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The Sinking of MS Estonia: Case Re-opened Part II

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It reads like the movie pitch of someone who got all their knowledge of spycraft from the really silly Roger Moore era James ond films.
 
Mojo said:
I’m more interested in the new idea that the Russian government sank the Estonia in order to send the Russian government a message. Had they run out of memo pads? And why would the Swedish government have wanted to hush it up?
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This is what sheeple like you will never understand. It's wheels within wheels! It's Big Government keeping the little people in the dark. You believe the Estonia sank due to the stress/fatigue failure of the bow visor.... because that's what they want you to believe! And you've just sat there and gratefully opened your mouths for them to spoon-feed you their lies.


Also, my sources are now telling me of their discovery that a pivotal figure behind the real reason for the Estonia sinking is a shadowy businessman named Karl Stromberg. By 1994, he already had a track record of at least 17 years for engineering "accidents" to large ships apparently. The word among the illuminati is that when it comes to this sort of maritime subterfuge, nobody does it better than Stromberg.
 
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LondonJohn said:
Well yes, a shape charge can make a straight-line cut through steel...

...but there will be a significant visual - and microscopically metallurgical - difference between the separation edges of steel that's been cut with a shape charge, and the separation edges of steel that's undergone a stress fracture.
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Yup.
 
LondonJohn said:
Well yes, a shape charge can make a straight-line cut through steel...

...but there will be a significant visual - and microscopically metallurgical - difference between the separation edges of steel that's been cut with a shape charge, and the separation edges of steel that's undergone a stress fracture.
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And there would certainly be residual copper on the face of the cut and on adjacent surfaces readily detectable by microanalysis.
 
ferd burfle said:
And there would certainly be residual copper on the face of the cut and on adjacent surfaces readily detectable by microanalysis.
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Unless it was just great big lumps of Semtex or C4. But then there would have been more than a bit of banging sound.
 
These mentions of Semtex make me wonder if the 'RA weren't involved as well. And as they were apparently supplied by Libya, that puts Gaddafi's fingerprints all over it.

My god.

I've stumbled across the link between the Estonia and Lockerbie.

This is HUGE.
 
MarkCorrigan said:
It reads like the movie pitch of someone who got all their knowledge of spycraft from the really silly Roger Moore era James ond films.
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There's a sort of old-school screwball screenplay just waiting to be written, where each country and each spy agency thinks a different ally or foe sank the ship, each by a different method and for a different reason, and they all set about frantically trying to cover up for their pals or pin the blame on their enemy.

Probably needs Sid Caesar, Terry-Thomas, Gert Fröbe, Joyce Grenfell etc to make it work but I think Carry On Out of Your Depth has promise.
 
Jack by the hedge said:
There's a sort of old-school screwball screenplay just waiting to be written, where each country and each spy agency thinks a different ally or foe sank the ship, each by a different method and for a different reason, and they all set about frantically trying to cover up for their pals or pin the blame on their enemy.

Probably needs Sid Caesar, Terry-Thomas, Gert Fröbe, Joyce Grenfell etc to make it work but I think Carry On Out of Your Depth has promise.
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That is a terrific idea. My only suggestion would be that it's played as a very dark comedy in the style of Burn After Reading, where all kinds of stuff are happening and none of the characters have any idea what's going on. Especially not the CIA.
 
malbui said:
That is a terrific idea. My only suggestion would be that it's played as a very dark comedy in the style of Burn After Reading, where all kinds of stuff are happening and none of the characters have any idea what's going on. Especially not the CIA.
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Frances McDormand starring as our intrepid Vixen.
 
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