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Free Britney!

EXPLOITATIVE

Correction: I misspelled exploitative, in post #512. I incorrectly spelled it as exploitive; the correct spelling is exploitative.

Ah. I thought "hey, did I misspell that word in English all along?" Nope, I was ok!


Yes, you're ok! I misspelled "exploitative."

Conservatorship/guardianship/power of attorney can be...complicated. There are people, laws, departments/agencies, government, and courts involved, and there's a lot broken.

Partial list of reference words or phrases in this thread to try to explain how and why people do wicked things:

  • affinity crimes
  • deceit
  • entitlement
  • exploitation, exploitativeness
  • greed
  • incentivize
  • interpersonally exploitative
  • manipulative, manipulativeness
  • narcissism, narcissist, narcissistic personality disorder
  • narcissistic exploitativeness
  • Narcissistic Personality Inventory (NPI)
  • reciprocity (in social psychology): positive- and negative reciprocity
  • social networking
  • sociopathy
  • The Dark Triad – Machiavellianism, narcissism, and psychopathy ("dark" because of their malevolent qualities)
  • the norm of reciprocity
Belz, if you–anyone–would like to add to the above list, please do so. I don't know everything, but I'll do my best to explain my understanding of the horrors of abusive conservatorships/guardianships/power of attorney.
 
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Not to digress too far, but here's an example of how the mental health establishment doesn't like to admit its mistakes.
A homeless man wrongly arrested for a crime committed by someone else and locked up in a mental health hospital for nearly three years was quietly released, recent court documents in Hawaii show.

In a court petition filed on Monday night, the Hawaii Innocence Project asked a judge to rescind Joshua Spriestersbach’s arrest and correct his records. The court filings detail Spriestersbach’s plight, which started when he fell asleep on a sidewalk while waiting for food outside a Honolulu shelter in 2017.
https://news.yahoo.com/man-arrested-mistaken-identity-case-144636493.html

Once they decided he was crazy, there was nothing he could do prove he wasn't, even though it would have been simple to just run his fingerprints. I imagine that part of the resistance to ending Britney's conservatorship is the likelihood that the people who imposed it, extended it and benefited from it will be held legally accountable.
 
An attorney for Britney Spears filed an application Thursday, 5 August 2021, to ask the court to immediately remove James P. Spears as conservator, noting that an investigation may be required into his financial dealings while in control of her estate. [1]

I get the sense this application is to see where Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Brenda J. Penny stands; rule immediately–OR–not. Do what's best for Britney by removing her dad immediately, or, perpetuate the broken court and conservatorship business and drag out the process by not acting in Britney's best interest?

Judge Brenda Penny denied Britney's earlier bid to remove her dad as conservator (in June 2021).

CNN summarized the importance to Britney:
"Every day that passes is another day of avoidable harm and prejudice to Ms. Spears and the Estate," the petition states. "Ms. Spears's emotional health and well-being must be, and are, the paramount concern. Further, all interested parties forcefully agree that Mr. Spears's continued presence as Conservator of the Estate is contrary to Ms. Spears's best interests, health, and well-being, and that his prompt removal -- or, at the very least, his immediate suspension -- is 'critical' at this juncture." [2]​

Move up the date of the September 29th, Petition/Accounting/Authority/Appointment Hearing.

The ex parte application is for an:
"Order Advancing the September 29 Hearing Date on Conservatee's Petition to Remove James Spears as Conservator of the Estate and Petition to Appoint Jason Rubin as Conservator of the Estate. In the alternative, Conservatee moves for the immediate suspension of James P. Spears as Conservator and the appointment of Jason Rubin as Temporary Conservator pending the hearing presently set for September 29, 2021."​

In the GOOD CAUSE EXISTS FOR THE GRANTING OF THIS APPLICATION, states:
"Among other things, Ms. Spears described the trauma and abuse she endured under the control of her father and those beholden to him–several of whom are being enriched from monies earned by Ms. Spears, without her actual consent."​

