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The Roe Countdown

When will Roe v Wade be overturned

  • Before 31 December 2020

    Votes: 20 18.3%

  • Before 31 December 2022

    Votes: 27 24.8%

  • Before 31 December 2024

    Votes: 9 8.3%

  • SCOTUS will not pick a case up

    Votes: 16 14.7%

  • SCOTUS will pick it up and decline to overturn

    Votes: 37 33.9%
  • Total voters
    109
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Stupid poll. It has too much in the last option. They can take up some case and limit abortion. They can essentially overturn it as it's not a law, so replace it with some similar thing. They will not completely overturn it but cut down the weeks from 20 to some other number. Currently it's viable (24-28 weeks). They will also uphold all strict state laws that require an abortion clinic to be a surgical hospital. A state having no clinics will be fine.
 
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We know this debate isn’t really about abortion. Republicans, who have a supermajority in the statehouse, have already passed the most restrictive abortion ban in the country back in 2019. With upcoming elections next year, however, the anti-abortion zealots had to find a way to one-up each other on their anti-choice credentials.

They’ve opted to disingenuously expand the definition of “abortion” to include using IUDs, like the Mirena and ParaGard, which is not an abortion by any stretch of medical explanation.
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Emily's Cat said:
I really detest politicians.
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Gotta take the good with the bad. Sure, Republican freaks are going to make it extremely difficult to be a woman in this country, but they're also going to make things really ****** for trans people.

The price we pay for reactionary politics.
 
SuburbanTurkey said:
Gotta take the good with the bad. Sure, Republican freaks are going to make it extremely difficult to be a woman in this country, but they're also going to make things really ****** for trans people.

The price we pay for reactionary politics.
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Sure, sure, it's all "those evil people over there".

At the moment, both republicans and democrats are pretty much screwing over females.
 
From https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/09/us/abortion-law-regulations-texas.html:
Ordinarily, enforcement would be up to government officials, and if clinics wanted to challenge the law’s constitutionality, they would sue those officials in making their case. But the law in Texas prohibits officials from enforcing it. Instead, it takes the opposite approach, effectively deputizing ordinary citizens — including from outside Texas — to sue clinics and others who violate the law. It awards them at least $10,000 per illegal abortion if they are successful.
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It's not just the right-wingers that want to change abortion laws. In the UK there is an attack on their laws emanating from advocates for the 'differently abled'.


Heidi Carter is a 24-year-old woman with Down’s syndrome. She is currently taking the UK health secretary Sajid Javid to court in an effort to change the 1967 Abortion Act.

Carter and her team want to take away the option women currently have to abort a pregnancy after 24 weeks in cases of non-fatal disabilities. Her supporters are framing this as a battle for the rights of disabled people. This is misleading. It should be understood as an attempt to limit the choice and freedoms of 34 million women.
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https://www.spiked-online.com/2021/07/07/disabilities-activists-are-waging-war-on-womens-freedom/
 
Graham2001 said:
It's not just the right-wingers that want to change abortion laws. In the UK there is an attack on their laws emanating from advocates for the 'differently abled'.
https://www.spiked-online.com/2021/07/07/disabilities-activists-are-waging-war-on-womens-freedom/
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While I am generally for choice I do have to ask if there needs to be a line. At first, it was because there was a substantial risk to the health of the Mother or that the child was unlikely to survive. Now we're allowing abortion because the child might be disabled. Do we start allowing abortions because the child might need glasses by age 10, or won't be good at sports, or might have the wrong coloured eyes, or is the wrong gender? Is there a line that we draw when considering that the unborn child might have rights, or do we just throw open the doors and say go for it?
 
PhantomWolf said:
While I am generally for choice I do have to ask if there needs to be a line. At first, it was because there was a substantial risk to the health of the Mother or that the child was unlikely to survive. Now we're allowing abortion because the child might be disabled. Do we start allowing abortions because the child might need glasses by age 10, or won't be good at sports, or might have the wrong coloured eyes, or is the wrong gender? Is there a line that we draw when considering that the unborn child might have rights, or do we just throw open the doors and say go for it?
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I am not familiar with UK abortion laws. It sounds like they are a lot stricter than US laws?
 
Graham2001 said:
It's not just the right-wingers that want to change abortion laws. In the UK there is an attack on their laws emanating from advocates for the 'differently abled'.
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Same thing is happening here. Words fail me.

PhantomWolf said:
While I am generally for choice I do have to ask if there needs to be a line.
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There is a line already - it's the mother's choice.

She carries it for nine months, wrecking her body in the process, and putting her at risk of death and serious health outcomes - women still die giving birth in western countries - and then she will be breastfeeding for up to a couple of years, acting as an in-house cow for the little feeder, and is possibly going to have it as a millstone around her neck for the rest of her life.

If she doesn't want to burden herself with a disabled child as well as all the other negatives, more power to her, and Down Syndrome is not a small thing. Having that extra chromosome, is a real mental and physical deformity, and attempts to normalise it is PC taken to absurd levels.
 
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