I think faith is more than just sticking a flag in the ground and declaring I believe this. But I agree it does mean believing even if contradicted by the preponderance of the evidence.
Are white people better than black people? Of course not. But one could believe that on "faith".
I am not sure how to describe it to you. I think faith is believing with the heart, rather than the head.
My heart pumps blood. Dunno what the hell yours does.
I don't "peddle" religion. I don't think religion is something to be peddled like salesperson would peddle whatever he/she is selling. Yes, it can and has been used as a reason to believe is something that is not provable and that can be shown to be false. Of just because something is unprovable and unfalsifiable, not does not automatically make that something, untrue.
So you are peddling religion.
I suppose one could use faith to justify believing in something false. It could also be used to justify believing is something that is true even when the preponderance of the evidence says otherwise. Sometimes the preponderance of the evidence can add up to the wrong conclusion.
And there we have it. Faith can justify true things AND false things. Warbler knows this. Warbler does not care anyway.
but I was not using the line to justify believing in Santa.
Well why not. Santa, god, Zeus, Odin, what's the difference?
Yes, much of what the the Baptist Churches teach are too extreme for me, especially the ones that believe in Kink James Onlyism(that only the King James Version of the Bible is the true word of God)
Kink James version. Too funny.
I am more a New Testament guy myself. But think there is more true things in the OT than you do. It mentions countries/leaders/events that historians agree are true
Really? So the spiderman novels and comics mention new york, therefore Spiderman must be real. Harry Potter mentions London, therefore Harry Potter must be real. It's absurd.
Can you prove that there is no God, that God did not create the universe.
Why?
I agree if you look at it from a purely logical and scientific perspective, one would not conclude that God existed, not that God created the universe. But If I can not prove that there is no God, that God did not create the universe, then there is that possibility that it is true and that is were faith can come it. I agree it is neither logical or scientific, but there it is.
You agree it is absurd? OK then.
What about the ten commandments? surely rules like:
Thou shalt not kill.
Thou shalt not commit adultery.
Thou shalt not steal.
Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
You mean the 613 commandments? Thou shalt not eat shellfish?
There more than just true locations mentioned in the OT, it also mentions historic leaders and nations and events that occurred. I can certainly understand how one might see Noah and the Ark and Jonah and the Whale as absurd. They may well not be literally true.
And now you are diluting christianity.
does the archeological evidence prove there was no Moses and no parting of the Red Sea?
Yup.
And sometimes stories passed down around around campfires can be true, or exaggerated with some truth in them however small, and sometimes they can be wrong. But, if you talking about events that occurred before a people could write things down, stores passed from one person telling another is the best you have.
The telephone game.
You have the right to base your believes on what you choose to. I choose to base some of my beliefs on my faith.
Sure. But is it justified? You are unable to justify your own beliefs.
Yes, it might well be difficult to base a claim that abortion is sin or murder on the bible. I try not to do that.
It's endorsed in the bible. So is human sacrifice. So much for that.
