.

Kind of like how in lots of studies it has changed from calling people gay men, to men who have sex with men. It gets rid of the identity and focuses on the behavior.
 
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Wow there is all kinds of room in that to be reasonable, I know anyone attracted to someone under the age of 18 should be locked up for all eternity regardless of if they act on that attraction or not.

For example were the people being studdied sex offenders or people who have an unwanted attraction to minors? And of course being a place were definitions matter was it limited to pedophiles or were those attracted to people going through puberty included as well.

Kind of like how in lots of studies it has changed from calling people gay men, to men who have sex with men. It gets rid of the identity and focuses on the behavior.
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It's also about accuracy. They were not seeking to study only pedophiles, so that's not the right term to use even in the more common (and I'd say at this point overly expansive to the point of causing actual harm to the cause people expanded it to support) definition. This is like the people complaining about 'people who menstruate' when that was the best phrase for the exact thing they were talking about.

Besides all that, a large number of people who sexually assault minors are not attracted to minors in the same way that a large number of people who are attracted to minors don't assault them. I mean, damn, wait till they hear about 'gay for pay'.
 
Dave Chappelle has reached the "publicly arguing with high schoolers" stage of being an old, out of touch weirdo

Andrew added that at the end of the evening, Chappelle proceeded to tell the students: "I am better at what I do than all of you in this room combined."

He added: "It was just a grotesque display of ego and narcissism."

Andrew later said that throughout the event, Chappelle — who appeared onstage with film cameras for a documentary — was reluctant to engage with the concerns of the students but continually told the audience that they "can't silence" him.

"He kept on saying, 'You can't silence me. How dare you try to silence me.' Not one person in that room was trying to silence him at all," Andrew said.
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https://www.insider.com/dave-chappelle-student-reveals-details-surprise-high-school-interview-2021-11
 
you know, if it wasn't for people like Dave Chapelle who have the courage to stand there and force a bunch transgendered teens to listen to him berate them about how much better he is than they are, who knows where we would be as a society
 
What I constantly keep wondering to myself is how much of this whole "cancel culture" freakout is just the side effects of the people panicking as they age and increasingly find themselves being "uncool" in the eyes of some younger generations. Comedians who spent their younger years being edgy and in touch with the cultural moment often seem to react pretty negatively as life moves on. The "hip comedian" to "old man yelling at cloud" pipeline never fails to deliver.

The fact that a huge age cohort, the baby boomers, is currently entering their elderly years and see their cultural dominance waning is probably at the root of a lot of this.

There's really no reason why people must age this gracelessly, and obviously the most deranged voices are the loudest.
 
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