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Doing the least to save your life...

Yes, that's the way things work. Boards like this use software that can't distinguish between people. It would also be an awful lot of work for the moderators to screen people individually, considering how many people are members here. Well, at least this will be my ninth mail :)
 
Anders W. Bonde said:
Hi Paul,

Welcome aboard!

(Here's a chance to add a post in order to reach the 'magic 15'):
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Hej Anders!

Rart at møde dig her. Jeg har lige afsluttet min sidste patientbehandling for 2005 og kan nu slappe lidt af her i Sorø.

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Just a little greeting for another Dane her. I'm American, but live in Denmark with my Danish wife.

Now this will be my tenth post. Getting closer to the goal! Soon I'll be able to "use both hands"!
 
... and 15th.... :D :D :D Maybe now I can create my profile, choose an avatar, start using links, etc. Whew! Nice to be alive again.
 
I'm not going to chime in with my opinions of the "woo", others have already done a splendid job.

i will say to FS, i wish you all the best in your treatment and recovery. you seem to have a handle on whats happening to you and you've got the smarts to make the right decisions.

as for the physiological "good feeling" that keeps you perky, i hope that the support from here helps.

if i ever get myself to a TAM, I'll see ya there.
 
Hmm....still can't create much of a profile or choose an avatar. Maybe the system takes time to approve me?
 
fowlsound said:
Are you for real?

Do you want to gamble your life on the placebo effect? It is not 100%. It's more like 20% (or somewhere around there. med folks, help me out with that #?) There is no PLACEBO that cures CANCER.
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Well, I wouldn't gamble on even 20% for a life-threatening condition. The much-hyped placebo effect is mainly observed in benign conditions, especially pain. Anything where expectation plays a part. FS, I found your OP deeply moving, but you are not going to move the minds of unreason, as exemplified repeatedly by the likes of `love'. You are doing all the right things, and you deserve to succeed.
 
Asolepius said:
Well, I wouldn't gamble on even 20% for a life-threatening condition. The much-hyped placebo effect is mainly observed in benign conditions, especially pain. Anything where expectation plays a part. FS, I found your OP deeply moving, but you are not going to move the minds of unreason, as exemplified repeatedly by the likes of `love'. You are doing all the right things, and you deserve to succeed.
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I agree 100% with everything you said.

Actually, I was hoping the paper wouldn't necessarily convert or change them, just get them to leave me the hell alone.
 
Splossy said:
I didn't say I would I said I might. Hard to say what I might do if I had a potentially terminal illness. I can’t confidently state that I wouldn’t.

The imaginative exercises might work in some sense – nobody can really say that developing a positive attitude etc cannot have any effect on one’s immune system or merely one’s ability to cope or something else not thought of just yet. Re: Homeopathy – this is probably the least likely thing I’d dtry but might be worth trying re: the placebo effect. It does appear to be quite a good placebo.

Given that terminal illness is your last shot I cannot rule out the possibility that I'd take the view that anything is worth trying as long as it doesn’t do any harm.
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No no no no NO!!!!!! Sorry, but sometimes I have to shout. Positive mental attitude has been tested and does not work in cancer. It may make people fell better about it, but they don't live any longer. Look at the guidance from NICE on palliative care.

And NO again - nobody is going to to do better than by focussing totally on what will do them some good. Any distraction does harm.
 
Placebo effect. Tell someone they are gonna die. They believe you. So they get soooo scared that they curl up in a ball, and stop eating and drinking. They await their doom.

What do they die of? Fear? No. Dehydration at their own hand.

Quite often placebo effects work because people believe the placebo is doing something. They unwittingly relax and stop focussing on the perceived problem (the reduced stress leads to pain relief or whatever). Or they stop worrying about it and the temporary problem clears up (swelling in joints due to temporary allergic reaction disappears).

Placebo effect can be good and bad as well (as written above).

Why won't it work on cancer? Or a broken leg? Or any real problem? Because it takes more than distraction or belief to fix it. A real physical prolonged problem needs real intervention.
 
Fowlsound, I admire you for your strength, courage, and kick-ass attitude.

You know that everyone here is in your corner pulling for you.

I can't make it to TAM this year, but I expect to see you there next year, and the first round is on me.

Cheers.
Larry
 
Damn.

Fowlsound for the next messiah!

I don't know what to say, I am deeply moved by your bravery, your willingness to share and your patience in putting up with Love. I don't know how you've been able to answer her.
 
Threads 179 to 191 have been moved to Abandon All Hope as it was deemed to be moving into a flamewar again. Please continue the derail in the appropriate thread here and any future similar posts. Please note, the ignore feature is available.
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