Also in the good cause states that, "
The Petition contains overwhelming evidence warranting Mr. Spears's prompt removal under Section 2650(j)'s "best interests" test, including Ms. Spears's own compelling June 23 and July 14 testimony."​

Copies of the court documents filed, Thursday, 05 Aug 2021, can be found on the Twitter page, @BritneyLawArmy, for Britney Law Army. [3]

To look up case information for Britney Spears' conservatorship on The Superior Court of California, County of Los Angeles website, go to http://www.lacourt.org/website/FindaCase.aspx and enter case number: BP108870

I found that source in the timeline in its entirety with sources on the freebritney.army website run by Leanne Simmons. [4]

Sources

[1] Doha Madani and Diana Dasrath. (05 Aug 2021). Britney Spears attorney wants father off conservatorship immediately, claims finances misused. NBC News. https[colon]//www[dot]nbcnews.com/pop-culture/pop-culture-news/britney-spears-attorney-wants-father-conservatorship-immediately-claims-finances-misused-n1276100

[2] Melas, Chloe. (05 Aug 2021). Attorney for Britney Spears requests earlier court date to remove her father as co-conservator. CNN. https[colon]//www[dot]cnn.com/2021/08/05/entertainment/britney-spears-ex-parte-father-co-conservator-battle/index.html

[3] @BritneyLawArmy. (05 Aug 2021). NEW In a pleading filed today Matthew Rosengart has requested the Court to move up the hearing on the removal [Tweet] Twitter, twitter.com/BritneyLawArmy/status/1423330117284208646/photo/1

Note: Mathew Rosengart's first name is misspelled as "Matthew" on the Twitter page. His first name should be spelled with one "T" as, Mathew Rosengart.

[4] Simmons, Leanne. The Controversial Conservatorship of Britney Jean Spears. On the freebritney.army (homepage for website). https[colon]//docs.google.com/document/u/1/d/e/2PACX-1vTG3tRPhVjPfcwmYNudft9VoRTw8u9LZAfWMfneRiM8Tv2l2jAY9tJc8zFgA1ESFufSd132Pqa9oBWz/pub
 
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Not to digress too far, but here's an example of how the mental health establishment doesn't like to admit its mistakes.
https://news.yahoo.com/man-arrested-mistaken-identity-case-144636493.html

Once they decided he was crazy, there was nothing he could do prove he wasn't, even though it would have been simple to just run his fingerprints. I imagine that part of the resistance to ending Britney's conservatorship is the likelihood that the people who imposed it, extended it and benefited from it will be held legally accountable.


Good parallel as to how easy it can be to lose your rights, civil liberties, forced to be medicated, and wrongfully incarcerated.

The more the wrongfully arrested/prosecuted/ & incarcerated man spoke the truth, the worse off he became.

“Yet, the more Mr. Spriestersbach vocalized his innocence by asserting that he is not Mr. Castleberry, the more he was declared delusional and psychotic by the H.S.H. staff and doctors and heavily medicated,” the petition said. “It was understandable that Mr. Spriestersbach was in an agitated state when he was being wrongfully incarcerated for Mr. Castleberry’s crime and despite his continual denial of being Mr. Castleberry and providing all of his relevant identification and places where he was located during Mr. Castleberry’s court appearances, no one would believe him or take any meaningful steps to verify his identity and determine that what Mr. Spriestersbach was telling the truth – he was not Mr. Castleberry.”

No one believed him — not even his various public defenders — until a hospital psychiatrist finally listened. [1]​

He spent almost three years locked up in a state hospital, and was forced to take psychiatric drugs.

After it was finally found out he was telling the truth, the Hawaii officials secretly held a meeting–without him present–then released him.

A secret meeting was held with all of the parties, except Mr. Spriestersbach, present. There is no court record of this meeting or no public court record of this meeting. No entry or order reflects this miscarriage of justice that occurred or a finding that Mr. Spriestersbach is not Thomas Castleberry,” the court document said.

