Cont: The Trump Presidency: Part 27

[Delphic Oracle]

*Rolls eyes*



Okay. What I said is exactly still correct.



That's the dumbest attempt at a "gotcha" I've seen in a while.

Some statements can be correct, but so devoid of context it is saying exactly nothing.

But also people suffering real effects of policies put in place might put the ideological struggle over cultural truth a bit down the priority stack.

 

[The Man]

That is quite so. But their petty gains will by nothing compared to a billion-plus dollar law suit from Dominion which will almost certainly follow. Who have proven they WILL go that hard.

Not sure if there is anything there for Dominion to sue over. Certainly the defamatory statements that are already being litigated but I don't recall the audit adding to that, yet.

This is stupidity up there with the likes of juggling running chainsaws while blindfolded and dead drunk. We all know who is going to get really seriously hurt out of this, and it isn't Husqvarna.

Right, nor Dominion. Who gets hurt and has standing to sue is the county who has now lost usability of expensive equipment due to mishandling.

 

[JoeMorgue]

Some statements can be correct, but so devoid of context it is saying exactly nothing.

But also people suffering real effects of policies put in place might put the ideological struggle over cultural truth a bit down the priority stack.

I said facts, not "cultural truths."

Facts. Those things that exist regardless of your opinion on them.

 

[Trebuchet]

One mentally-ill old man is killing our democracy one week at a time.

And only a handful of party members are trying to stop him.
The rest are too self-serving and/or frightened

No. Trump has a lot to do with it, but the R party was heading in this direction for quite a long time before he showed up. Louie Gohmert and Steve King were Trumpers before there was Trump.

 

[Armitage72]

No. Trump has a lot to do with it, but the R party was heading in this direction for quite a long time before he showed up. Louie Gohmert and Steve King were Trumpers before there was Trump.

This article was posted on the CNN site yesterday.

The essay described congressional extremists, their rejection of truth, a party turning into authoritarians or "an apocalyptic cult." It bore a striking headline:
"Let's just say it: The Republicans are the problem."

It didn't mention Marjorie Taylor Greene, the deadly January 6 insurrection or Donald Trump's Big Lie. In fact, the words "Donald Trump" did not appear at all.

Published in 2012, that Washington Post piece demonstrates more than the foresight of its political scientist authors, Tom Mann of the center-left Brookings Institution and Norm Ornstein of the center-right American Enterprise Institute. It shows the disease within the Republican Party had spread long before Trump metastasized it.

 

[W.D.Clinger]

This reminded me of John F Kennedy's quip about Jefferson.

It really is the most cack-handed group of bumblers that could have been assembled.

It's the most cack-handed group of bumblers to have been assembled in the United States since the last day Donald Trump dined alone at the White House.

 

[Crossbow]

That stupid, idiotic, lying, criminal, POS Trump had this weird idea that vast numbers of people would continue to hang on his every word that he spoke after getting kicked out office as when he was in office.

However, his own data shows that Trump is quickly fading away from the public eye.

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/donald-trump-blog-bad-traffic-140655855.html

Donald Trump's Much-Touted Blog Pretty Much A Flop As Interest Fades: Report

Former President Donald Trump’s ballyhooed new debut on the internet is turning out to be a flop, according to data.

...

Trump’s blog garnered 159,000 total social media interactions its first day, the Post reported. The following day, interactions dropped to 30,000, and they haven’t passed 15,000 a day since, according to the Post’s review of data from online analytics firms.

Trump’s entire website, including his blog, online store and fundraising page, is attracting fewer visitors than the recipe site Delish, the Post pointed out, rubbing it in.

...

“He’s whistling in the wind,” Megan Squire, an Elon University computer science professor who studies right-wing online organizing, told the Post. “People just aren’t following him to his little desk platform, and we can see that in the numbers. He doesn’t have that same ability anymore to constantly put his content in people’s faces the way he did before.”

 

[Mumbles]

No. Trump has a lot to do with it, but the R party was heading in this direction for quite a long time before he showed up. Louie Gohmert and Steve King were Trumpers before there was Trump.

Hans von Sparkovsky, Kris Koback, Ken Blackwell, and J. Christian Adams are by far the larger figures in this disgusting endeavor - along with John Roberts in some respects. Toupee Fiasco is, as always, just the muppet that gets the crowd frothing.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

That stupid, idiotic, lying, criminal, POS Trump had this weird idea that vast numbers of people would continue to hang on his every word that he spoke after getting kicked out office as when he was in office.

However, his own data shows that Trump is quickly fading away from the public eye.

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/donald-trump-blog-bad-traffic-140655855.html

Donald Trump's Much-Touted Blog Pretty Much A Flop As Interest Fades: Report

This is why I don't understand the current batch of GOP legislators clinging to his coat tails. I understand idiots like Greene and Gaetz. They were born into office because they promoted CTs.

But I think McConnell is really being naive.

By the 2022 election we will see how much influence Dump still has.

 

[Andy_Ross]

This is why I don't understand the current batch of GOP legislators clinging to his coat tails. I understand idiots like Greene and Gaetz. They were born into office because they promoted CTs.

