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Discussion: Transwomen are not women (Part 7)

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Beelzebuddy said:
Because if there's anyone I trust to fairly and accurately portray the aims of the gay agenda, it's right wing blog posts.
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I didn't check the entire article, but I checked a few links, it they seem to be properly referenced, either to MSM sources or original sources.

The comments at Quillette tend to be far more right-wing than the posts themselves. I've read many posts that are excellent, especially from a classic liberal perspective.
 
Beelzebuddy said:
Because if there's anyone I trust to fairly and accurately portray the aims of the gay agenda, it's right wing blog posts.
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I'm pretty sure the author, Maxwell Meyer, isn't really "right wing". He's certainly not a radical leftists, but judging from some of his other work (for example, this piece), he looks like he leans more left than right.

But regardless, this is just an ad hominem. Either you have some criticism of the actual article, or you don't. And if you don't, then your criticism of the author (and really, you didn't even manage to do that much) doesn't matter.
 
Paul2 said:
I didn't check the entire article, but I checked a few links, it they seem to be properly referenced, either to MSM sources or original sources.

The comments at Quillette tend to be far more right-wing than the posts themselves. I've read many posts that are excellent, especially from a classic liberal perspective.
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Quillette publishes heterodox ideas from varied political perspectives, including some on highly controversial topics. This of course is ideologically impure, and forever taints anyone who publishes in it through moral contamination, like wearing the sweater of a serial killer.
 
Elaedith said:
Quillette publishes heterodox ideas from varied political perspectives, including some on highly controversial topics. This of course is ideologically impure, and forever taints anyone who publishes in it through moral contamination, like wearing the sweater of a serial killer.
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Quillette values heterodoxy more than rigorous thought, which is why they regularly embarrass themselves by publishing pseudoscience and reactionary nonsense.
 
SuburbanTurkey said:
Quillette values heterodoxy more than rigorous thought, which is why they regularly embarrass themselves by publishing pseudoscience and reactionary nonsense.
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And still, none of this touches on the merits, accuracy, or validity of the actual article under consideration.
 
Ziggurat said:
And still, none of this touches on the merits, accuracy, or validity of the actual article under consideration.
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What's to discuss, it's a speculative opinion piece about the future of a political movement/organization. Not exactly hard science here.
 
SuburbanTurkey said:
What's to discuss, it's a speculative opinion piece about the future of a political movement/organization. Not exactly hard science here.
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Where are you getting large sections or summary conclusions about the future in that article (aside from the title, in which its reference to the future doesn't really reflect the content of the article, and which title might well not be written by the author, as sometimes happens)?

The piece is not so much about the future but more about the present. In fact, by word count, the piece is more about the past, although the past is discussed to inform what it says about the present.
 
d4m10n said:
I suppose it's of interest whether Pride groups imploding is part of a trend or just a handful of one-offs.
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"Every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business, and eventually degenerates into a racket." (Hoffer)
 
LGB Alliance said:
We’re happy to confirm @MrAndyNgo
wrote to ask for a press pass. Andy was given one. We would hardly do otherwise since we believe in a free press. Whatever his other work in the past, Andy’s work for @nypost
on the WiSpa scandal was extraordinary and important.
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https://twitter.com/ALLIANCELGB/with_replies

"Whatever his other work in the past" is doing a lot of heavy lifting here. Ngo is a notorious fascist propagandist who's job is little more than to mark targets for storms of online reactionaries to relentlessly harass.

TERFs and fash working hand in hand, what a shock :rolleyes:
 
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The phrase "notorious fascist propagandist" is doing a lot of the heavy lifting here.

What exactly did Ngo get wrong in the Wi Spa reporting?
 
d4m10n said:
The phrase "notorious fascist propagandist" is doing a lot of the heavy lifting here.

What exactly did Ngo get wrong in the Wi Spa reporting?
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I was more referencing some of his earlier work, such as when he was embedded with a fascist gang and failed to report on their premeditated assault, instead reporting the later violent clash as spontaneous. He's also been known to selectively edit footage, trimming out clarifying context in order to advance certain narratives. It's not journalism, it's propaganda.

But now video has surfaced of Ngo smiling and laughing with members of the far-right group Patriot Prayer shortly before they allegedly orchestrated an attack on a group of antifascists at a leftist bar in a separate incident in May. A female bar patron was knocked unconscious and said she suffered a fractured vertebrae.

In his coverage, Ngo framed the incident as an “antifa brawl” and did not mention that he was with members of Patriot Prayer as they donned body armor, helmets, and weapons before launching their alleged attack.
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https://www.vice.com/en/article/d3apyv/super-awkward-for-right-wing-blogger-andy-ngo-to-make-a-cameo-in-video-of-plot-against-antifa

He was such an embarrassment that even Quillete had to cut him loose, though they still maintain his firing was unrelated to him being exposed as a hack.
 
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Ziggurat said:
In other words, you don't know of anything Ngo got wrong about Wi Spa. You really could have ended the post here, everything else was off topic.
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It's interesting that TERFS are so comfortable associating with someone like Ngo. I mean, doesn't really change my view of them much since it's been obvious that TERFs and fash get along quite well, but I would think that supposedly liberal anti-trans people in these groups wouldn't be comfortable with such an explicit alliance.
 
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