His lawyers said officials didn’t think anyone would believe Spriestersbach or no one would care about the homeless man who fell asleep waiting for food, only to wake up to a living nightmare. [2]​

The Hawaii Innocence Project criticized the police, state public defender’s office, state attorney general and the state hospital, stating that all parties “share in the blame for this gross miscarriage of justice”. [3]​

No public record. No apologies.

The Associated Press article says he refuses to leave his sister's 10-acre property, because,

“He’s so afraid that they’re going to take him again,” Griffith said. [4]​

A number of people and agencies of power and authority failed to do their due diligence. Broken systems and people who suck at their jobs harmed an innocent man, and tried to hide their crimes.

Sources

[1] [2] [4] Kelleher, Jennifer Sinco. (03 Aug 2021). Mistaken identity lands man in Hawaii mental hospital. The Associated Press. Retrieved from https[colon]//apnews[dot]com/article/hawaii-10ef5663e67a8fa01636763cd0fd025d

[3] Yang, Maya. (04 Aug 2021). Man arrested in mistaken identity case locked in Hawaii mental health hospital for two years. The Guardian. Retrieved from https[colon]//www.theguardian[dot]com/us-news/2021/aug/04/hawaii-man-mistaken-identity-case-mental-hospital-two-years
 
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After months of public pressure, James Spears agreed Thursday to eventually step down as his daughter’s conservator.

But wait - there's a catch:

“Mr. Spears is willing to step down when the time is right, but the transition needs to be orderly and include a resolution of matters pending before the Court,” James Spears’ legal team said in a court filing. “Mr. Spears intends to work with the Court and his daughter’s new attorney to prepare for an orderly transition to a new conservator.”
 
A step in the right direction. Hopefully some one will look into his role there to see if there's anything criminal going on. Something's not right about all this.
 
They should definitely get rid of her dad, and bring in someone from the outside. They will certainly care more for her. :rolleyes:

I support this, tbh. Lets see how this plays out for her, Cotton.
 
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A step in the right direction. Hopefully some one will look into his role there to see if there's anything criminal going on. Something's not right about all this.

I also have a feeling that something bad is going to be discovered.

My predictive intuition trends no better than chance, though, so hopefully this is another miss.
 
I also have a feeling that something bad is going to be discovered.

My predictive intuition trends no better than chance, though, so hopefully this is another miss.

If he lied in any court filings -- like claiming that she was suffering from dementia at age 24, as alleged -- or misappropriated her money, or forced her to perform against her will, I suspect the consequences could be severe.
 
They should definitely get rid of her dad, and bring in someone from the outside. They will certainly care more for her. :rolleyes:

I see you're unaware that abusive families exist. And yes, in a case like this a stranger could statistically be expected to do better than her father.
 
He is not remotely out of the picture. He has aspirationally stated he will quit at some unspecified future time. As things sit, nothing has changed.

They need to FORCE him out. End of story, with a full and thorough review of everything he's done as Conservator, because the dementia claim is clearly BS and the fiduciary should have a full audit as well.
 
He is not remotely out of the picture. He has aspirationally stated he will quit at some unspecified future time. As things sit, nothing has changed.

He's trying, cynically, to placate public opinion, but in the light of day it's virtually impossible to not him for the utter scumbag that he's been to his own daughter for years. Prison for him.
 
To some extent, it's not just drawing a conclusion about whether Ms. Spears is being wronged, but studying the system and wondering if there are sufficient safeguards in place. If the grievances she makes are true, if she's right about not needing all this, would there be a reliable way to stop it? If that's not an obvious yes, that's rather scary.


I'm trying to get the complete set of investigative articles, that date back more than 30 years, pertaining to the U.S. guardianship system. There are books, videos, movies, and websites that describe how broken, immoral, unethical, illegal, and corrupt the guardianship system is. The issues are well-researched and have been for some time. I'll post more about those decades-old investigative articles once I have them all, and compare & contrast them with what happened since those articles were first published, but for now, I write the following.