But I think McConnell is really being naive.

By the 2022 election we will see how much influence Dump still has.

Quite a lot if he has all their money.

 

[bruto]

This is why I don't understand the current batch of GOP legislators clinging to his coat tails. I understand idiots like Greene and Gaetz. They were born into office because they promoted CTs.

But I think McConnell is really being naive.

By the 2022 election we will see how much influence Dump still has.

I think McConnell is naive only if he is wrong about how readily people will forget what he said yesterday. He may be unfortunately wise in realizing that the people who keep him in office do not care about truth or consistency any more than he does. By the 2022 election, if T**** has lost his influence, McConnell will reveal that he was always actually working behind the scenes against him, and his loyal mob will chant "yeah yeah, we knew all along."

Mind you, I cling to the hope that it is naiveté but I fear that it isn't.

 

[Norman Alexander]

I vaguely recall there were a bunch of MAGAites who, when T**** lost the presidency, tried to justify the outcome as T**** being secretly against MAGA from the outset. They were prepared to toss even T**** out of the lifeboat if that made their fantasies align better.

 

[Trebuchet]

This article was posted on the CNN site yesterday.

Thanks for that. Do follow the link to the original WAPO link. They didn't even block my ad-blocker!
Trump is simply the visible result of where the R party has been heading for decades, starting with the Southern Strategy and tax hysteria. What make it even sadder is that Trump doesn't even believe this ****. He's just in it for himself.

 

[Segnosaur]

This is why I don't understand the current batch of GOP legislators clinging to his coat tails. I understand idiots like Greene and Gaetz. They were born into office because they promoted CTs.

I think the Virginia election might provide a template for what you might expect in future elections.

The Republicans nominated Glenn Youngkin to be their candidate for Gov. During the primaries, he wasn't the most pro-Trump candidate in the field, but he certainly had no problem talking about 'election integrity' as an attempt to appeal to the MAGAchud who think the election was stolen. But now that he has won the primary, he has tried to distance himself from Trump, and has admitted Biden won the election legitimately.

I suspect you will see the same thing in other elections... candidates trying to tie themselves to Trump in order to win primaries, then trying to distance themselves in the general election.

See: AP News

 

[Norman Alexander]

I think the Virginia election might provide a template for what you might expect in future elections.

The Republicans nominated Glenn Youngkin to be their candidate for Gov. During the primaries, he wasn't the most pro-Trump candidate in the field, but he certainly had no problem talking about 'election integrity' as an attempt to appeal to the MAGAchud who think the election was stolen. But now that he has won the primary, he has tried to distance himself from Trump, and has admitted Biden won the election legitimately.

I suspect you will see the same thing in other elections... candidates trying to tie themselves to Trump in order to win primaries, then trying to distance themselves in the general election.

See: AP News

Raises a legitimate question for voters: What do they REALLY believe in after all, if they change their minds so swiftly in a few days?

 

[quadraginta]

Raises a legitimate question for voters: What do they REALLY believe in after all, if they change their minds so swiftly in a few days?

For Trumpers and the modern Repugnican Party, they believe whatever the people they are told to believe by their Party approved media outlets has said most recently.

There is no past. There is no memory. It's all in the moment.

Life is much simpler that way. It doesn't require all that messy reading, learning, verifying sources, looking at (gasp) alternative viewpoints, or even worse, thinking for themselves.

Or even thinking at all, for that matter.

 

[Susheel]

...Life is much simpler that way. It doesn't require all that messy reading, learning, verifying sources, looking at (gasp) alternative viewpoints, or even worse, thinking for themselves.

Or even thinking at all, for that matter...

Same here with the saffron-clad Hindu fascists. I call it "outsourced thinking."

 

[Dragon]

Same here with the saffron-clad Hindu fascists. I call it "outsourced thinking."

I like that and will definitely steal it to use elsewhere

 

[The Don]

For Trumpers and the modern Repugnican Party, they believe whatever the people they are told to believe by their Party approved media outlets has said most recently.

There is no past. There is no memory. It's all in the moment.

Life is much simpler that way. It doesn't require all that messy reading, learning, verifying sources, looking at (gasp) alternative viewpoints, or even worse, thinking for themselves.

Or even thinking at all, for that matter.

IMO it's a common theme among all "fundamentalists" whether they're religious, political, legal or whatever - you cede responsibility for thinking to your leader.

 

[RolandRat]

Donald Trump writes on his blog:

"In a lengthy blog post in response to the news of the attorney general’s investigation, the former president wrote: “The Attorney General of New York literally campaigned on prosecuting Donald Trump even before she knew anything about me. She said that if elected, she would use her office to look into ‘every aspect’ of my real estate dealings.”

Mr Trump went on to say: “The Attorney General made each of these statements, not after having had an opportunity to actually look at the facts, but BEFORE she was even elected, BEFORE she had seen even a shred of evidence. This is something that happens in failed third-world countries, not the United States. If you can run for a prosecutor’s office pledging to take out your enemies and be elected to that job by partisan voters who wish to enact political retribution, then we are no longer a free constitutional democracy.”

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/trump-returns-manhattan-wake-york-213307404.html