The abuse of power of authority is rampant.

Yes, it's scary.

Your civil rights, liberties, freedom, possessions, who you see, and your life—essentially EVERYTHING—can be 'legally' controlled, manipulated, and taken from you.

The broken systems that make abusive guardianships/conservatorships/power of attorney abuses are akin to organized criminal activity.

Depending on the abusive situation, a lot of what happens in abusive guardianships/conservatorships/power of attorney situations, could be considered violations of the RICO (Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations) Act.

That said, there is no federal law to prevent abusive guardianships/conservatorships, even though people are stripped of their civil liberties, rights, and due process of law.

That should indicate how high-up the legal system the problem goes, since abusive guardianships/conservatorships/power of attorney, have been going on for decades...and there is no federal law to protect the vulnerable, the abused.

The courts that control the abusive guardianships/conservatorships are similar in effect to "Star Chamber" abuses.

There's little to-no-accountability for the people who abuse their power of attorney, guardianship, or conservatorship.

Some of the abusers may be people of 'trusted' authority. Maybe a family member, friend, or a third party, or a corrupt:
  • attorney, including but not limited to an elder law attorney
  • financial advisor or owner of a wealth management firm
  • accountant
  • bank employees
  • court employee
  • care facility employee
  • clergy
  • doctor
  • funeral home employee
  • investigator
  • law enforcement officer
  • law office employees other than attorneys
  • notary public
  • psychiatrist
Yes, you should be scared.

-Ernie Marsh
Posted Friday, 20 August 2021, about 3:00 p.m. (EDT)
 
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The abuse of power of authority is rampant.
I repost one of the original links about a long-running conservator/guardian scam in Nevada that involved multiple judges and doctors and for which a guardian has been criminally charged.
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/10/09/how-the-elderly-lose-their-rights


RAMPANT.

So many people, of all backgrounds and professions, are involved in predatory and abusive conservatorships/guardianships.

To understand how rampant, it's imperative to look at all people, businesses, organizations, associations, that were and are, involved with the formation, implementation, execution, and continuation of abusive conservatorships and guardianships.

Movies, books, investigations, and commissions, have, for years, shown to some extent, how rampant abusive guardianships/conservatorships are. But nothing has been done to easily end the predatory and abusive climate.

"The Guardians," a 2019 movie, provides additional insight into the October 2, 2017, The New Yorker article, "How the Elderly Lose their Rights," by reporter Rachel Aviv, that you reposted.

In 2019, Billie Mintz's movie, "The Guardians," featured among others, how Rudy and Rennie North were taken from their home, put into an abusive guardianship coordinated by April Parks, among others. Rudy and Rennie North were lucky to have gotten out of the predatory and abuse guardianship, with help from their daughter, Julie Belshie, and others.

Reporter Rachel Aviv was featured in the March 11, 2020 release of Netflix's documentary, "Dirty Money: Guardians Inc." Aviv mentioned things she found investigating abusive guardianship, which include but not limited to, and I'll paraphrase:

  • similar patterns as to how people could lose their home and money
  • "clusters of services" and if someone like a vulnerable elderly person goes to one of those services, it's like a referral network, and in a more sinister way, Aviv said, she found that some guardians "actively recruit," sort of put out leads, so their 'network' (my word choice) would know who to call when they found an older person with lots of money
  • Court hearings are where people basically lose their civil rights. Hearings are brief, like 30 seconds; longest might be 10 minutes
  • Often the ward isn't present at the hearing, so there wouldn't be opposition to the guardian's suggestion that the person needed to be a ward of the court
  • There's no systemic attempt to understand how big guardianship is, how much money it controls, and the outcomes of individual guardianships
  • There's so little oversight it's difficult to discover a predatory guardian
  • Guardianship is a for-profit business
  • It's not unlikely there's some sort of clubby relationship with the guardians and the judges, or, with a family member of the guardians and the judges
"Dirty Money: Guardians Inc." has been removed from Netflix's library due to a lawsuit from attorney Nicholas Louisa. I'll write about this in some future post.

Abusive guardianships and conservatorships are likely to have rampant conflicts of interest. Look for lack of due process. Look for lack of transparency, traceability, and accountability.

The connections between people, agencies, companies, associations, etc, need to be made known. Follow the money, follow the connections.

Abusers are predatory; they can isolate, medicate, and control just about everything about anyone. Typically the abusers control everything up to—and after—when the ward or conservatee, dies.

Don't look for a remorseful abuser.

Guardianship and conservatorship enablers and abusers are rampant.

Posted by Ernie Marsh
Tuesday, 24 August 2021 about 2:01 p.m. (EDT)
 
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RAMPANT.

So many people, of all backgrounds and professions, are involved in predatory and abusive conservatorships/guardianships.

To understand how rampant, it's imperative to look at all people, businesses, organizations, associations, that were and are, involved with the formation, implementation, execution, and continuation of abusive conservatorships and guardianships.

Movies, books, investigations, and commissions, have, for years, shown to some extent, how rampant abusive guardianships/conservatorships are. But nothing has been done to easily end the predatory and abusive climate.

"The Guardians," a 2019 movie, provides additional insight into the October 2, 2017, The New Yorker article, "How the Elderly Lose their Rights," by reporter Rachel Aviv, that you reposted.

In 2019, Billie Mintz's movie, "The Guardians," featured among others, how Rudy and Rennie North were taken from their home, put into an abusive guardianship coordinated by April Parks, among others. Rudy and Rennie North were lucky to have gotten out of the predatory and abuse guardianship, with help from their daughter, Julie Belshie, and others.

Reporter Rachel Aviv was featured in the March 11, 2020 release of Netflix's documentary, "Dirty Money: Guardians Inc." Aviv mentioned things she found investigating abusive guardianship, which include but not limited to, and I'll paraphrase:

  • similar patterns as to how people could lose their home and money
  • "clusters of services" and if someone like a vulnerable elderly person goes to one of those services, it's like a referral network, and in a more sinister way, Aviv said, she found that some guardians "actively recruit," sort of put out leads, so their 'network' (my word choice) would know who to call when they found an older person with lots of money
  • Court hearings are where people basically lose their civil rights. Hearings are brief, like 30 seconds; longest might be 10 minutes
  • Often the ward isn't present at the hearing, so there wouldn't be opposition to the guardian's suggestion that the person needed to be a ward of the court
  • There's no systemic attempt to understand how big guardianship is, how much money it controls, and the outcomes of individual guardianships
  • There's so little oversight it's difficult to discover a predatory guardian
  • Guardianship is a for-profit business
  • It's not unlikely there's some sort of clubby relationship with the guardians and the judges, or, with a family member of the guardians and the judges
"Dirty Money: Guardians Inc." has been removed from Netflix's library due to a lawsuit from attorney Nicholas Louisa. I'll write about this in some future post.

Abusive guardianships and conservatorships are likely to have rampant conflicts of interest. Look for lack of due process. Look for lack of transparency, traceability, and accountability.

The connections between people, agencies, companies, associations, etc, need to be made known. Follow the money, follow the connections.

Abusers are predatory; they can isolate, medicate, and control just about everything about anyone. Typically the abusers control everything up to—and after—when the ward or conservatee, dies.

Don't look for a remorseful abuser.

Guardianship and conservatorship enablers and abusers are rampant.

Posted by Ernie Marsh
Tuesday, 24 August 2021 about 2:01 p.m. (EDT)

Jamie the exploiter Spears was in the news just today defending his exploitation of his daughter by stating "its all so much worse than the public knows", he can upchuck and die, she didnt deserve her life stolen by that stankstain. Special place in hell for him.
 

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